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FL: With more sex offenders, probation officers want more money

With an increase in some of the state’s most dangerous sex offenders living outside of prisons and on probation, some of the state officers assigned to watch them have asked the Legislature for a raise to keep the most experienced on board. Full Article

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  1. Gralphr

    My question is just when are these people no longer considered dangerous. Are they telling everyone a guy whos been out 10 to 20 years crime free is still somehow dangerous or a predator? Land of the free…..yeah right…….

  2. It doesn’t work

    Are they implying that 20 years ago their weren’t as many people convicted of sex crimes out in the community? And today’s “Registered sex offenders” are more dangerous? Hahahahahahahaha.

  3. Mike S

    While I understand that I am bias on this subject, I have always found probation to be a bit of a useless agency. I think the fundamental idea of being arrested and being put on some sort of intermediary punishment makes a bunch of sense. The court tells you that you are now under their thumb and they are giving you another chance, don’t eff up in the next xx years or you will be doing some real time, state time. The problem is that the position of Probation Officer was invented and everything went downhill from there.

    Anyone who has spent anytime in a county jail knows that the high majority of the people are sitting waiting for a violation hearing or on a petty drug offense. In a block with 46 residences, I took a non-scientific poll and 38 were in for Probation/parole violation.

    32 – Technical (21 hot urine)
    6 – New Crimes
    6 – New crimes waiting on bail, or remanded (which means no money for bail) and two transfers waiting to go “upstate”
    2 – were serving 30 – 60 day sentences (dui and B&E)

    With lifetime probation being a “new thing” and private prisons (mostly at the county level) spouting up all over, I can assure you that the position of PO and the expansion of local private prisons is going to explode. And this is completely artificially created by fear mongering elected officials that are simply looking for the lowest hanging fruit . Just my opinion, as a non-volunteered member, of the Lowest Hanging Fruit

    • Paul 2

      Right on. I think a way to effect this is by getting the real info and stats to honest reporters to publish news stories on the cost of this so the political side can be put in its place, then the judges should respond like they are now to the reality of the reg laws, legislature will be the last to fall in line if everyone in their area found and honest reporter and presented this kind of info to them it could start to make a difference. If you think about it it is how the politicians move their agenda with but they use false information.

  4. Bill

    Make them take a pay cut and see if there wonderful laws on protecting children is worth going hungry.

  5. Ron

    I remember my probation officer. She was really incompetent. I can remember the judge giving me permission to do something, and then she yelled at me for 20 minutes because she said I had violated my probation. I am not sure my probation officer though she was a boot camp drill Sargent.

    • lovewillprevail

      Ron, you and I must have had the same po, lol…, mine was dumb and made arguements that made no logical sense, she usually yelled at me to leave her office because I would question her logic and it frustrated her when she had no logic behind anything; and because I would question why I can’t do something that the judge did not prohibit but she or my sex treatment provider were prohibiting.

      And on top of that, I had evidence the probation officer and the sex treatment provider both committed a multiple federal and state felonies against me (according to my attorney) but I let it go as I was afraid of retaliation since I was on deferred adjudication and my probation could be revoked at any time for any reason, even if I did everything I was told to do. And in fact, the probation office did have the DA office file bogus charges against me after they manufactured probation violations. But they did admit this to the judge before having a hearing to revoke my probation so they failed to put me away as they told me they would try to do, even in front of other people. They were not happy the judge did not put me in prison, even though I had no victim. And they were not happy that I then picked my own sex treatment provider and the judge approved.

      I did accidentally see later, in writing, that the goal of the sex treatment provider and probation department was not rehabilitation, but to exercise complete control over the people in their control to the point that the people will rely upon the sex treatment provider and probation officer to guide their lives and make all decisions for them. I saw this in writing from the probation dept. sitting on the desk of my county contracted sex treatment provider who normally did what probation dept told them to do. For example, the probation dept told two sex treatment provider to kick me out of group so that probation dept could file paperwork to have my probation revoked. Both county contracted sex treatment providers then kicked me out of group. I protected myself by passing polygraphs that I was truthful and that the reasons I were kicked out of groups were false and made up by the treatment providers.

      My point is, it is all a game, and has nothing to do with rehabilitation. And it is about putting as many of us in prison when the judge does not put one in prison.

  6. AJ

    I wonder where they got their data. According to BJS, there were 272,242 people on probation in FL as of 1/1/2007, not 166,966 (www.justicestudies.com/pubs/livelink8-1.pdf). (Per the link below, as of March 2016, only 136,385 were in community corrections.) More importantly, I didn’t see anything in the article saying it was specifically RCs causing POs to want more money. The quotes and statements are mish-mashed together, so it’s unclear if/when they’re talking about probationers in general and RCs in particular. From what I read it’s being underpaid vs. other DOC people that bothers them. Also, according to FL’s own statistics (http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/Quickfacts.html), RCs comprise only 4.9% of the supervised “clientele.” I guess the mere mention of a 30% bump in RCs in 10 years warrants the leap. Never mind the State’s draconian handling of RCs as a contributing factor to this increase.

  7. chris

    Hi Group,

    Quick story. I was arrested in 1991 and took a plea of 10 years of probation in 1993. Now this is the state of Texas. My first officer was Alice. I had married my high school sweetheart and we moved to Florida and Virginia due to the Navy. I moved out of state for 2 years 1994-1996. I reported to my officer once a month and sent in my 40 bucks that was the biggest concern make sure you send in your 40 bucks.
    I went through a divorce moved back to Texas and was assigned a new officer. This guy was the District Attorney’s brother and by the way still is. Registration did not begin until Sept 1st 1997. At that time I was reporting about every other month. This by far was the easiest thing I had to deal with. In 2002 was verbally let off not to report again. I had already paid off the entire probation payments. It was not until 2003 my ten years I was officially let off of paper. Now Texas is one tough state. Still today county probation officers do not make much over 40,000 and more restrictions than I was going through. but even at the time the officers were over worked and did not care to much at all…..

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