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I read the article on the Press Enterprise website. I was impressed by the thoughtful comments left below the article in support of Mr. Figueroa, especially by the fellow student body members. As for the people that left the typical bigoted statements and said they were shocked that they weren’t informed of Mr. Figueroa’s status; Well… the truth is, they can’t handle the truth. It’s better to have a don’t ask\don’t tell policy apparently. It’s too bad someone has taken on a personal vendetta against him. I wish Mr. Figueroa well and hope the culprit is exposed for his own… Read more »

I had a little bit of time, and another random thought about RSO’s penalties and punishments. I’m a little perplexed as to why/how the courts can separated the two when they have similar legal definitions: Punishment Some pain or penalty warranted by law, inflicted on a person, for the commission of a crime or misdemeanor, or for the omission of the performance of an act required by law, by the judgment and command of some lawful court. Penalty: Penalty can be defined as punishment established by law or authority for a crime or offense. OK so a punishment is a… Read more »

I believe you’re confusing punishment with losing some of your civil liberties.
This kinda goes with the territory. Unfortunately, some are completely outrageous and unworthy of a country as great as ours.

The courts rule that red is blue. That is, while it is obvious to anyone that it is punishment, the courts simply say it is not. They say it is inconsequential and that because a line was added to the law several years ago saying it is not intended as punishment, then it is not punishment. There is no attempt at the least bit of honesty by the courts on the question, or on much of anything else about SOR. This is the power the court holds — to declare things to be anything they want them to be, and… Read more »

I’m still curious though…many of my posts are tongue in cheek. When a registry is considered non-punitive, I’m just wondering how being made to move out of your home, banned from certain areas that your tax dollars pay for, etc, etc isn’t considered punishment? Now we know a penalty has and end to it doesn’t it? And we know that a punishment is set for a specific period of time, correct? So losing our civil liberties is forever? Still sounds like a punishment or penalty to me. Darn, I’m stubborn!

The information posted is not punitive in theory.

It is the mob inspired laws that follow that are unconstitutional violating ex post facto in many cases and breaching protections against the Tyranny of the Majority.

Any additional restrictions or prohibitions after sentencing constitute punishment.

Judge Henderson stated that just because a group is unpopular, they don’t deserve any less protections than any other group.

These laws are punitive, but the legislators “said they weren’t” simply to cover their backs (as if we can believe them to begin with…)

@MCH … Truer words have not been written …. :-

When will you abandon this obsession with logic?

Just a few hours left to stop CISPA. Bill HR624 would allow government to share cybersecurity intelligence with private firms. Click TAKE ACTION to oppose:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/33-civil-liberties-organizations-oppose-cispa-after-amendments

Please help find a previous post that listed all of California’s state assemblypeople’s emails. I’ve looked and can’t seem to find it…yet. Thank you

Thank you very much!

Probation/Parole experiences? It seems that on occasion our PO’s get very enthusiastic about enforcing the restrictions SO’s are forced to live with. I know that these guys have a distasteful job to do and many don’t like it, they’re underpaid and have a huge caseload, but then some get quite zealous about their duties, to the point of being antagonistic. I was fortunate that I only had one “problem” with a PO. Over the course of 4 years I had as many PO’s. Three were okay guys, one was not. I found out through experience and counseling that Po’s/law enforcement… Read more »

Come on…you give them too much credit. No one forced them to take their “job” as POs…they are sad, usually from the lower economic family backgrounds who have tons of issues and as I have noticed, savior complexes. They certainly are not hired because they are the cream of the crop or even particularly bright. They have found that this is one job where they can exert control over someone else (something that has been done to them their entire lives) and they are very eager to control, manipulate, and dominate the poor individuals that they are put in “charge”… Read more »

Regarding whether or not to aid a minor in peril – I thought this was an interesting op-ed piece: http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/27/the-self-identity-of-a-sex-offender/

I just entered my 5th year of parole last month and I can tell you things are a little uneasy these days in the parole office that I patronize. This march they saw the third round of personnel cuts from AB109. Their office lease expires soon and they’re uncertain of their future as the next phase of AB109 cuts will be in July. Though I’ve gone head to head with my PO’s on occasion, I have worked out a respectful relation with them and I don’t personally wish them any hardships. One thing that I’ll share which I find is… Read more »

Hello, I am going to school and had big dreams. . . Does anyone know what licenses a 290 registrant can obtain? ex. can they sit for the bar, can they become a veterinarian, can they get a license as a respiratory therapist… etc. What are you guys doing for work? What fields are available to us other than construction and plumbing… What about getting your education here in the U.S. and going abroad to work? For instance, can I go to medical school here, and work in another country?

Any advice would be appreciated…

Generally you are restricted by a felony conviction for which you will have to obtain a records clearance. After that, barring restrictions germane to 290, you are allowed, essentially, to operate as though you had no conviction but it will still block certain professional certifications such as practicing law, medicine, possibly general contractor license, and holding public office.

Anyone else please add/subtract/correct.

Actually, generally speaking, you can get the licenses, but you would need to show rehabilitation. The licensing board is supposed to decide whether you are rehabilitated. That could be a certificate of rehabilitation, but it also can simply be evidence of such without the certificate.

Joe, an excellent article and Tired of Hiding, I was being too kind for sure. My opinion is that PO’s (probation and parole) are the kids that were bullied in gym class and now carry guns. Some have huge chips on their shoulders, some are genuinely concerned for their cases and want to see success, but far too few are like that. Seems the status quo is not giving a crap and hoping for a violation. Thanks for responding. One last comment: Good people can do bad things, but it doesn’t make them bad people. I see my offense in… Read more »

I watched in awe (and disgust) the broadcasts from the Senate floor earlier this week. The absolute truth of the matter is that whenever the legislators discuss anything that even remotely addresses any sex related offense, they seems to come unhinged and start acting like a pack of wolves, salivating at the ease in which they can wrangle in very questionable legislation under the guise of fear. The underlying truth that they can – and do for the most part – succeed at these tactics makes one nervous not only for the disastrous effects these laws have on registrants and… Read more »

I hope you are representing us and speaking with assembly members- this is one of the most thoughtful and eloquent posts I have ever read regarding this subject.

Interesting debate on Reddit about why SO’s get on a registry and murderers don’t:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1d2dz3/why_is_it_that_sex_offenders_have_a_registry_but/

Feel free to comment on this thread on Reddit, about John Walsh and Josuha Lunsford not being RSO’s:

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1d3fdr/til_john_walsh_adam_walsh_child_protection_and/

Test, Hello. Things have gotten quiet… So the 48% that was quoted by the opposition. I am guessing this includes parole violations?

I would like to know where that source and context of the 48% amount comes from myself.

Get this, this woman is convicted of torture and mayhem for cutting off her husband’s penis after she drugged him. And despite all that violence and mutilation, when she is done with her sentence, she can walk free, no SOR needed, she can live anywhere, even next to a child care center in a house that overlooks a park in the back yard and an elementary school on the other side next to the beach — or next door to you, and you will never know. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woman-convicted-severing-penis-20130429,0,6841060.story She, who tortured and cut off a guy’s penis is not so scary… Read more »

LA Times: Police search homes of sex offenders in hunt for girl’s killer http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-leila-fowler-case-20130430,0,2749066.story Do any of these homes searched belong to some not on parole or probation? Anyone from the area have details? Also, if they found fingerprints and DNA – why the delay in matching the samples to the SO database and in arresting a suspect, and the need for searching homes? If the registry does not prevent crime (which it clearly doesn’t – a little girl is dead – SO or not), should it not at least enable a trained monkey to find the guilty party in… Read more »

Good point.

They would need a search warrant to search the home of a SOR not on parole or probation, or they would need the SOR’s permission or the permission of someone else living there.

This has become a drill used by law enforcement in high profile cases to show the media and public that they’re covering the bases. I guess it also demonstrates what the registry can be used for, though in all the cases where I’ve seen them harass registrants I have yet to see this profiling tactic turn up any solid leads. It should have worked for Jessica Lundsford. As humiliating as it would be, I think I would allow Law Enforcement to enter my home regardless of whether or not I was on probation. I understand that they would need a… Read more »

I never allowed them enter my home ever.. I inform them I am no longer on parole or probation, and no I do not who that is, or what is going on.. Of course they verbally abuse you and saying they’ll be back with a warrant.. only after they annonce with a loud booming voice so all your neighbors hear ” THE REASON WE WANT TO SEARCH IS BECAUSE OF YOU SEX OFFENSE HISTORY!” Really, seriously can you yell loud enough.. Of course its the same with the supposed “verifying your address” in 10pm with loud banging on your windows… Read more »

My attitude towards these invasions of privacy may change when I get to a point that I recognize what privacy is once again. I have not experienced that sensation in the last 7 yrs. between prison and parole. The ways that the laws keep changing I’m not certain if I will have any in the future. Right now It’s just me and my cat. If I were married with children and I were approached by a group of law enforcement than I wouldn’t be so liberal about waiving my rights to a search. Being single might put me on a… Read more »

What they might be looking for?!?

Most likely these “public servants” are using this an excuse to intimidate you and to abuse their power over you!

NEVER make the MISTAKE that they have any other motivation other than that. They most certainly DO NOT!

Bravo Bluewell. Just an addendum: there is nothing in the SOR law that requires you to answer the door or verify your address. In fact, if you do answer the door, you don’t have to tell them who you are or whether the SOR registered at that address is really there — there is nothing in the law requiring you to cooperate, and they are not investigating a crime so you are not withholding evidence. Simply investigating WHETHER there is a crime is not good enough. They will have to find other ways to confirm — that is not your… Read more »

Letting the police into my home and tearing it up when I do not have let them, in order to make someone, anyone, ‘feel better’ would never enter my mind. It isn’t going to bring this girl back to life. What about picking up the mess afterwards? No thank you. I take my Civil Rights (4th Amendment – protection against Search & Seizure) rather seriously.

Clearly you are a bigger person than me….

When I was in 2nd grade my buddy Marty and I would proudly take his baby brother Andy for walks up and down the sidewalk in his stroller. Marty and I have remained in contact as friends for the last forty years and he was one of few that corresponded with me while I was in prison. Last year Andy or Drew Collins if you will had his 8 year old daughter Elizabeth abducted along with her cousin Lyric from a park in Evansdale, Iowa. Five months later (Dec.) the girls were found dead in the woods by hunters. I… Read more »

Your attitude is a good one. However, frankly, to encourage the police in that kind of endeavor is actually only harmful. Rather than wasting time using such a high-profile case as an EXCUSE to harass SORs, they should actually be out investigating, do the real job. While they are wasting time harassing SORs POINTLESSLY, the real offender is out there and might be attacking someone. Wasting time simply going down the list and banging on the doors of every SOR is not a legitimate priority of such an investigation. Oh, there might be some details known in the case and… Read more »

Study shows women get notably lighter sentences than men for the same sex offenses:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/04/a_look_at_teacher-student_sex.html

White supremacist in California sentenced for murdering a child molester. The probation report says he was a member of a white supremacist group that required its members to attack anyone with a history of child molestation:

http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/usatoday/article/2135827

But even this well be dismissed as a reason to stop posting SORs on the Internet!

My god, SEX OFFENDERS have been found actually trying to help people! How can we allow that?! Crush them all, don’t let them have any kind of job at all. Story in today’s LA Times about a report SCREAMING that 23 sex offenders have been found among the 36,000 certified drug and alcohol addiction counselors in the state (that is, almost none of them are SORs!). And screaming about the HORROR, the HORROR. The LA Times story simply copied the screaming from the state report. It is the state report writers who decided to take the air of SCREAMING BLOODY… Read more »

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