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PA: Thousands of sex offenders no longer have to register. Should lawmakers put them back on a list for life?

About 150 people in Philadelphia are in state prison and 150 more are on probation or parole for neglecting to fill out address-change notifications or missing a required reporting date — all failures to comply with a sex-offender-registration law the state Supreme Court found unconstitutional last July.

Now, the fates of those people — along with as many as 17,000 others statewide who were required, under that law, to remain on a registry for decades or life — hinge in large part on the state legislature.

On Monday, the Senate Judiciary Committee, a key gatekeeper, unanimously advanced legislation already passed by the House to replace the invalidated law. Full Article

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  1. cool CA RC

    Nope!

    • Yahweh is my Creator and Yahusha is my Saviour

      hello im a wife of a convicted sex offender tier 3.and take mote he is a rape victim too with his nanny when his a child. But i like u to know my feeling first i met my American husband tru dating site but he told me bout his case and i accept knowing that its ok coz he already serve his time in prison i mean i thought its done. Coz here in the Philipines our law in my opinion is god fearing law. I mean if u convicted and u serve ur time society welcome u. Its not a big deal to us even u killed someone u former drug addict etc. As long as u not doing it second time . Maybe because our faith in God is much more than our fear. We believe that everyone can change for a better coz god thought us that. God thought us as long human is alive he have chance to change. But he teach us too to help other for a better . church here is for everyone even ur former criminal ur welcome we more welcome u coz we know ur in church coz u believe in God. I know many of u watch many disaster bout our country specially bout disastrous typhoon so many died. But u saw us smiling why coz we easily cope on it. If someone died in our family we believe that its a will of God. We belive that dying is not end of everything coz our soul is alive one day we will meet again.We believer too that in every crime satan using this to make someone believe that it should have revenge. Revenge on us is like this we never do like what u did in criminal like u did in convicted sex offender. God thought us if someone hurt u love him much coz loving him make him realize wht he did was wrong. And God thought us if theres something bothered us pray to him and he will do the rest. In general wht i mean dont trasure much our earthly body coz no matter how much money u have how famous u r ur body will return to dust. Think bout how u save ur soul.Coz as long as u gave important to ur body ur will disregard ur soul. sorry if my comment is too long i need to explain. anyway yes when i first met my husband i pray to God to give me foreigner husband. and he grated it. But i not realize i only marry him but not b with him coz law will not allow. so many family seperated coz of this law. this law violating human rights and family code law. And the bad and sad things bout this law many not dangerous case fall in one category i meant if u rapist u belong to crime of rape it u violate cyber crime u fall on it it u pee on public . belong to maybe public scandal i not familiar sorry. i mean dont make many not dangerous case in one case coz its unfair. Dont b righteous coz even u lawmaker is a sinner . I pray that when u make a law u close ur eyes first u put ur feet to the victim and the criminal i guess. co z as we know this law adams whatever so many children is a victim too especially when their parents belong to this case.Dis God teach u to revenge and give more punishment to others. God teach us to love and b merciful and forgiving. Coz as long as u punish God will punish ur soul too is criminal will make ur soul save they just make ur soul in hell by hating them. we u and me can save our soul from hell. I mean this law is against the law of God. so many sinner here on earth did u ask urself why God not make jesus to come here for second coming coz God still hoping that as long human is alive he will change why create law that make people suffer more why not create law that according to Gods law . yes i can divorce my husband but i know him more than ur law his god fearing man he believe in God. How could i divorce him coz his ex convcted criminal. how about if gOd will see mee like that too he will not forgive me coz im a sinner. God thought me if wht i did to others God will do it to me too, If i love others he love me more too. Dont want to hate my hubby coz his convicted sex offender . Even where not together i still b his wife. I will not hate him coz ur law want me too i will love him coz god wants me too.Its sad too that many country not accept convicted sex offender like philippines now coz USA want us to follow ur law. Praying Philiipines will disregard fallowing USA law coz its against Gods law. i know u will judge me that wht bout the victim. I believe that satan do things to cheat our believe even death. THis adams walsh law im sorry but im thinking i search that this law pursue coz of adams father. If he believe in God he will not make his som name on this kind of law coz this law make many people suffer dont u think his son will like the idea that his death will b the coz of many sufferring NO he will not like it coz he wants to b with his father in heaven. Adams father should think many times bout it. He cannot make his son alive again but he can make his soul to b with his son. Death is like a theft in the night we never know when it happen and how will it b.Even jesus died in not so good death and he have no sin to die. he died coz of our sin. Remember we will live i mean our earthly body for how many years only but our soul is forever. i mean if ur soul will go to hell its forever no dying so b careful dont entertain hate. try to pray and give eveything to God and he will give peace to everyone on us. Dont make ur soul in hell coz of someone sin coz that someone will not save ur soul only u. PRAY PRAY PRAy.Praying someday this law will change according to gods law. fear god dont fear criminal. dont assume things that not yet happen. but b possitive.Im still praying me and my husband will reunite soon.PEACE

      • Son of Liberty Child of Freedom

        I concur with your wise thoughts.

        Your priorities focused on Fixed Objective Morels from a Creator – The First and Only Cause. Lead you down a Righteous & Correct Path.

        You speak Truth as I sing a True Song

        As Yehovah Lives, so should we

        • Alec, Wondering What the Hubub is About

          Thank you both for your wise thoughts.

          One thing is certain – all this will not be changed by the minds that created it, minds intent on destruction, and pain, and punishment and suffering. If their goal is hate, then more hate cannot stop it… only love can do that.

          A bit of MLK in a quiet moment.

  2. cool CA RC

    . “The registration obligations are less onerous than the duty to file state income tax returns,” he said.
    Actually, no.
    They don’t post your state income online.

    • AlexO

      They’re technically not wrong that the act of registering annually is less onerous than filing taxes. It’s the burdens of being registered and the continues layering of more and more “regulations” that’s incredibly burdensome.

      • Paul 2 Anti Soy Boy PA

        Forcing someone to have contact with the police and subject themselves to incrimination is the worst they can charge you with lots of additional things also warrants false statements This has to violate miranda rights also.

    • Anon

      The IRS doesn’t come to my house or require me to come to theirs. They don’t require me to report my email addresses, cars, travel, phone number, educational institutions, jobs, hours worked, etc. under penalty of imprrisonment. I’d rather deal with a hundred Audits than SOR.

  3. steve

    “I was a sponsor of the Pennsylvania Megan’s Law … and I’d like to note that the original intent in all of this WAS TO APPLY IT TO THE SEXUALLY VIOLENT OFFENDER”

    Enough said…

    • kind of living

      @ Steve ,,,,, ,, Not enough said ! so you think its ok to register Citizens on an unconstitutional list ? when they went to court did their time and punishment ? what about all the other ways violent crimes happens ? what no registry for them as well ? we are targeted in prison by really sick bitch made puck ass CO’s and violent inmates rape and kill SO’s … that’s not enough ? , and if we are lucky enough to get out alive and we our paper . We still need to be targeted by a freaked out public morons ? so we can be murdered beat up. Our familys threatened family no matter where we go , BETTER GET RIGHT , people get out of prison everyday that hurt people before they went to prison and they were still killing ,beating , and raping SO’s among others , never showing any interest in changing , Yet alleged Sexually Violent Offenders need to be on a list ! myself I don’t know how SO’s make it out of prison with out getting a new case on the inside , but most walk that tight rope and try to better them selfs , (remembering family ) , I am not the only one that has over 30 years clean , there are many , PART OF ME WANTS TO SAY SORRY FOR YOUR HARD LUCK , my other side says HAhahahaha! because people that think as you needs to be ensnared in their own traps just as “Elmer Fudd” it is only fitting that the constitution not be for you because you don’t truly stand by it , so you don’t need it , hell who knows maybe north Korea will let you live there , because your part of the problem in this country , willing to sell everyones rights off as long as those rights are on skin off your snozzzz and your family’s ,

  4. TS

    Jerry “Sandusky would not have to register if we do not enact this legislation,” Sean McCormack, Dauphin County’s chief deputy district attorney, told the committee Monday. Jerry Sandusky is not getting out anytime soon and his sentence is essentially a life sentence for him since he was sentenced at 68 years old to 30-60 years in prison. Way to ring the fear bell, you dork, with an argument that does not stand up to football practice on a hot summer PA day or a cold winter day when the river is frozen and snow is flying.

    Sen. John C. Rafferty Jr., vice chairman of the committee, suggested that the height of the #MeToo movement was no time to roll back accountability: “I think you’re misreading the temperature of the public. The public is demanding more accountability of people accused of sexual misconduct.” Just accused and not convicted? There is a difference, Senator. Accused is already convicted in the court of public opinion, but convicted in a court of law has it’s set boundaries of applicable punishments. You’d expect the same for you or anyone else you knew or loved who was accused, regardless of the charge.

    (For those of you in PA and want to chime in via letter, comments, etc, use these rebuttals if you like on Mr. McCormack, Sen Rafferty, et al. No attribution needed)

  5. Michael

    “‘Jerry Sandusky would not have to register if we do not enact this legislation,’ Sean McCormack, Dauphin County’s chief deputy district attorney, told the committee Monday.”

    That is disingenuous. Jerry Sandusky will never get out of the hoosegow.

    “Sen. John C. Rafferty Jr., vice chairman of the committee, suggested that the height of the #MeToo movement was no time to roll back accountability: ‘I think you’re misreading the temperature of the public. The public is demanding more accountability of people accused of sexual misconduct.’”

    What a scumbag. I’ve never heard anyone — for any reason — mention sex offender registration. That is with the exception of ass hats like Sen. John C. Rafferty Jr.

    “’I was a sponsor of the Pennsylvania Megan’s Law … and I’d like to note that the original intent in all of this was to apply it to the sexually violent offenders,’ said Greenleaf, chairman of the Judiciary Committee.”

    Also disingenuous. Every crime requiring registration in Pennsylvania is considered a “sexually violent” offense.

    “According to Pennsylvania State Police acting Deputy Commissioner Maj. Scott Price, there are 17,544 people whom he expects to be relieved of registration requirements as a result of the Muniz decision; about 9,000 to 12,000 of those would be back on the registry under the draft legislation.”

    5544 to 8544 people. That is a big chunk of the registry. Based upon previous registration requirements, how many of that 9,000 to 12,000 would be nearly done with registration?

    “Jennifer Storm, the state victim advocate, said that registration notifications are crucial to victims’ piece of mind: ‘The overwhelming majority of people on this registry should be on there. We owe it to the crime victims. We owe them some sense of safety.’”

    Considering the fact that the overwhelming majority of offenders are immediate family members [68%], I’d say that we owe the populous in general the truth where sex offender registration registration is concerned.

    ….

    • TS

      @Michael

      Well said overall, but especially the parental part at the end (which is a large of part of those who are in positions of trust, e.g. family, neighbors, LE, clergy, educators, coaches, et al).

      Have to wonder what the financial hit is to the state when those who go off the registry stay off, those who overall would go off initially, and those who go back on after the bill is enacted (before it is challenged)?

      • Michael

        TS ~

        “Well said overall, but especially the parental part at the end (which is a large of part of those who are in positions of trust, e.g. family, neighbors, LE, clergy, educators, coaches, et al).”

        Facts is facts, and the facts show 90% of kids are abused by someone in their circle, making registries worthless because, as I always say, the threat comes from within. Making people think they need to peer through the blinds at the sex offender down the street will ensure they’ll miss little Suzie being molested by her older brother.

        “Have to wonder what the financial hit is to the state when those who go off the registry stay off, those who overall would go off initially, and those who go back on after the bill is enacted (before it is challenged)?”

        I don’t know how the cost changes regardless of how many are on the registry. One of the biggest expenses is in installing, implementing and maintaining the software for the registry. Treatment programs obviously add to the cost, but not everyone on the registry has had or is in treatment. Salaries and benefits, court and administration costs, and costs to counties and municipalities add to it as well. However, as long as there is a steady stream of people having to register, those costs will always there. SORNA was the way the federal government ensured more people stayed on the registry, and for longer periods of time. It’s a win-win for the companies and individuals profiting from registries. They get offenders, and the sheeple are none the wiser.

        ….

        • Tim DALawver

          I demanded trial for registration violation in 2011.
          Under oath the agent stated salary of 55K per yr.
          She stated working for WIS SOR SINCE 1998
          SO 19 X 55 K = 1,045,000 TOTAL SALARY PAID TO DATE.

          That’s over a million in career earnings, but how many kids did she acknowledge saving 0. Is she serving herself or the public?

  6. Guessit

    Im just wondering about when is psp going to start mailing out letters to those past 10 year deal? Also, when is Gov. Going to sign bill/s? When will psp take people off the registry as in no info found on a 10 past year offenders?

    • Brian

      @Guessit
      I am asking the same question myself, you can call psp ml section but they are very limited to what info they will or can no I will go with will tell you, I called a couple of weeks ago and was told that we don’t have to register anymore due to the supreme courts ruling, the lady was very nice though, she said if I dont get a letter come time for my next update to just go in and update anyway to avoid getting into trouble which if I do not get a letter I will be going to updat, my guess is if you haven’t gotten a letter once you go to update, I hope they let us off after we update because then they know we are due relief because the have to pull our file in order for us to update anyhow.

  7. Guessit

    @Brian, my update is in july. So, hopefully by then things looks a lot better. Thank you for the reply

    • Brian

      @Guessit
      Starting from February 5 I think there was 22,775 Registrants I could be wrong and today there are 21,655 people now, they removed 131 sense 8am this morning, Here is the link if you want to see psp progress, it goes up and dawn due to I believe people being added and removed every day. We may be off before your update God willing, if they stick to this pace that will be close to 3500 a month, I suck at math by the way.

      https://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/Reports/MegansStatReports?path=%2FMegans_Law%2FOffenderPublicRpt&ReportName=CountActiveOffenders

      • Paul 2 chikity check

        I have a screen shot on 1-30- 2018
        Total was 22,074. = -426 = 1.93% decrease
        4500 due to come off = 9.47 % of the 4500 has ben removed in 20 days.
        SVDC 58 = + 1
        SVP 2118 = – 16 = .75%
        TIER 1 – 4387 = – 115 = 2.62%
        TIER 2 – 3696 = – 57 = 1.54%
        TIER 3 – 11813 = – 240 = 2.03%
        TIER PEND – 2. = + 1

        They are removing around 20 people per day at their current rate on average. so saying there is 4000 left to remove that would be 200 more days at their current rate. so about 6.5 mo so you have about a 50/50 chance to be removed before bill kicks in if it is signed in the next week or so.

  8. Guessit

    Thank you for the reply guys. It just gives the mind at ease to know approx of things and not to go nuts on a bunch of other things.

    • Brian

      @Guessit
      Sorry my math was wrong, I thought it was more then it really was, Paul posted the correct numbers…

  9. Who Removes from list

    My husband has a court order to be removed. His registration is being reviewed by headquarters. But today he had to go update his quarterly under SORNA and they said we have no control over removing him. But you would of been arrested if you are required to still here, is what they told him. But he told them he didnt recieve a letter. They said it may have been lost in the mail. Yeah! My husband said be safe and go report. Illegal as it is, they will arrest you if you are still required until removal. Just be safe!

    • Paul 2 chikity check

      So let get this straight you have a court order for what to remand back to trial court for action, or that states PSP must removed and do not have to register?

    • JJ

      I did not receive a letter either, and I called the state police Megan’s Law division on Friday to find out what was going on. I was told that I would not receive one pending the results of the court case that would decide whether or not I would be removed, and I would receive a letter once it was decided. She told me that I did not have to register, but “You can if you want to just to be safe.” When I asked her directly if I would get in trouble if I did not register she told me no, however “but you can still go and register just to be safe.” So obviously I went to register… “just to be safe.”

      When I went to register the officer was very nice, and very supportive of the situation going on with people potentially being removed from the list. He did say however, and this is the point of this reply to you, that “I show here in the system that a letter was mailed on January 25th.” I know I never received a letter. I have the first date of my registration marked in my calendar as a “just in case,” and of course I was waiting on the letter so I could go register. I only called once I realized a letter was not coming.

      I find it interesting that your husband and I both had a situation where the letter was potentially “lost in the mail.” I guess that doesn’t really answer anything or provide any information. It’s just a “huh, isn’t that weird” kind of scenario.

  10. Jim

    i don’t care how simple the process is, if i am not liable under the law that was in place at the time of the crime i am not going to do ANYTHING someone asks me too, regardless of how SIMPLE it is.

    • Debo

      Jim right on bro these frs are running scared I’m holding firm also This lost letter thing is BS ML section tells you that you don’t need to reg you don’t reg I would hope the local PSP arrests me after that false arrest lawsuit in the bank. I will be calling the DA and ML section a few days before the 22nd to confirm if my review is finished and if they will prosecute me if I do not go in if they say my review is not finished then Im telling the DA I will be turning my self in at his office on the 23rd

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