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Murder trial to begin in 2011 death of sex offender in O.C.

A man accused of killing a registered sex offender in a San Juan Capistrano mobile home park and attacking a second victim days later goes on trial Monday for murder.

Robert Vasquez, 36, could face a sentence of life in state prison without parole if convicted, according to a statement from the Orange County district attorney’s office. Full Article

NOTE: We copied and pasted the headline in the interest of news aggregation. However, we strongly disapprove of the choice of words and this type of reporting.

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  1. MM

    I hope he gets what he deserves. We all live under the threat of a crazy person … Just like Frank L. did but survived. We keep our security screen door locked, ALWAYS. House is closed at night … We are thankful for our 100 lb. lab/pit mix that sounds like a bear whenever a stranger approaches. Education and enlightenment will change some, ignorance and lack of understanding will not change others …. Sad, but true.

  2. C

    Robert Vasquez is an apparent psychopathic murderer who needed only the slightest excuse or trigger to murder someone. In other words, he would have killed someone eventually anyway and that the victim was an RSO is incidental to the case. It should not be part of the headline, but the newspaper business is in the business of selling advertising and people are more likely to pick up and read the ads under this headline if it has the words SEX OFFENDER.
    If the victim happened to be a blonde female RSO the headline would have included the words “Murder Trial to Begin in death of Set Blonde Lesbian Child Rapist.
    Man, would that sell a lot of ad space or what?

  3. A FRIEND

    Further proof to end registry now to those currently
    listed.

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, but this “proof” isn’t proof when it comes to sex offenders.
      If it was any other person, sure, it’s more than adequate.

    • JB

      @Anonymous

      How exactly in your mind is a registrant’s murder by a lunatic because said registrant is required to be on the registry not “proof?” If you have a valid argument then please state it instead of making an unsubstantiated claim.

      I love in fear of EXACTLY this same scenario happens to me.

      End the registries now. Period.

      • Anonymous

        Because, RSO’s so far, not many judges have said that registries are punishment… nor are GPS devices, nor residency restrictions…, signs in front yards, stickers on ID’s and licenses, banishment from federal housing assistance, etc and now thanks to the “farm bill”, sex offenders and their family members will be denied food stamps.

        • JB

          I’m not entirely certain what your argument is. Do you have a point?

      • alert

        Anonymous was being:
        Facetious -adjective 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark. 2. amusing; humorous.
        JB
        Get a grip; Your chances of being harmed by a sex offender homicidal maniac are far less than all the other ways you can be hurt or killed.

        • JB

          Ad hominem attacks are not necessary. I asked for clarification of the point trying to be made and your assertion of facetiousness is way off the mark.

          Vigilante murders of registrants is real and it is happening. I am on the registry and the possibility of this happening to me scares me. The flawed idea of the registry is to make people safer, which it does not do one bit, but the irony is that it makes registrants much less safe.

          By your twisted logic since registrants being murdered doesn’t happen all that often we should do nothing. To make that argument on a website dedicated to the restoration of registrants’ constitutional rights is outlandish and has no place here.

          The registry must be abolished. End of story. If you don’t agree with me try using some facts to substantiate your claims. Otherwise join the fight.

        • alert

          JB, you can choose not to live in fear just as you could have chosen not to be listed on the registry.
          Your choice!

        • JB

          You are extremely obtuse and your attitude is not appreciated here. If you’re going to be a troll I suggest you go back to FreeRepublic or whatever right wing website sent you here. I will not engage you further.

        • alert

          Your claim to be fighting for the “cause” doesn’t persuade me at all.
          Put yourself “out there” on the front lines as so many other oppressed minorities have done in the past and allow the masses to identify with your suffering. Be willing to die as a martyr to further the cause of justice
          Live your life as an example of the virtue of rehabilitation and walk proud knowing that you’re a worthy person who should not be harmed or killed.
          And if you are, know that it will be for the “cause”.
          Stop cowering in the corner behind a keyboard filled with superlatives and expect to be taken seriously except by the ignorant and naive.
          Get a backbone, stand tall and fight the fight!

        • td777

          If you’re here just to attack RSOs for simply being RSOs, then please find somewhere else to be. I sincerely hope your IP gets banned by the administrators of this site.

        • Anonymous

          It seems people have become really stupid, not just those who are not sex offenders, but those who are as well.

          I AM A SEX OFFENDER, AND I COME ON HERE ANONYMOUSLY TO MAKE A POINT THAT SO FAR, EVERYTHING THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE CONSIDERED PROOF IS NOT PROOF WHEN WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE VICTIM BEING A SEX OFFENDER.

          How much more clear can i get? You all get it? Do i have to give my name here so you realize my point? Can’t i remind people WHY murderers of sex offenders are less likely to serve out time than those who commit regular murder of non-sex offender?

          Every RSO needs to wake the hell up.

      • C

        @JB – Unless you are getting specific death threats, or even general ones, I strongly recommend abandoning this constant state of fear. We are in a unique, awkward, unfair, and lousy situation, but if you are an able bodied human being then, trust me on this, there are lots of people sick and dying in hospitals that would trade places with you in a New York minute.

        In all this craziness there is one thing you can control: your attitude.
        That is your choice. Get a good one about this BS, stop living in fear and I promise life will be 100 times easier for you.

        Personally I choose to be happy and savor the tremendous joy my kids bring me.

        If you are getting threats, call the cops and/or move. I’d opt for the latter. Good luck – I am praying for you. If you need someone to talk to, let me know. Maybe we can figure out a way to chat.

        • JB

          Conflating issues does not address the concern I have. I enjoy a spirited debate but when you resort to what you think I “should” do while conflating my concerns with your opinions it really leaves little point to the conversation.

          My point is to end the registry. Do you disagree with my point?

        • C

          @JB I think I am going to let you work things out on your own, so good luck with that.

        • Anonymous

          I am trying desperately NOT to disclose my evasive actions for fear of exposing myself to the general public and to law enforcement. There are those stalking me actively, i have sufficient proof. Let’s put it this way, Most of those who are stalking me are cops, or friends of cops.

          I wish i can say more, but doing so will expose me.

  4. Joe

    “Vasquez wanted to kill the man because Rainwater was a registered sex offender, said Ebrahim Baytieh, the deputy district attorney who is prosecuting the case.”

    … it is not like the OCDA has been going out of its way to vilify people required to register by painting them like marauding lunatics just looking to pounce on any kid in a park. How awkward to now be prosecuting someone accused of murdering one of them and claiming that the registration requirement is the motive for the crime. Gee, I wonder why.

  5. alert

    I don’t believe everything I read. For all I know the investigating detectives may have asked a question like “Did you know he was a sex offender when you killed him”?
    Uhhh..yeah, that’s why I did it.
    It’s like the guy who killed his jailhouse friend after his wife told him he was a sex offender to get him out of their home after he moved in with them. I imagine there was much more to that story.
    I would advise any RSO to take this garbage reporting with a grain of salt.

  6. 290 Wife

    I was a LA Times subscriber for over 25 years. Home delivery, 7 days a week, auto pay every month.

    I understand that just like the rest of the media the LA Times has to sell ads and if it bleeds it leads. Or even better, the words sex offender in the headline. Not even ‘registered’.

    For me the last straw was a year or two ago when a headline read ‘so with dementia missing in blah blah blah’. So this was about an older man with a conviction from tens of years ago (the dates were on the megans web site) suffering from dementia who most likely wandered out the front door. Do ya think the family regretted asking authorities for help finding him before he came to harm?

    Anyway, right afterwards I canceld my newspaper subscription – of 25 plus years, mind you. I was looking forward to the call from the sales department how they could get me to re-subscribe. I had a speech all prepared. The call never came.

    Clearly the LA Times does not miss my 4-500 bucks a year. I do not really miss them. I enjoy having the extra cash in my wallet.

    • C

      The LA Times is such a leftist rag I dumped them a decade ago for their shoddy reporting. Occasionally I’ll check out the online version which is even worse. I swear they use high schoolers to write their drivel. The Daily News is no better. Stick with the Wall Street Journal. I know it’s part of Murdoch’s empire but every story is relevant and enlightening. You’ll never see local news crap, like the RSO with dementia (I imagine some old fart staggering down the street drooling, fly open, arms outstretched and hands groping the air like a zombie). If an SO story appears it will have national implications without the sensationalism.

  7. Tired of hiding

    We all know that the list has NOT prevented a single child from being harmed…

    However, we DO KNOW FOR A FACT that it has enabled crazy people to MURDER those listed on it (most of us are either innocent and caught up by an insane system OR have paid our “debt” to society long ago)!

    Frankly I would NOT care if it actually DID work…when the secondary use of it is as a “hit list” for crazies to be motivated and to target other human beings!

  8. Virginia Hall

    Do you remember the early days of MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving)? They would show up at trials,and talk about the damage done to the victim by the drunk driver, and reinforce the need to change laws so that drunk drivers who harmed people were punished most severely. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with their stance, they were EFFECTIVE. Anyone else out there willing to attend this trial (show up) and SPEAK UP against vigilante justice? There will soon be another one in Temecula, CA which will be worth attending.

    http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/temecula/temecula-headlines-index/20130607-temecula-father-daughter-to-stand-trial-in-vigilante-attack.ece

    • Joe

      Ha ha. Good one, VH! Only in America….

      “Virginia Hall · Top Commenter
      So the girl is “mature”enough to be charged with a violent felony as an adult, but evidently too young to consent to sex?
      · Friday at 6:10am”

  9. Robert Curtis

    Hey guys,
    Here’s the humor in this (sad to say) but the DA’s office is going to have to in some way define the registrant in some way in a positive light in order to get this guy somehow convicted with either life in prison or the death penalty. Sadly with life in prison the guy inside will be seen as some kind of celebrity.

    It would be very interesting to get a written transcript of the trial and use it via quotes during the trial for media leverage later. The DA on one hand has been fighting to kicks us and our families out of parks yet in a way must defend us from violence while still being okay with having a legalized (?) hit list for us to be killed from. Interesting. What part of this sounds just to weird to be real? Janice, please help us understand!!

    • Janice Bellucci

      I have my doubts that the deputy DA will even mention in court that the murder was of a “sex offender”. In another case of vigilante violence, the deputy DA prosecuted a man for assault and battery and never mentioned that the victim was a “sex offender”. A long-term goal for this organization is to change the “hate crimes” laws to reflect that an attack upon registrants is a hate crime. As it now stands, anyone who attacks and even murders a registrant is not guilty of such a crime and therefore the status of the victim does not have to be mentioned.

      • td777

        It is pretty telling when motive is considered in almost every violent crime except for those against RSOs.

  10. A FRIEND

    More likely than not…that coward will plea guilty to lifenprison…
    no more freedom …locked up for the rest of his coward life…
    looked upon as a coward and dumb****.

  11. Joe

    Trial Recap – Day One

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/vasquez-513137-rainwater-told.html
    “D.A.: Man thought neighbor he attacked was a molester”

    (registration required – it is free and possibly no email verification required)

    • mike

      I think they should charge the mother, Margo Vasquez with harassment or something on behalf of the parents of Mr. Rainwater. Her spoon feeding such hatred undoubtedly fueled the son’s lust for vengeance. The article paints her as a wicked wretch.

    • Eric Knight

      Of course, there is the clown who wants to see the murderer get off.

      Comments from the first patch link:

      Todd Picayune June 18, 2013 at 11:46 am

      If I were on the jury, I would vote to acquit. Registered sex offenders have no place in our society, and it is too easy for the justifiably terrorized public’s nerves to rationalize actual safety, and in my opinion the accused person’s actions were justified.

      I wonder if the jury is sequestered, and if not, what effect these commenters may have on them?

  12. USA

    This is a highly disturbing article and a highly disturbing individual. First, this isn’t the first time this has occurred? Now, do you see people going out and killing MURDERERS or WIFE Beaters? Or, what about the low down scum bags that sell drugs to underage kids, get them hooked on drugs with the potential for them to overdose? See how society has created this stereotype of view of Sex Offenders? Or, have you seen a guy who drinks and drives and goes out and kills someone? Have you seen anyone go out and attempt to kill them? I mean, this is the lowest of the lowest? All I see today when I turn on the TV is sex and drugs. As a parent, I don’t see ONE individual who is a good role model for children. Its disturbing to see how people view individuals based upon their past criminal behavior? Whats worst? Murderers? Drunk driver who went out and killed someone? Or, a guy who was caught flashing?

  13. OC Dude

    From the Orange County District Attorney web site – orangecountyda.com

    MAN CONVICTED OF STABBING-MURDER OF NEIGHBOR AND ASSAULTING SECOND VICTIM WITH METAL OBJECT

    On the morning of Dec. 1, 2011, Vasquez waited outside of the home of his neighbor, Bobby Ray Rainwater, Jr., with the intention of murdering him because the victim was a registered sex offender. When the victim left his home, Vasquez attacked Rainwater by punching him in the back of the head. The defendant then stabbed Rainwater multiple times, nearly decapitating him. After murdering the victim, Vasquez fled the scene. The Orange County Sheriff’s Department (OCSD) began investigating this case.

    “with the intention of murdering him because the victim was a registered sex offender”!!!

  14. mike

    Thankfully this guy was found guilty and will now probably get LWOP. What I found completely hypocritical was this line from an article: “In his own words, Vasquez called Rainwater a “creeper,”. Okay Mr. Vasquez, but doesn’t a creeper hide in bushes waiting for a victim to walk by and then jump out and attack them from behind? Like… you?

  15. USA

    It’s kind of ironic that the same DA’s office that is fighting for more stringent Sex Offender Laws is now prosecuting and convicting an individual for killing a Sex Offender! I honestly never saw anything on the news regarding this? Hmmm. If this were anyone else, people would be outraged and the DA would be demanding this be all over the news media and requesting tougher laws (HateCrime). I mean, let’s face it! If the victim hasn’t had his personal information online, this wouldn’t have happened? There is no doubt about it! Unlike (sorry if I sound rude) a lot bog you, I look at this from a different angle! If LE puts your personal information online for all to see, they are jeopardizing your safety and your families safety/welfare! Shouldn’t we hold them accountable legally? Lawsuit? Lets start calling for tougher standards for them? Welfare checks? What are they doing to protect you? Instead of being paranoid when they come to your door, ask what they are doing to protect you! Turn it around. Ask for extra patrol checks?

  16. USA

    Lets confront OC’s DA and ask him what he is doing to ensure the safety of current Sex Offenders in his county and their innocent family members? Turn it around’

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