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FL: Florida bill would declare porn a public health crisis: causes ‘unhealthy brain development’

[lifesitenews.com]

FLORIDA, November 22, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – The state of Florida may declare pornography a public health crisis because of the myriad health and brain problems it causes.

Rep. Ross Spano, who represents House District 59, introduced a resolution acknowledging “pornography is creating a public health crisis and contributing to the hypersexualization of children and teens.”

If the resolution passes, the declaration that pornography is a public health crisis will mean the government “acknowledges the need for education, prevention, research, and policy change to protect the citizens of this state.”

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  1. Gralphr

    Can the nuts who rule florida explain how it messes up ones brain? How about explaining why other countries in Europe where nudity is more open have less rapes per capita than the us as well? I can believe its 2017 and we’re still on something so childish…….

    • 1984

      Under the guise of a health crisis, constitutional rights can go out the window. But they have to take into account ANY exposure that would cause “unhealthy brain development”. The list would be huge.

    • AlexO

      Nudity is not the same thing as hardcore pornography. In USA, the average age in which children start viewing hardcore porn is 10 and dropping. Access to the quantity and type of pornography we currently have, coupled with poor sex education and lack of opines to discuss actual sexual relationships, actually is messing with young generations understanding of what a healthy sexual relationship should be like. I’ve had several young guys in our rehab program explicitly state they used porn to learn about sex.

      Outside of that, impotency has been increasing among much younger men (as young as in their 20’s). This is not a physiological issue but a physiological one. In most cases, it was a result of over-stimulation with porn, resulting in not being able to become aroused during regular intercourse. Completely abstaining from pornography for 6+ month allowed most of these men to regain erections during regular intercourse without pornographic stimulation.

      Of course just like with drugs, alcohol, and anything else we humans can become addicted to, it’s not 100% true across the board. But pornography has in fact negatively effected youth of today (and adults). Though I have no idea if it’s at the public health crises level as I don’t know what the criteria is for something like that.

  2. It doesn’t work

    The politicians and police department won’t be curbing their usage of pornography no matter the law, you can bet on that.

  3. Lake County

    I can’t believe I just opened that nutty religious website on my computer with the ignorant reader comments. I feel so dirty now.

  4. David Kennerly, Forgive me for laughing

    “…myriad health and brain problems it causes.” That’s a scream! Yeah, let’s see those studies that demonstrate health and “brain” problems, shall we? And then there’s this gem: “pornography is creating a public health crisis and contributing to the hypersexualization of children and teens.” Always a crowd-pleaser, that. No science, all religion.

    • AJ

      Right, because there’s nothing on “regular” TV, in magazines, or elsewhere that is hypersexualizing children and teens. Heaven forbid we actually look at our society and culture as a whole. Let’s just blame porn!

    • AlexO

      Here’s an article that talks about it. For adults it can result in erectile dysfunction. For kids (porn viewing in US starts at 10 and the age is dropping), it can result in unhealthy sexual relationships down the road. Many kids use pornography as a teaching tool and later have relationship issues as a result. As with any issue, it’ll never effect 100% of the population, so what may be true for you won’t be for someone else and vise versa.

      I know I personally struggle with general porn addiction.

      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317117.php

  5. Stephen

    Porn is a billion Dollar Industry.

  6. Bill

    Its a stepping stone to total control, Florida is the state that’s going to lead the charge.

  7. AJ

    UT did this last year, becoming the first state to do so. So now CP isn’t a crime, it’s a disease! How rude of them to make ill people be held up on web sites, often for life!

    • Nicholas Maietta

      Oh, that’s interesting. If they declare pornography addiction a disease in legal terms, then they are effectively criminalizing a disease and that to me smells of lawsuits and overturned convictions. Do they really want to go down that route? There will also be a lot of opposition by the ponography industry. California and Florida are the to largest states for producing legal pronography so it will be interesting to see how this turns out.

  8. Sunny

    If Florida wants to declare something a public health crisis, and a significant danger to the physical and psychological well-being of children, why not start with football? 99% of deceased pro football athletes had CTE (traumatic brain injury) and now there are known cases of CTE in living football players. No doubt K-12 and college football is causing brain injury in young football players and leading to CTE, which is associated with seemingly spontaneous violence and other health issues.

  9. Dennis

    I wish stupidity were painful.

    • Registry Rage

      It’s Floriduh after all, nuff said. They are experiencing a widespread epidemic of terminal idiocy there for actually believing you can catch a disease from static images.

      We need new appropriations for a “sight crime” unit!

      • AlexO

        Disease isn’t something that’s physical like a broken arm. That’s why drug and alcohol addiction is considered a disease. “A particular quality, habit, or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people.”

        Pornography can certainly fall into this category for some individuals. Just because it’s a static image doesn’t mean it has not effect on an individual. Our brains can react to sights, sounds, and smells the same away as physical stimulation.

        • AJ

          @AlexO:
          Exactly correct. A broken arm is an example of a “technical problem,” which is something with straightforward answers that (for the most part) doesn’t involve input or change from the person at all; an expert solves it. Most life/social issues are “adaptive problems,” which are things that *cannot* be solved merely by one’s expertise; it requires changes some sort of change in beliefs, lifestyle, etc., by the one/group suffering the problem. The mistake often made is in applying a technical solution to an adaptive problem. The result is short-term “success,” and then the solution fails and the problem returns. (www.sgaumc.org/files/files_library/technical_vs_adaptive_challenges.pdf)

    • AJ

      It is…but unfortunately only for everyone but the stupid. Ergo, “ignorance is bliss.”

  10. mike r

    ohhhh the chilledren though….omg the children….god save them from all the sinners……

  11. kat

    If pornography is treated as a public/national “health crisis”, then perhaps physicians will have to give it a DSM-V diagnosis, which would mean it’s a verifiable and treatable mental health illness, which should mean hospitalization rather than incarceration. End of Registry.? Hmmmm….maybe this could work to our advantage.

    • TS

      @Kat

      For that to happen, which I believe is really good idea in what you’re saying, it could be classified as an addiction. It can readily fall underneath a possible sex addiction in coping with something else. There is a lot of information out there already on it and the way it chemically alters the brain when the addiction is fed.

      Put it on the same plane as the opioid addiction problems that our nation is currently having and has been receiving a national attention then that idea might get some traction.

      Like your thinking on that…

  12. stephen

    Alcohol addiction is a disease, but that won’t stop you from getting a DUi.

  13. David Kennerly, Forgive me for laughing

    “Your Brain on Porn – It’s NOT Addictive. What neurological research ACTUALLY shows about the people who use porn.”

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive

    • TS

      @David Kennerly, Forgive me for laughing

      Wait?! Isn’t Psychology Today the same news rag that brought about “frightening and high” in 1986 to the world and to Justice Kennedy (& SCOTUS) later when he found out about it??? Since then it has been slowly unraveling…

      I think (hope) you are using this article sarcastically…especially in this forum…it could appear so given the lashing the article author and topic took in the comments.

      • David Kennerly, Addicted to Love

        Fair enough TS & AlexO; Psychology Today is often trashy, although the 80% recidivism rate was by Longo and not David Ley. However, they have managed to get some things right. Even so, here are some more scholarly works about alleged “sexual addiction” and/or pornographic sexual dysfunction. “The myth of sexual compulsivity” by Martin P. Levine Ph.D. & Richard R. Troiden Ph.D. http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224498809551467 _______ the BOOK by Ley: The Myth of Sex Addiction by David J. Ley PhD. https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-forthcoming-Ethical-Responsible-Pleasure/dp/1442213051 _____ Then there is this from Sage Pub, our leading sex offender treatment publishing house of record (this tends to discredit them in my eyes, btw but undoubtedly some of their work is legitimate): “The Framing of Frequent Sexual Behavior and/or Pornography Viewing as Addiction: Some Concerns for Social Work” by D J Williams. An excerpt: “The application of an addiction framework to frequent sexual behavior and/or pornography viewing has increased significantly in recent years, particularly across North America. Herein, I refer to a multidisciplinary literature to explore critically whether or not application of an addiction framework is warranted.

        Findings
        The sex/pornography addiction model can be criticized based on the lack of quality scientific evidence to support it, sociocultural biases in interpreting sexual behavior, and assumptions involving diagnostic criteria.

        Applications
        While social workers should strive to help clients who desire to resolve various personal issues involving sexuality, workers should keep in mind that human sexuality is diverse and avoid using the addiction label.”

        From Marty Klein: ““Sexual Addiction” Is NOT A Useful Diagnosis–And Why It Matters
        by Dr. Marty Klein” http://www.martyklein.com/why-sexual-addiction-is-not-a-useful-diagnosis-and-why-it-matters

        Here’s a piece making the connection between porn/sex addiction and Christian fundamentalism: “Does Religion Cause Sex Addiction?”
        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/foxyfolklorist/does-religion-cause-sex-addiction

        I don’t think that it is any coincidence that the market for scaring people about porn and sexuality, in general and porn addiction/sex addiction, specifically, is being spearheaded by biblical literalists. That’s always been the case. Also this: “Religious People More Likely to Think They’re Addicted to Porn” from LiveScience https://www.livescience.com/43362-religious-perceived-porn-addiction.html

        And this from Susie Bright: “http://susiebright.blogs.com/susie_brights_journal_/2008/08/sex-addiction-the-big-con.html ___________

        My own thoughts on this are: 1. There’s a reason why personal anecdotes make for bad theory. Popular and fervently-held beliefs have a way of crumbling when subjected to scientific rigor. Those beliefs suffer from a total lack of objectivity and nonreproducibility. They’re the products of acculturation and mythology. 2. In reading some of the religiously-inflected work on “sex addition/pornography addiction” I have found that a common refrain is that porn “desensitizes” the user and makes them dissatisfied with sex with another person. I would suggest that such relative dissatisfaction has more to do with not being attracted to the person they find they are having sex with. This is especially true with long-term relationships, such as marriage, and why traditional marriage advocates, i.e. the religious, are so quick to offer remedies that they see as sanctifying and strengthening marriage and maintaining monogamy. This is a problem that is much more fundamental than simply preferring porn to someone you’re not terribly attracted to. 3. I don’t think that it is impossible at all that availability to porn might offer a welcome alternative to dissatisfying and unstimulating sexual relationships and, as such, could be perceived as being an “addiction.” It’s easy to understand how one might prefer having sex “in one’s head” while viewing porn to having sex with someone who is sexually unappealing. I would simply argue that it is better than having “bad” and unhappy sex but that doesn’t mean that it’s “an addiction,” instead, it is a satisfying means of meeting one’s own biological and psychological needs. That’s not something to be ashamed of or in need of correction.

        • TS

          David Kennerly, Addicted to Love (a Robert Palmer song by the way)

          I wasn’t concerned with the author or topic as I was the source news rag and their publishing history (to the detriment of RC’s lives). Yes, at times they are on and other times they are off, much like the rest of the media.

          Be that as it may, keep bringing the info here, it’s informative and thought provoking, even if only internally and not shared with others.

          • David Kennerly, Addicted to Love

            Great, glad you liked it and that you and others introduced the topic as it is well worth ‘thinking on.’ To some extent, I’ve taken my own general, and not so coherent, impressions quite a bit further tonight and realized that there is both rhetorical and cultural issues that are necessary to grapple with (and to carefully define) regardless of whether they think such addiction is real. I also, in thinking it through, realized that the “sex/porno addiction” models are viewed from within different cultural frameworks and rely very much upon the particular system of values which the individual brings to the topic. Here’s an insightful phrase that speaks to those problems: “sociocultural biases in interpreting sexual behavior.”

            And yes, Psychology Today’s publishing of the work of Robert Longo was a terrible disaster for us having been invidiously persuasive of, no less than the Supreme Court.

    • AlexO

      I’m pretty sure Psychology Today (the linked article) is the same Psychology Today that created the 80% figure that SCOTUS was so happy to grab and use against us. Pardon me if I don’t jump at their 53-person study that claims porn isn’t addictive when I know I’ve personally struggled with porn addiction and still do.

      There have also seen other studies that have shown correlation with pornography and increased erectile dysfunction among younger group of men. Physically, there was no reason why the men should’ve been suffering from ED like older men have. For many of them it was psychological. They couldn’t get aroused with their real life partners and instead required hours of porn viewing. When they completely abstained from porn for 6+ months, their ED lessened or disappeared entirely and they were able to have normal sex with their partners.

      I’m not advocating for porn to be any more illegal than smoking or drinking, but people need to be more aware of potential negative impacts of over consumption and recognize when they themselves may become addicted to it. Just like not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, not everyone who views pornography is an addict. But when you’re viewing it 8+ hours a day and lose sleep because you’re just one click away from getting off, you have a problem.

      • David Kennerly, Addicted to Love

        “But when you’re viewing it 8+ hours a day and lose sleep because you’re just one click away from getting off, you have a problem.” Yeah, I can almost agree with that. At least, if it gets in the way of necessary functioning then it is, defacto, a “problem.” For those who are independently wealthy or retired, etc. it might not be a problem if they don’t perceive it to be a problem. Still, I’m very reluctant to use the term “addiction” and I know a lot of people in the field of human sexuality are, too. As mentioned in my other post just now I think that there is a bigger problem frequently at play here and that is not being sufficiently attracted to whoever you are expecting to, or EXPECTED TO, have sex with. And it’s not usually a problem with easy solutions, either, so I am very much on-guard against, what I see as, “moralistic” approbations against the “onanist” who has managed to find a level of sexual satisfaction not available to them through actual partners and I’m afraid that that moralizing is very much in evidence when delivered by those with a religious agenda.

        • AlexO

          I personally have no moral or religious issues with pornography in general (I’m agnostic). I just know that for me personally, it was and remains a problem that I have to be on guard about. Some people can’t have just one drink and I can’t view just one picture or video. I get drawn in and keep clicking away, forcing down my climax because I’m searching for something that will really give me that big pop. I’ve had this problem for nearly 20 years now, just about since I was 18 and first “discovered” pornography on the internet. I’ve had several very sexually active relationships, but still hit the net for porn for way too extensive sessions.

          As I said before, I don’t wish to limit or erase internet pornography. I just wish it wouldn’t be dismissed as a non-issue for people who seem to genuinely struggle with keeping it under control. I also wish we were more open about sex in general so that parents wouldn’t feel so uncomfortable speaking to their children about it and even petition to block sex ed in schools, leaving kids to learn about it from porn (if your 10-year-old if watching porn but you’re unwilling to speak to them about what actual sexual relationship is like and their school won’t even teach the basics, the kid is going to have a very warped view of what sex is like).

      • Michael

        I think it boils down to addictive personalities, or depending on the school of thought, what some may call extreme personality traits.

        ….

  14. Tim L

    It is well established by peer reviewed correction studies that in solitary confinement prisoners do engage in self stimulation to suppress boredom. They named these behaviors, Satiation. These behaviors include nasal and anal digging, masturbation, scratching obsessively, cutting(skin) and other physical abuses. Human Isolation itself is incongruent with society by definition. As the people have fractionalized isolation has increased especially among men.

    Most of the porn produced today is nonprofessional. Sure the pros do make lots of porn, but the internet has seen many women become very rich indeed without them. These women are fearlessly independent! So we have a wide continuum, as example:

    Woman 1: Please admire my nakedness full time!
    V
    Women 2: Please don’t even think of my nakedness ever!

    We all know which woman is more popular with men! This is despite its illegality OR amorality. Prostitution persists despite every attempt to squash it out socially by both government and private efforts. I have no reason to believe the new Human trafficking agenda is the same program in a “new” dress.

    So pornography is less harmful than say violent video games, which many of our youth engage in. From my observations this is a real problem

    • David Kennerly

      “So pornography is less harmful than say violent video games, which many of our youth engage in. From my observations this is a real problem.” This is all very contentious, isn’t it? From my point-of-view it comes down to a question of individual liberty and freedom of conscience: we all get to decide how we, ourselves, manage our lives or how we should be able to.

      • Michael

        Isn’t it the Rightist that complains about the nanny state who then, hypocritically, introduces legislation that at some point, creates a new nanny? Shouldn’t parents be the be parenting their kids?

        ….

    • TS

      Video games were to be labeled for violent content by Congressional members (Proposed “Violence in Video Games Labeling Act” Centered Around Logical Fallacy https://www.themarysue.com/violence-in-video-games-labeling/) had the law made its way through as a “Bill on Capital Hill”. Music is being labeled with Parental Advisories for content because of music that Tipper did not like back in the day while TV programs have labels at the beginning of each show with grades much like movies have had for decades.

      Should these not be folded into the thinking of the harm that could be had and the epidemic problems spanning from this formats? Rock n Roll was once the scourge of the world, TV was not far behind with its programming and now video games are possibly there too?

      Florida ought to worry about the rates of skin cancer due to lack of sunscreen or being in the sun too much.

  15. TS

    The Science Behind Pornography (according to a Harvard Scientist)

    http://www.purityispossible.com/the-science-behind-pornography/

    • David Kennerly, Haven't Gun, Can't Travel

      The clue is in the name of the website, “purityispossible.com” Please read this piece from sex researcher Marty Klein: http://www.martyklein.com/why-sexual-addiction-is-not-a-useful-diagnosis-and-why-it-matters/

      • TS

        Has Hollywood and NYC celebrity elite seen this article? It takes away their theories.

      • David Kennerly, Haven't Gun, Can't Travel

        “Addictionologists have cynically misled the public into thinking that “sexual addiction” is a concept respected and used by sex therapists and educators. Even a brief look at our literature, conferences, and popular writing shows how rarely this is true. But addictionologists don’t care about sexual truth or expertise–only about addiction. The sexual addiction movement is not harmless. These people are missionaries who want to put everyone in the missionary position.” – Marty Klein

    • David Kennerly, Haven't Gun, Can't Travel

      And a recent piece offering some (informed) constructive criticism of porn from Marty Klein:
      “Another WRAP Week of Porn Disinformation” ___ http://www.martyklein.com/another-wrap-week-porn-disinformation

  16. David Kennerly, Haven't Gun, Can't Travel

    To Who Cares: My “Haven’t Gun, Can’t Travel” is derived from a now ancient t.v. western series entitled: “Have Gun, Will Travel.” Perhaps it should be “Have Gun, WON’T Travel” but that suggests an unwillingness to travel and doesn’t quite convey a sense of repression.

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