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How a Law Aimed at Sex Offenders Could Feed into the Growing Surveillance State

Last November, California voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 35, the Californians Against Sexual Exploitation (CASE) Act. Like “tough on crime” anti-trafficking legislation around the country, Proposition 35 was presented as bolstering law enforcement’s ability to fight human trafficking by introducing a bundle of new laws that, most prominently, increased penalties for those convicted of trafficking human labor, made prostitution a sex crime, and with less public attention, created a new requirement for registered sex offenders. Full Article

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Well, I think people really need to pay attention to these proposed laws. Seriously. As of today, some sex offenders are banned from living in certain areas of the city, banned from visiting libraries, parks, beaches, some movie theaters, prohibited from working in certain professions, harassed each time they partake in International Travel, some are required to inform the police if they are going to travel, banned from joining facebook without posting they are a sex offender, some sex offenders are required to post signs on their lawn, some sex offenders have posters of them posted all over the city and now providing internet identifiers? In addition, if this wasn’t enough, the names of sex offenders and their home addresses are posted online for all to see? Now, I don’t know about you, but I’m in shock. When or where does it stop? This is nuts. Whats next? No International Travel? You have to provide your phone records? You can’t leave the city to visit an ill relative without informing the police/this is already a law in some states? You can’t drive a car? Work? Leave your house at night? You can’t have children? You can’t visit your children at school/this is also a law in some states! Bank records? DId you know that in some cities, you are required to pay to register?

All of the above. Seems like, if you can think of it, it is or will be a law somewhere. But there is a lack of laws or rather initiatives that restore both victims and offenders to productive citizens. Some Indian tribes have gone this way or gone back this way, drawing on thousands of years of what actually works, and not having money to build more jails. I guess we can afford to put more and more people in prison, creating a society of serfs and slaves, kept going by fear.

Just for your information about international travel.

Our government alerts the government / law enforcement of our travel plans. This is done via Interpol. When you or I travel from the USA what is called a “Green Notice” is issued to the country of destination.

This is taken from the OFFICIAL INTERPOL WEBSITE:

“INTERPOL’s main tool for dealing with travelling sex offenders is the Green Notice.

A Green Notice is issued to provide warnings and criminal intelligence about persons who have committed criminal offences and are likely to repeat these crimes in other countries. It is an effective way to share key police intelligence on a global scale and to prevent offenders from crossing borders.

As well as working to prevent these crimes from taking place in the first place, we coordinate joint operations between multiple countries to track down offenders. Support to these operations includes training, briefings, the sharing of data, intelligence analysis and technical advice.”

We are the test cases for the master plan of completely turning the USA into a Police State (overtly this time).

Leave if you can before you are locked in (if it is not already too late).

RE: ” A Green Notice is issued to provide warnings and criminal intelligence about persons who have committed criminal offences and are likely to repeat these crimes in other countries.” ~

That is unsubstantiated: it’s just as likely that any traveler (as “anyone”, anywhere) can, or is likely to commit what ever crimes that are listed on the “Green Notice”.
We’re being held hostage by our own countrymen.

Facebook terms of agreement say “convicted sex offenders are not to use Facebook”, other than the language issue, other former offenders, like those whom have taken lives are not barred from using it; nor are anyone with the potential of committing any crimes (which is everyone) aren’t barred.
Facebook says no person under the age of 13 may use Facebook. Okay, they haven’t attempted to remove any of my relatives “below 13” aged children off of Facebook.

Soon, they’ll have everyone registered, required to wear bright vests or hats that say “Sex Offender” (Not to give them any idea’s).

Possibly too late. The problem is, of course, that in order to be free of U.S. laws we have to first become citizens of another country. Have you tried to renounce your U.S. citizenship lately? T’aint easy! Even if you manage, through some INCREDIBLE miracle (as an R.S.O.) to first obtain citizenship from another country, the U.S. will make it extraordinarily difficult to renounce. My business partner (who isn’t even an RSO or a candidate for becoming one) finally, after many years of trying and 100’s of thousands of dollars obtaining citizenship elsewhere (a little bitty country) managed to do it after being refused repeatedly by U.S. State Department over years. They really don’t want to let you go, particularly if you have money. And if you’re a sex offender – money or not – you can imagine how tough they make it. And without citizenship elsewhere, it is completely out of the question. You just can’t do it. “Statelessness” is not an option that the U.S. will let you exercise. And if you simply pick up and leave and decide to overstay your visa in whatever country you’ve chosen as your new home? There’s an excellent chance that the U.S. will come after you and that your adopted country and Interpol will fully participate in that effort. Now you’re looking at failure to register and whatever else they can throw at you.

This reminds me of the Soviet Union. Many years ago, I helped, in a very small way, to get a Jewish scientist/refusenik out of the Soviet Union. Little did I know back then that my own country would one day be placing the same kind of obstacles in my path to freedom.

I am kind of interested in the living abroad thing. As long as you physically exit the area of the US (50 states and territories) and properly check out of your controlling agency (Police / Sheriff) at your place of residence, and manage to get permanent residence status somewhere, what keeps you under US jurisdiction?

There are certain countries that I know of (i.e. in Central America) where US Citizens can get residence status by just proving a steady stream of income (low, along the lines of SS benefits) or make a one-time deposit in a local bank.

There is, of course, a background check – for any criminal conviction, not just a so. Assuming that your offense was not a deal breaker in the host country, or you find an attorney who can help get it done; so, assuming your criminal background does not rule out residency, why could you not live there in peace and quiet free from the system, whilst retaining US Citizenship? And possibly obtain citizenship there in the future, as it must be easier to get after a period of residency?

If you ever came back to the US to visit, you would of course have to register with the appropriate agency where you will be staying and check out again upon departure.

Is this too simple?

I have lived outside of the USA 2 times while being a RSO. BOTH times I simply informed the police of my intent to move out of the STATE as required by law.

They told me that I needed to provide them with proof that I was actually living in the other country. Since I was living as a “tourist” with a tourist visa I was renting furnished apartments and did not have any utility bills in my name. I could get however, a cell phone which showed my name and the address of the apartment I was renting.

I copied that and sent it via Fed/Ex back to the police department with attention to the detective in charge of us sex offenders. I then had proof of delivery. I also requested to have an email sent as further proof of receipt of the documents.

This was done in Florida the first time I was gone for 1 full year. Most recently in California where I was out of the US for 6 full years.

I am back and planning my next destination for a long term stay at the moment. I would like to get out of here before the boarders are completely closed to us…which could happen at anytime.

@Tired – thank you for the info. That is kind of what I was thinking…

One more note – not saying that I would not do it, but I do not see any language that requires a person checking out of one jurisdiction to provide proof to be living elsewhere. Or even informing anyone of your intention to leave the state. All you need to do is check out, and then you have x days to leave the state or get in trouble for being considered transient in your old state.

If you move within the 50 states and territories you are required to check in per the new state’s laws, and they are to communicate amongst each other. If moving to a place outside of the US all you have to comply with the new country’s laws, and given that 99% are not insane that should be the end of that. That is how I understand this.

Again, I would probably do as you did, but the urge might be great after a short while to ‘upgrade’ living arrangements in the new country, lol. Or move to another country. Wanderlust strikes without warning.

Remember what it felt like to just be able to move like a normal person…

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