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AR: Bill to Ban Sex Offenders from Museums

Rather than go see a movie, or hang out at home, today Kelly Gifford decided to take her son to a museum.

“It’s a great opportunity for my son to have a good time while he’s learning,” Gifford says.

She says she learned pretty quickly though that unlike a movie theater or her living room, museums and parks come with their fair share of distractions.

“They’re kids. They’re going to run around,” she says.

And perhaps nothing is scarier for a parent than the moment a child leaves their sight.

“You always want your kids in arm’s length. In a place like this where there is so much to see and do. It’s critical that this is a safe space for them,” she says.

That’s why state representative Kathy Swan suggests Missouri put about 500 ft. worth of distance between places like these and registered sex offenders. Full Article

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  1. New Person

    From the article:

    While the bill would likely not stop an unknown sex offender from walking into the added places, it would allow police to take action if the offenders were discovered there.

    As well as this:

    “A museum for the purpose of educating and entertaining children under the age of 18,” [Representative Kelly] Swan describes.

    So… a museum isn’t made for all people, just anyone under 18? Also, a museum is for educating and entertaining. Thus, registrants aren’t allowed to be educated or have any entertainment?

    So a registrant can be detained for doing non-criminal actions? Isn’t there a case law that already stated you can’t do anything to a registrant on a presumption of criminal activity when there is no criminal activity to be prompted?

    Oh hey… and now registrants are also banished from museums. Might as well as include forestry parks, national parks… oh why not extend this to Washington, DC. Ban registrants from seeing the Lincoln statue or MLK commemorative? Oh what about sports venues?

    So… once you’ve served your time, you still are a servant of the state b/c of the registry. Are you a free citizen? If so, then why are you compelled to do such service? All this is prohibited, but no one wants to associate registrants to involuntary servitude or slavery… well… b/c the SCOTUS categorized registrants as monsters as a whole – 80% recidivism rate.

    Such a defamation of character.

    • AJ

      I think the museum ban is solely for children’s museums, not every museum out there. Still unacceptable, but far less than the title of the post suggests. I like that rationale about kids tend to run away and around more at these places. Wait, because you cannot keep track of your kid and/or the kid won’t mind you, *I* cannot be present? Sounds like YOU’RE the danger to the child, not me! But let’s take the concept further. Kids also run around in neighborhoods. Buh-bye community living for RCs. Kids run around at grocery stores. Buh-bye food shopping for RCs. The point is: kids run around and such all the time. But let’s not deal with that, let’s blame the bogeyman.

      –AJ

      P.S. to PK: I’m with you about this country not being worth living in. And once my ma-in-law passes away, my wife and I plan to skedaddle…if I can get out with my Scarlet-lettered passport. (Though moving to PR would be fine with me.)

  2. Tired of this

    The bill’s author should be asked to cite statistics for why this is needed. But my guess is that it won’t be questioned and will pass unanimously, as anti-SO bills usually do.

    Another solution to a nonexistent problem.

    • PK

      After living outside of the US for the past 6 months this time around, and 4 months away last year, and 4 months the year prior to that, there is just absolutely no way I could Never Eever consider any kind of future in the United States. AGAIN!

      Besides James who still has strong sentiment for the “Good Old USA” who in THEIR right mind, would want to live like this? They are just non-stop with their restrictions.

      I would be TiredofThisToo- TiredOfThis

      • Nondescript

        Such sensationalism. House Bill 572 bans only a small handful of convictions from being present in a children’s museum. Endangering the welfare of a child is one of them ( they actually added a non- sex offense- bravo!) . Zoos aren’t mentioned either. I like the staged patrol car in hot pursuit at the end of the video. Nice touch.

      • NYLevel1

        Where do you live outside US?

  3. Timmr

    I can’t believe how stupid people are, they are going to arrest someone for wanting to see a mockup of the Pliestocene. Yeah, a museum is not the best place to learn of primitive culture, anyway. Why look at statues? The live troglodytes can be seen inhabiting today’s state capitol buildings. Go there and learn their superstitious ways.

  4. Chris

    This bill looks to be in MO not AR as the title states.

  5. Lake County

    There are many children’s museums around this country that no normal adult would want to go to without bringing a child with them. (It would be weird to see a single adult climbing aboard the fire engine, being in the coloring room, etc, etc…) I would not abject to any of these museums having a policy to not sell tickets to any single adults not with a child. An exception would be for fundraising events directed towards adults at the museum. But banning a registered citizen with a child is wrong. It only punishes their child. On the other hand, if a single adult did go into a children’s museum, I’m sure the staff would be watching that person carefully. I think common sense could be more useful than any new law.

    • Nondescript

      @Lake County

      “It would be weird to see a single adult climbing aboard the fire engine, being in the coloring room, etc, etc”

      Thank you for a great laugh. Just visualizing it is side splittingly funny. I personally wouldn’t even want to take my child to one of these germ breeding grounds with their interactive science exhibits and fake mock ups.
      A walk in nature would be far better for them.

    • OTimmr

      I don’t know where all these children’s museums are that don’t have something of legitimate interest to adults. The ones I have seen are in otherwise adult museums and are not basic playgrounds. I take for example the Ruben H Fleet science center in San Diego. There are exhibits that demonstrate basic science concepts of physics and are fun and educational for both children and adults. With the lack of basic science knowlege in America, it would be good if all adults learned basic concepts of physical truth. Most people here still don’t believe evolution or human contributed climate change are real or at least what principles of evidence go behind the concepts. At the Fleet Museum I remember seeing all ages enjoying exhibits with the kids. There is a good chance some of them are registrants. So what. Of the abductions that have happened in San Diego, they are mostly from parents. The two infamous stranger abductions/murders have not happened at museums, children’s or otherwise, nor even in public spaces where children gather, but one was in her home and the other two teenagers were alone on public easements away from other children.
      I am really dismayed when registrants themselves play into this lightening strike chance fear that a child is going to be abducted in a public space where children gather. Let the children be free to run around and learn and have fun doing it. Let them interact with adults of all kinds. They will develop critical, as opposed to fear based, minds that will realize later on when they are adults, we need spend to time and resources to educate and rehabilitate, more than segregate and incarcerate.

    • Harry

      About 2 weeks ago, I was attending a church service. A children group was preforming a skit during the main service. The teacher invited “grown-up kids”, referring to adults, to come and join the skit. No adult responded. The teacher named my friend, who is single male, had him come and join the kids, which, he did. Later, I ask him how did he feel being with all those kids? He said, “he felt kind of out of place”. I advise him do not it again and have a meeting with teacher and/or the pastor and discourage such request, again. As for me I stay very far from any interaction with children and parents with children.

  6. Lake County

    Wow, this is one of the shortest Bills I’ve ever seen. Since it’s so short, I’ll post it here.

    566.150. 1. Any person who has been found guilty of: Violating any of the provisions of this chapter or the provisions of section 568.020, incest; section 568.045, endangering the welfare of a child in the first degree; section 573.200, use of a child in a sexual performance; section 573.205, promoting a sexual performance by a child; section 573.023, sexual exploitation of a minor; section 573.025, promoting child pornography; or section 573.040, furnishing pornographic material to minors; or (2) Any offense in any other jurisdiction which, if committed in this state, would be a violation listed in this section; shall not knowingly be present in or loiter within five hundred feet of any real property comprising any public park with playground equipment [or], a public swimming pool, or any museum with the primary purpose of entertaining or educating children under eighteen years of age. The first violation of the provisions of this section is a class E felony. A second or subsequent violation of this section is a class D felony.

  7. Chris F

    So in effect, this has nothing to do with the registry.

    This lists particular crimes, and if ever in the past been found guilty of that crime anywhere in the United States, you are banned forever from being within 500 feet of these locations or you’ve committed a felony.

    Please tell me we have some SCOTUS ruling somewhere that addresses if it is ok or not to write laws preventing people from doing normally legal things just because they were once found guilty of a crime?

    • MacTimmr

      Hear is what I pulled up on Google for a definition of jeopardy used in law: “danger arising from being on trial for a criminal offense.”
      When they put you on trial for breaking a registry law, you are put in jeopardy.
      Why are you subject to these laws?
      Because of a previous conviction.
      What is it called when they put you in jeopardy because of a previous crime?
      A violation of the Fifth Amendment.
      Without the previous conviction, there would be no new crime and no new punishment.

      • New Person

        What if your conviction was dismissed? But you’re still subject to all this?

        Truly you are not on equal footing as a free person without a conviction.

  8. NYLevel1

    Another example of lousy parents not taking responsibility for their children and I didn’t know Deplorables visit museums

  9. kat

    Would love to see a registrant move next door to Rep. Swan!
    Maybe she’d realize they are just people, not the monsters she wants her constituents to think they are.

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