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Still using those words interchangeably: “pedophiles and other sexual predators”

Pedophiles, Sexual Predators, Sex Offenders- All should be considered to be in the same monolithic group.

Should a Child could be considered someone who is 16 or 17 years old?

Most of the Threads on this Blog make me angry, and I’m not sure how much good it does me to feel this way by continuing to read this garbage.

How about a Thread about what the plans are to challenge this IML?

In my experiences it’s people like this coward who has been going across seas to hurt children, not registrants. To promote lies when you know the truth is ABHORRENT!!! Think about this, who would go to this extent to push a lie, maybe an abuser in a race against time????
In court this is an easy win and hopefully it will put him in the spotlight for accusers to come forward. I say we march on Capital Hill with signs about IML and this closet monster Smith and see how many women or men we can bring out of the shadows. This lowly man is a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

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From the article:
•Since enactment, the United States has warned nearly 100 countries of more than 3,500 convicted pedophiles seeking to enter their countries. Nearly 2,000 convicted pedophiles were denied entry by the destination country.
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Notice, this is the federal government spreading this information to other countries. In the 2003 Smith v Doe decision, the justices said this information is not like a scarlett letter as people have to go search the information. With the IML, the federal government is broadcasting your information – a far cry from what the 2003 Smith v Doe decision stated.

Also note how the travel was restricted due to the IML. The registry wasn’t supposed to restrict any travel. It does now. They have just banished people. A subsection of where the recidivism rates are the 2nd lowest among all crimes. In California, it’s own State appointed sex offender management board’s own research has shown a recidivism rate of under 1% for the past two years, in 2015 it was 0.8% and in 2016 it was 0.6%.

Fear mongering is fear mongering. The SCOTUS has fallen into fear mongering before when it created internment camps for its US citizens who have Japanese heritage. How long will the SCOTUS perpetuate this lie on sex crimes? How long will the SCOTUS perpetuate that anyone convicted of a sex crime loses the full rights of an American citizen, thereby creating a second class citizen – Jim Crow laws anyone?

With all due respect to the terrible tragedy the Kankas experience, First, I doubt a registry would have prevented that tragedy. It was a total failure of the justice system and probation. The perpetrator had two previous offenses and was a problem throughout his entire time in the justice system. He was clearly a red flag and the justice department dropped the ball on him, now everyone who makes a poor choice behind their sexuality has to be punished for life and classified with this horrible person who murdered a child. This man was a psychopath, laws didn’t deter him, and how would a registry have prevented him form doing the horrible thing he did? The justice department should have been monitoring him more closely. Secondly, a unique qualifier stamped on the passport only notifies the general non-professionals who will react hysterically, just like the registry. I do agree that sex tourism is a serious issue, so when an ex-offender wishes to travel abroad, then first, there should be a reasonable suspicion of risk, most SO’s are not, but if they are, then a notice to the proper authorities from the US could be sent so as not attracting undo attention and hysteria. Clearly this is just more punishment and humiliation for SO’s. A real deterrent would be done between justice systems and governments not at the front desk of a travel agency.

Hi group,

Question can we or do we know if anyone can write to the Supreme Court addressing the constitution. I write my elected officials usually every week. Any thoughts?

Last week, I started to flood Chris smith with letters. I’m in Wisconsin.

Chris Smith is being delusional and cocky about how the IML is working. No one on the registry would be crazy and stupid enough to travel for the purpose of being involve in any criminal activity knowing full well that if they’re traveling for that purpose, they’re gonna get caught, because they know they’re being watched & scrutinized because they are on the criminal database. The real criminals that are involve in sex trafficking and tourism involving children are not registrants they are those who’re not on the criminal database that haven’t got caught. Somebody needs to really put Chris Smith in his place where he really needs to be and shut him up. His rhetorical statement is nothing but logical fallacy that is trying to scare everyone and trip foreign governments about all kinds of crap that never happened.

Before IML I traveled abroad to Hong Kong and Thailand twice. And not for sex tourism, trafficking or any other illicit activity. I met a woman online and yes she knew all about my past. I disclosed to her about my past and even gave her a link to the Governments public shaming site, there were no secrets. We had built a relationship online for over a year before I decided to go visit her. I went back again and had another nice visit with her and explored so many wonderful things there, ancient temples, parks, zoos etc… then on my third trip July 2016 to meet her parents, brothers, uncles, aunts etc. I was stopped as I got off the plane by 7 immigration officers in full Police Uniform with sidearms, in front of everyone. I felt so embarrassed and humiliated. The immigration officers were holding printouts of my registration page asking me “Is this you, Is this you,” while pointing at the paper they were holding. I felt like a fugitive and was so embarrassed as other passengers were walking past looking at me being led away with an officer on each arm. I had no idea the IML even existed!!!
I committed my offence in 1996, arrested in 1997, convicted in 1998, released from prison 2003. While incarcerated I never once got wrote up for any violation of the rules and after being released I completed 10 years of probation, passed every polygraph, urinalysis, completed every offence related treatment program ordered to attend either by the judge or probation officer. Never once committing any probation violation requiring me to be re-arrested and have even had my Civil Rights reinstated.
I completed my Bachelors of Science Degree in Information Security and have stable employment and have just tried to live a “NORMAL” life. Something that every human wants to do, live free, meet a partner, have children, raise them as best they can, grow old with that partner and just live. But do to a series of poor choices in my 20’s I live in continual fear. I’ve had employment offers with some good companies (Amazon 6 digit salary) be rescinded after I was offered the positions and passed all interviews, only because I am on the Governments public SHAMING Site. Heck the Criminal background check even came back clean but the background check says public sex offender registry. I’ve been with my current employer for 5 years now and am making that nice salary and yes I told my current employer all about my past and they did a background check on me and still offered me employment. The Company I work for is a large company with some international locations, Japan, Germany, China, Thailand, and several different states. But now I am in fear of loosing this wonderful career that I have worked so hard for because I can’t travel and other employees will find out about my past from 20 years ago.
There is one paragraph in this article that inparticularly bothers me.
“International Megan’s Law does not prevent the pedophiles from traveling. It empowers the destination countries with the knowledge we give parents in the U.S. — the names of people who have shown themselves to be a danger to children.”

REALLY!!!! DOES NOT PREVENT!!! REALLY!!!

I got to read the notice that was sent to Thailand. “Attenion! Mr. XXXXX XXXXXXXXXX was convicted of committing a sex offence against a minor in the United States Of America. It is our concern that he may be traveling to your country to commit similar offenses”.
Now what country is going to let any criminal or any type of offence, sex, burglary, robbery, assault.. ect…. with a notice that states “It is our concern that he may be traveling to your country to commit similar offenses.”
They let me have copies of everything except the NOTICE From the Department of Homeland Security.
I never knew IML or even AWA existed until this happened to me.. Just living a normal life trying to put the past behind me
Reading this article upset me so much…. Such BS!!!

Mike R, Chris Smith has just given you what you need to respond to your AG’s request for dismissal of your constitutional challenges that included references to IML and very similar to what I said in the November general area.

The California AG wants to claim it is not responsible and can’t be accountable for how IML affects you so you need to sue the feds and not California. Well, look at exactly what Chris Smith, author of IML, wrote:

“The identifier is only for those who have been found guilty of a sex crime involving a child, and who have also been deemed dangerous enough by their state to be listed on a public sex offender registry. When their state decides to remove their name from the state registry, the passport identifier will no longer be required.”

BINGO. It’s the state’s lack of Substantive Due Process that puts you on a list meant for those that are deemed currently dangerous enough to be listed on the public registry.

Here is what I wrote for comparison: ” California is the Gatekeeper of the California registry and they participate in sending that list to the Federal Government for the sole purpose of whatever actions or restrictions the Federal Government deems needed against someone so dangerous that they need to be on “the list”. If California didn’t violate your Substantive Due Process and Equal Protection rights by including you on that list, you would not be subjected to the Federal restrictions and restrictions by the other states and even cities.”

Saw this. Thought it was an interesting wrinkle on IML, kind of in reverse. What will Rep. Smith come up with to save dem travelling chilren? Force all US RSOs to leave the US?

http://www.dailybreeze.com/2017/12/05/teen-new-zealand-boy-intercepted-at-lax-while-on-way-to-meet-registered-sex-offender/

“Child predators thrive on secrecy”

Privacy is NOT “secrecy.” And privacy is not necessarily cover for criminal activity.

The memory and legacy of Megan is now forever tainted and defiled thanks to her parent’s misguided ambition to make her death “stand for something” along with Mr. Smith’s flawed preemptive ideology.

VERY interesting! How could they refuse him entry? Creepy.

Chris, AJ and anyone else please remember to post any relevant topics or issues on general for Dec as I do not have the time to check everywhere and a lot of times your post are no longer visible in the recent post section on the side. I am so swamped right now with the end of the semester it’s killing me. I am barely passing my calc. class mainly because I have been spending so much time on this case. I am trying to juggle all this and prioritize my case at the same time. Right now it’s frigging 4 am and I am still doing math and preparing a presentation I have to do tomorrow and it will be an all nighter. Please you guys post everything like this in the general and i promise I will get to it on Friday when I get a break….Thanks man…….Link me up in general Chris to Chris smith that you are talking about….

The ONLY good thing (since we lose with the Federal Passing of I’LL, w/o attention to detail), is that….according to this NOT the actual Bill. Congressman quotes statimg…ONCE REMOVED FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE STATE’S WEBSITE…THEN they will be removed from ILL for passports…REALLY? who’s going to do that??? How long will that take…30 days 6 months a year? Oh we have to wait for verificatikn from your State 1st in writing. Oh we have to have you reapply for a newer updated passport.
Oh that will be an additional renewal cost 60 please!

My father got his new passport yesterday (he’s not an RC). I looked at it and in the first page it says this:

“The Secretary of the United States of America hereby requests all whom it may concern to permit the citizen/national of the United States named herein to pass without delay or hindrance and in case of need to give all lawful aid and protection.”

This is written in English, French, Spanish. This is the endorsement our government gives us as citizens.

How is this consistent with:
“Attenion! Mr. XXXXX XXXXXXXXXX was convicted of committing a sex offence against a minor in the United States Of America. It is our concern that he may be traveling to your country to commit similar offenses”.

WTF.

Of course. It’s always the “family values” Rightist who pushes these type of laws.

What are the chances will find out Chris Smith is a fraud at some point in the future?

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It seems people want to honor the legacy and the tradegy of Megan Kanka with passing all kinds of sex offender registry laws that are extremely oppressive, because they think that these laws are going to keep children safe and that the kanka family and their supporters are just refusing to let their daughter go after the tragedy of the girl.

Chris Smith is being too cocky and delusional about how this law is working to protect children, because of the advance notifications that are taking effect in identifying and tracking registrants that he thinks are traveling to commit a crime based on their travel patterns and past conviction records.