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GA: Convicted sex offenders removed from registry

A little over two decades ago, ____ ____ stood before a judge and pleaded guilty to aggravated sodomy with his 6-year-old daughter. “____ ____ molested his biological daughter,” Chatham County Chief Assistant District Attorney Greg McConnell said. “He admitted that he made her perform oral sex on him but said it was accidental.”

____ , who was 37 at the time, was sentenced to 10 years — two to be served in prison — followed by eight years of probation.

____ served his time. And in 2014 the state of Georgia, saying he was rehabilitated, forgave him. The Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles granted ____ a pardon, an “order of official forgiveness” that recognized his “good reputation in (his) community following the completion of (his) sentence.”” Full Article

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  1. totally against public registry

    Again, victim’s rights organizations! How many of them are there? Not saying that this man didn’t do something wrong and he IS lucky walking around free, but now they are not going to pardon anyone! Plain and simple!

    As I was reading the article, I was thinking wow what a forward thinking parole board for Georgia. And then wham, came the punch-line and ruined everything

    • Tim Moore

      Why is the man lucky? You infer he should have been punished for life and someone else who was less controversial should get the pardon, so as not to inflame the victims groups (aka district attorners). The parole board stated his “good reputation in the community.” He deserved the pardon.

  2. AO

    What’s the purpose of the poly in this case? Wouldn’t that be incriminating oneself should you fail? I’d imagine the questions would be pretty straight forward such as “have you committed X crime?”. I know in our program we were required to take one sex history poly and it made sure to avoid questions of self incrimination (all the questions had to do with your history prior to your current conviction). And should you fail the poly, it was explicitly never submitted to the PO for the same reason. And when they passed the new law a few years ago where any licensed person was forced to report any CP activity under penalty of law, all CP questions were removed from the poly as to both be compliant with the law and not entrap those going through treatment. So I’m confused how this can legally be handled with people no longer on supervision?

    • Henry

      No one should have to take a polygraph period. I have failed on questions that I was being completely honest about. Polygraph’s DO NOT tell anyone an accurate story. Polygraph’s are completely worthless!!

      • R M

        @Henry, you’re correct, “Polygraph’s are completely worthless!!”… except to those !#&^#@@ cashing in on them.

  3. Registered Citizen

    Hey ya’ll,

    At least people got out this hell hole and can rebuild their lives. I’m glad for them! Tomorrow, it’ll be the rest of us!

  4. E

    “There are people being granted pardons and paroles who really should not be.”

    According to who? You, the one person judge and jury? Or the actual parole board? Sickening.

  5. Will Allen

    I posted the following comment at the article:

    The $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) are pure, through and through, idiotic, counterproductive, immoral, anti-American social policy. No expert has ever supported them. Or will. They are not needed or significantly beneficial. It is time for people with brains to stop pretending live the $ORs are useful.

    If a person is going to protect him/herself and/or his/her family from $EX crimes, then he/she simply MUST treat every single person as if that person is a $EX criminal. That is the ONLY way to actually protect anyone. If that is done, then the very, very, very minimal “feel good” “protection” that is offered by the $ORs is not needed at all. In fact, the $ORs are just a distraction from actual protection.

    Further, no true American can support the $ORs. The $ORs were originally created based on the lies that they would ONLY be used so that people could be “informed”. Obviously, creating the $ORs was just the platform that enabled a huge, constantly expanding, retroactive, immoral, anti-American, often illegal, punishment/harassment/restrictions scheme/war that has infected all of America. No American can support that.

    The $ORs were formed based on the lies that people had some “right” to be “informed”. But obviously that is not the case since there are not 100+ other national, public, lifetime Registries that ALL people who have ever committed ANY serious crime are listed on. How is it even conceivable that we do not have Gun Offender Registries? How is it even conceivable that the terrorists who support the $ORs think that people who are listed on them should not live near schools or be in them and yet they want people who have SHOT CHILDREN WITH GUNS to be in schools?! Obviously, the $ORs are not for public safety, protecting children, or any of those lies.

    If the $ORs were used ONLY as it was originally lied that they would be – to “inform” people – AND if there were national, public, lifetime Registries for EVERY dangerous crime, then and ONLY then could the $ORs possibly/maybe/conceivably be acceptable to Americans. But that is far, far from reality. So no true American can support the $ORs. Only harassing terrorists do.

    Lastly, Vernon Keenan and the GBI are acting criminals that are part of a criminal regime. With regard to their $ORs, they very clearly are not capable of operating within the law. Just for a trivial example – the Registration law very clearly states what information people who are listed on the hit list must give to the criminal government. But that is not good enough for Keenan and the other criminals. They have ALWAYS made it appear as if more information was required. They have ALWAYS asked for more information. They have ALWAYS coerced and intimidated people to provide more information.

    A legitimate government does not do such things. A legitimate government operates within the law. Further, they refer to people on their hit list as “offenders”. The listed people are not offenders. Perhaps they were years and decades ago. But not today. Today, they are just people listed on a Nanny Big Government (NBG) hit list.

    Today, the offenders are Keenan, the GBI, and other criminals in the criminal regime. Those people richly deserve all of the disrespect and contempt that they get. They should never, ever wonder why so many people do not support law enforcement or anything that they do. Personally, I will work with as many organizations and groups as I can to try to keep them broke and dysfunctional. We don’t need their type of huge, counterproductive, bureaucratic, harassing NBG. NBG and their law enforcement criminals need to be shrunk to as small as possible. People who need NBG need to leave America. The rest of us are tired of NBG.

    • totally against public registry

      Will Allen,

      “Further, they refer to people on their hit list as “offenders”. The listed people are not offenders. Perhaps they were years and decades ago. But not today. Today, they are just people listed on a Nanny Big Government (NBG) hit list.”

      That is a very true statement. Thank you. Just like victims of crimes are not victims after the incident. They are SURVIVORS

  6. cool CA RC

    Why can’t this happen in California?

    • AO

      @Cool CA RC – Drastic change to the system, prohibiting more and more people from regaining their full rights? I don’t think we want that happening here. The headline is deceiving. The actual article is about 22 people getting off the registry, and then the process and law changing to basically stop pretty much anyone in the future from doing so as a direct reaction to these people having all their rights restored.

    • ReadyToFight

      @coolCARC,
      I know wutchu mean.
      It’s just every time we read that somewhere in some other state(s) RC’s find relief and every time I read about it (most times) I’m happy for them but I think damn 20yrs later and still no Olive Branch for me or others in Ca??? most of us who just made a bad decision in our youth but forever punished none the less. Yet I read about others that have committed some twisted crime against a little kid getting to move on with their lives??? Some “Justice” system WE have. Frustrating! Pisses me off. But hey… if you can get out and live as a free human being, good on ya.

  7. Tim Moore

    Looks like the pardon board saw many mitigating factors in this man’s life. The public gets a hold of this and says eeew, what a disgusting crime, he needs to be on the list for life. It is a contrast between decisions made by mind and those made by gut.

  8. Tim Moore

    At least Georgia gives out pardons for child related sex offenses, even with the new restrictions it is not a blanket restriction. That’s more liberal minded in California. I’ll take a polygraph to get off this thing. California at present, doesn’t give you a chance.

    • R M

      LOL, I’ve taken probably 11 polygraphs, all have been “no deception” indicated. Yet, I’m still on CSL from 2002, it’s “as if on parole” according to the NJ statute.

      • Will Allen

        A polygraph should have no bearing on anyone being on or off CSL (whatever that is) or anything else. Because polygraphs are useless. That is well known. I know it for a fact personally because I took a large number of polygraphs in the past and a number of them did indicate “deception” even when there wasn’t any in the slightest. One of those instances was even from a polygrapher that I hired myself for the specific purpose of giving myself a “passing” polygraph (just so that it could be used to try to help sway the thoughts/opinions of people who actually think it means anything). So I know for certain that polygraphs don’t work.

      • Tim Moore

        I know the polygraphs are basically chicken bones and tea leaves, but if California said I can stand on my head for ten minutes to get off the registry, it is still more fair than saying I have no options at all.
        Besides, the registry is chicken bones and tea leaves, but too many people believe.

  9. mike r

    Sounds kind of like an equal protection violation as well. Also kind of interesting the court stated that the registry was a legal disabilty that was a symptom to the conviction. Were these parolees at the time of there pardons?

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