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Internal report praises monitoring of sex offenders accused of murder

An internal investigation of the effort to track two high-risk sex offenders now accused of raping and murdering four women praises federal probation officers and puts the ultimate blame for their being unaware of the crimes on “the complex nature of human behavior.” Full Article

 

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  1. B

    Anyone who would rape and murder is beyond by understand, so I don’t know the right answer to this, but it is clear that GPS is not the answer. I am reminded of Ronald Reagan who famously said that the best social program ever invented was a good job. The government (at a state and federal level) should dial back on command and control and work especially hard at finding sex offenders good jobs. Or at least not prevent them from finding good jobs.

    • cool rso guy

      pushed into a hard spot and a rock with nothing to lose..

    • td777

      The problem is, and I knew these two men personally since I was on parole in the same office as they were, and one of them, who was the leader out of the two, had a job.

  2. Q

    The only this this whole thing shows me is that GPS failed and is not a viable solution for anything, and the registry failed (again) and is not a viable solution for anything either. Neither of these supposed solutions work; and the pile of dead bodies that gets higher each year proves the registry’s failure and the failure of GPS. These quacks ignore the truth and praise the failures that were responsible for these two murderers and once again, the registrant gets the blame for the systems failure and the failures of those responsible for making sure the system works as promised.

    Just more trash news.

    • Q

      BTW:

      I emailed my response to this offensive and lie/BS filled article to the authors.

    • td777

      You couldn’t be more right. The only thing the GPS did while I was on parole was break, show me in places I wasn’t, quit working for hours at a time, and hide from the satellite if I was on the first floor of a two story building or any building with a significant amount of metal in its structure.

  3. USA

    No offense guys, but I do have to agree with the memo. Lets be real. NOTHING can prevent a crime from being committed unless the perpetrator is in custody! So, its very obvious that serious parole/probation and GPS monitoring can do nothing to prevent crimes from being committed! LEts get serious, we can turn this negative into a positive. Perhaps the State needs to institute a tier system where only High Risk Sex Offenders are monitored and those who are mid to low risk fall off the registry?

    • Q

      USA

      A good, right and common sense response to this article. However; we all know the registry is a useless piece of garbage in it’s present form. We all know it violates our human and civil rights. We are well aware that the only viable solution that will get the registry to actually function as a useful tool of oppression is a tiered registry and dropping all the low level registrants.

      The problem I have with this article is it shifts the blame for the failure of GPS and the registry, as well as probation and any other agencies involved squarely on the registrant. The article states “The killings occurred while the men were under the watch of multiple law enforcement agencies, and living within walking distance of one of the agencies. “ the article goes on to state “Federal probation officials have refused to discuss the case .” This is clear cut failure of all agencies involved and a continuing failure of the registry and GPS to protect anyone or prevent or deter crime.

      This seems to be nothing less than a subtle form of brainwashing. Keeping the lie alive.

    • td777

      The only problem is your question “Perhaps the State needs to institute a tier system where only High Risk Sex Offenders are monitored and those who are mid to low risk fall off the registry?”

      In California, ALL registrants are considered high risk while on parole.

    • Joe

      If you are okay with certain ‘high risk’ people being placed on a registry and monitored you may want to remember that the State of California and the overwhelming majority of its residents are quite okay with considering ‘high risk’ and placing on this registry for life anyone ever convicted of a certain type of offense.

      Its a slippery slope, a slippery slope indeed…

      • Tim

        Yah Joe, you’ve said what I was thinking. The reason we have lifetime registration for everyone is that everyone convicted of the crimes included for registration law is considered too dangerous to let off the registry. A tiered registry needs to go hand in hand with education. Unless the Supreme Court deems registration outside of parole or probation unconstitutional, or the media starts educating the public in which dangers are real and which are unlikely any law with good intention is going to be corrupted by ignorance. What do you think if the next shocking murder involves someone who happens to have a conviction for urinating in public? I think that offense would be put in the top tier with a new law named after the victim.

        • Joe

          What I am REALLY trying to say is that I am getting tired of people here saying “sure there are some who should be on a registry and monitored for the rest of their lives but not me, not my loved one, not me, never me.”. What I am saying that if you, for one second, approve of this registry for anyone – even considered ‘high risk’ by some sort of crystal ball, then get comfortable being on it until the day you die, as society views you just the same as you view those you deem deserving of this registry.

          It is all or nothing. There are no shades of gray. Either every criminal goes on the same kind of registry, or none.

        • Q

          Well said Joe; I couldn’t have said it better. The registry is illegal, even though they say it’s not. The registry and all associated laws need to be abolished!

        • Tim

          I think you misunderstand me if you think I believe there SHOULD be a registry even if everyone is on it. What I was trying to say is that legislation based on ignorance is the monster in the room.

    • Jason Wilson

      People commit crimes in prison. It’s usually the correctional officers that do that though. (I know, i was was an inmate once)

  4. USA

    Guys, we need to recall who we are dealing with! First, we have 2 sex offenders who committed murder while on parole! (you always have to look at things with a different perspective/things aren’t always as black and white as they seem). Clearly, someone is going to sue the State of California for serious money! So, have you ever heard of a city or State admitting to guilt! Got it! Even if they had been at fault, they wouldn’t admit it. We all agree that the State of California is all messed up! California needs to wake up and realize that you can’t continue to keep misdemeanor or even expunged individuals on the Registry. Thats nuts! I plead to my (1) count almost 18 years ago. All (5) original counts where dismissed, I received my bail back and surrendered myself almost 3 months later to jail/or I had the chance of going to a lock down facility. I also receive SUMMARY PROBATION? My probation ( I can’t give it all away) stated stay away from prostitutes basically. The charge was eventually reduced to a misdemeanor and expunged (I simply mailed in the expungement request and it was granted/never showed up to court). I eventually (I live in OC) want to OC to request a Certificate of Rehab after 13 or so years, but the DA was a monster and the Judge declined to grant it after stating, I can’t find one reason to deny the motion, but its not enough. Motion denied. Not to get into details again, but I’ll be living in LA County for about a year in about a few months/long story. I was thinking of attempting to file this motion in LA, since I will be living in the city. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas with regards to this? I know for a fact that the Legal System in LA is much different then OC? I’m educated, went back to school and obtained a BA and MBA? Any suggestions? Thoughts? Anyone with any past experiences in LA? Filing (on my own) 17 (B) and PC1203.4 in LA was simple and no issues/granted? My plea or current situation is that my charge/expunged prevents me from being (battery) on the Megans website and its not a high risk or serious. Its considered an other ? Thanks

    • It is what it is

      USA, I’m not a lawyer, but based on my experience and what you posted as to the facts of your case, I would say get a lawyer and file for a COR the second you move to LA County.

      It doesn’t matter how long you have resided in any particular county, it only matters that you have lived in the state of California for the time required so you should technically be able to apply in LA the day your residence changes to there.

      I received a COR in SD County, and the process was not that bad. DA does a thorough background investigation, but they don’t argue (at least they didn’t in my case) against it. They DID argue against it when I was getting mine reduced to a misdemeanor, and in fact I thought the reduction to a misdemeanor was more difficult to obtain than the COR.

      It seems to me that the qualifications for COR are so narrow – with the time requirements, the need for it to be a misdemeanor, and being restricted to only certain offenses – that for those who actually do qualify the DA encourages us to get some relief. Unlike the reduction to a misdemeanor, it seems like for the COR the DA’s office actually worked WITH me instead of against me. That was my perception anyway, and keep in mind I am talking about the SD DA which is not exactly known as being RSO-friendly.

      I would imagine that LA would be similar or better to the process in SD because LA is a bit more liberal and has more people and COR petitions are probably seen a lot more frequently.

      I seriously think OC is just a cesspool for hyper-vigilant and hyper-reactive tough on crime types who think people caught peeing in public should be locked-up for life. All those residency restrictions Janice is fighting – while they are scattered in different places throughout the state – the concentration seems to be in OC. OC probably one of the worst places in the state to be a RSO or to seek any type of relief. If I were you, I would not let your experience there discourage you from applying in LA city. Your experience is bound to be much better there.

      In SD County it takes about 6 months from the time you file for a COR until your court date, so I wouldn’t waste any time.

      • Tim

        Mind if I ask if you hired a lawyer, public defender or did it yourself?

  5. USA

    It is, thank you for the advice. . I’ve also heard Dan Diego is an easier county to obtain a COR. I just don’t live in the area. I’ll probably be contacting the Public Defenders Office or file it on my own. I filed the last one in OC , but later had an attorney represent me after the DA became nuts! I also filed both my reduction and expungement without representation

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