If a school mandated uniforms and suspended a child too poor to afford them, there would be an uproar. Media would excoriate the school for denying the impoverished an education due to their financial circumstances. Many would wonder at the cost of a uniform relative to the school’s budget, suggesting that the school simply offer the child a simple uniform. As ever, our instinctive notions of justice and fair play seem to end at criminal court. In the state of Louisiana, a person required to register as a sex offender who cannot afford to do so, even if he or she turns himself or herself in to the police and asks for help, will be tried, found guilty, and sentenced to prison.[1] Inability to pay will not protect the sex offender from incarceration, nor will informing law enforcement and requesting aid. Under the current regulatory scheme, indigent sex offenders who have served their time have only prison in their future. Full Article
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PRESS RELEASE ***please refrain from labeling your personal opinion a press release, or please source it properly. Moderator***
In conjunction with the passage of the 28th Amendment today by an unknown group of legislators and the revision of the 14th Amendment States are not required to provide fugitive sex registry non-humans legal aid of any kind. Non-humans charged with sex offenses will be summarily convicted, sentenced, and imprisoned and denied any right of appeal. The writ of habeas corpus has also been declared off limits to those convicted. Do you want to know more?
In a related deal, as a result of the savings in legal aid, all prosecutors and judges have received substantial raises and other benefits, including vacations to the Bahamas. Persons who bring charges resulting in convictions are paid 50,000 euro dollars for their time. Do you want to know more? Stay tuned.
Luckily for a person on Parole in CA they can not DO ANYTHING If you OWE and DONT Pay. I OWE to RESTITUTION… MORE than a NEW car. This is for the ‘slush’ fund, not physical property damage.
I am disabled and get less than 1K a month to LIVE ON.
This wonderful state of CALIFORNIA will never see a PENNY. I do NOT have LAND/PROPERTY or anything like that. They can collect if I play the lottery, which I dont so Cant win something I dont play.
It will SIT on their books the $$ I owe and they will NEVER SEE ONE RED CENT. I litterly keep a 0.01 in my bank account so if the SCUMS want to come after a bank account it will COST them 10000X more than they can get from the account.(Im sure they have to PAY to get a bank levy) and the LEVY is good for ONE TIME.
I remember long ago the Franchise tax board went after my Chase Liguid PREPAID card for BACK DMV fee’s while I was locked up.. they got a whopping $0.61 ! Im sure it cost them more to get and do and process the levy than they got !
Just as stupid as the direct mailers that sent me a prepaid envelope, I taped it onto a box full of bricks and sent it to them im sure they paid nicely for all that weight ! hahah
My license can not be suspended (as it is is not child support/property damage restitution) and my case is long long over.)
Funny thing court ordered it to be paid at something like $30 a month, never going to or will ever happen !
Stupid judge knew my health situation and ordered it anyways. *RETARD ALERT* You cant suck blood from a turnip !
Thanks god I was on PAROLE not probation. I dont ‘pay’ to register 290, I Didnt have to PAY RESTITUTION to ‘get off parole’ and never paid for a junk science poly. Unfortunately ive heard the opposite of probation, You have to PAY to get off, you have to PAY as a CONDITION and you have to pay for a junk science nobody to give you FAKE Science (POLY).
This STATE is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY….
I guess also thank god we really have NO RESTRICTIONS now that parole is over (residence parks,beach etc etc etc)
Nice, cost them money, bankrupt them even further. Like the one about the prepaid envelope. Wonder if that worked, lol.
Lol, some states, cities, and towns can’t provide anyone poor legal assistance, but they can waste millions on Sora’s. It’s beyond explanation anymore, maybe it’s true, the end is near. The rich have all the money.
Can someone please explain to me how they can require someone who has completed all of their sentences to register and then PAY FOR REGISTRATION and if they don’t pay, they go to prison????
HOW IS THIS LEGAL?????
Forget if the person is indigent or not. I don’t care if the registered citizen is a millionaire. He/she should not have to pay a dime beyond his/her original fine.
so right new…it boggles the mind that there has been no real challenge addressing the false facts and the real issues such as what you have there…the justification for these laws are a real issue along with everything else we all have stated on here…..
1. A FEE is monies I ELECT to pay in return for some benefit or permission to do something.
(Elect…. as in… if I do not wish to pay the fee for a marriage license, I can elect not to get married. If I do not wish to pay the fee for a contractor license, I can elect not to work as a contractor. If I do not wish to pay the fee for a Driver License, I can elect not to operate a motor vehicle on public roads. Heck, if I do not wish to pay taxes I can elect not to generate taxable income, not own real estate or only purchase tax exempt goods).
2. Having to pay monies as a result of a prior transgression, under the threat of prosecution is a FINE.
(like the fine for a speeding ticket or court ordered fines at sentencing).
3. A fine is PUNISHMENT.
4. Punishment after the fact is EX POST FACTO punishment.
5. Ex Post Facto Punishment is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
How is that difficult?
I find it interesting that this comes out of LSU School of Law where in the state of Louisiana, it is a rough rough life for the one who is an RC there, but no one seems to care. Kudos to LSU for publishing this in hopes someone in Baton Rogue will read it and maybe make some headway on it. Hopefully they wake up and provide a good intention slush fund to pay for an honest effort as noted since they are supposed to be a big Christian state, but don’t bet on it. They will turn on you faster than a gator getting the bait dangling in front of them.
Response to New Person and request for response from Janice B.,
from Rick
By the way I tied it into involuntary servitude nearly 2 years ago. In my lawsuit that was denied with prejudice, and the appeal I made but decided not to file a simple document that resulted in its dismissal I chose to do, because I really expected no legitimate response from the 2d circuit u.s. CT. of Appeals since they have denied all petitions involving registration for one stupid reason or another, and I was frustrated.
But in that case, I used slavery and involuntary servitude as numerous causes of action. If Janice B. Is interested in seeing the extent of the denial of justice in the case, all she needs to do is use her PACER account and look up the case that was denied at the end of April 2016, northern district of new York.
In that case I argued I was unlawfully in the custody of the NYS Dept. Of Corrections, since the law was implemented as nysdoc sex offender registration. In the custody argument I raised the scrotus case, Hensley v. Municipal Court, 411 U.S. 345, where the court held, “applying that principle, we can only conclude that petitioner is in custody… First he is subject to restraint’s not shared by the public generally” Jones v. Cunning ham, supra 83s.ct at 376. “That is, the obligation to appear ‘at all times and places as ordered by (a)my court or magistrate of competent jurisdiction”. “He cannot come and go as he pleases. His freedom rests in the hands of state judicial officers who may demand his presence at any time with a moment’s notice. Disobedience is itself a criminal offense. The restraint on his liberty is no less severe than the conditions imposed on the unattached reserve officer who we held to be ‘in custody’ in Strati v. Laird, supra, at para 12.
I don’t think I need to tell you how often you must appear at particular places and times and at any time to comply with most Sora’s. Although the cases above were used for the purposes of establishing whether or not the person could utilize a writ of habeas corpus, in which they could because they were clearly in custody. It is also clear by this standard that all RC’s are in custody as well. We will be in custody for the rest of our lives, whether you are a 1, 2, or 3. Because even if you get off in one state, it doesn’t mean you are free from other states or the federal govt. This slavery is until death.
I also claimed they had no right to have control over me, and I submitted numerous cases to support it. One in particular was, Fuentes v. Bd. Of Education. Et al. 12 NY.2d 309, 314, 2009, NYS CT. Of Appeals. The NYS CT. of Appeals ruled that under state law a noncustodial parent is not considered a parent during the special education process. The court therefore ruled that a noncustodial parent does not have the right to make decisions for his child unless he is afforded such a right in a custody order. Simply put, you have to get a custody order from a court to make decisions about someone’s life you don’t have custody of. But Sora’s allow these people the right to make us do anything they want based upon some ridiculous ‘duty’ that does not exist, and has never existed, and they claim we are not in custody. If that is the case, then why must we comply. The law clearly states we do not unless they have custody of us.
The 2d. Cir. U.S. CT. Of Appeals says that a compelling interest allows them to search and seize us anytime they want without a warrant. But in Marshall v.Barlow’s Inc., 436 U.S.307, the U.S. Supreme CT., said, “Even in that context a warrantless search is only reasonable if it meets three criteria, there must be a substantial government interest that informs the regulatory scheme pursuant to which the inspection is made, warrantless inspections must be necessary to further the regulatory scheme, and the scheme, in terms of the certainty and regularity of its application, must provide a constitutionally adequate substitute for a warrant. This means, that with the exception of emergency situations, they must have a court or other legal body providing some form of a warrant or order before they can search or seize us. But instead, they just tell us to appear.
I also used chapter 77, 18 u.s.c. 1589 FORCED LABOR statute to describe my enslavement and involuntary servitude. The statute states, Whoever knowingly provides or obtains the labor or services of a person by any one of, or by any combination of the following means, 1. By means of force, threats of force, physical restraint, or threats of physical restraint to that person or another person, 2. By means of serious harm or threats of serious harm to that person or another person, 3. By means of abuse of law or legal process, or 4. By means of any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause the person to believe that, if that person did not perform such labor or services that person or another person would suffer serious harm or physical restraint.
Now after reading just these four cases of support that Sora’s are illegal and don’t realize that we are just slaves, I would be in shock. I used hundreds of these kinds of cases in support, and even though the lower court is supposed to by law go by u.s. supreme court precedent, , they didn’t mention any of them in their response.in fact, the court fought for the two names defendants, who had to make no arguments whatsoever.
Seriously, when a law is wrong you can find all kinds of legal holes in its ruling and application. I could have destroyed their arguments when I was 12. This so called government by the people and for the people is a sham. All you have to do is look up corruption of judges on Google and YouTube and you will know how it is. It’s disgusting. So yes, involuntary servitude was tried, and completely ignored. All the judge said in the dismissal with prejudice was, “the plaintiff asserts that the NYS Sora is a form of involuntary servitude”. He also tried to claim that I asked for special solitude in my case, even when the entire preliminary order for injunction filed with the complaint used the cases cited above and the slavery and involuntary servitude causes of action.
It’s clear to me, that if you don’t have a lawyer representing you, you have no chance.i even used more stay, the case you cited above. If you live in Cali ask Janice B. To file a class action lawsuit using the argument. I can’t see why she wouldn’t. She should have run for state Senate, she would get all of our votes.
If Janice B. Wants a national level media event, I would gladly participate in an assembly in front of the u.s. supreme court in 2017 anytime or day in the summer. Because this is an all or nothing issue. If they want to increase punishment, extend supervised release, oh well. But this registration process has to go. It’s time to go national, period. If the request is made, you will see crap happening. One thing they hate is to be embarrassed and proven wrong. Please consider this Janice, your really our only hope. It’s not about supporting sex acts, It’s about the constitution, and this nation.
You know, it has become obvious to me that the registry is here to stay for a while. Oh sure, the courts will give some leeway to a lawsuit here and there, but they won’t let this new power go away. Maybe if another supreme court like the Warren Burger and Thurgood Marshall supreme court somehow shows up it might have a chance, but until then I find it highly unlikely. Just ask Janice, I’m sure she tried but no luck.
I will say this, if anyone ever bothers me again, or threatens me, or puts something in my yard and I find out who they are they will be lucky to walk away alive. I don’t care what these people say about their registries, I have a right to defend myself from predators on my property who put me in fear of my life. Like anyone else, if you are threatening my safety I have the right to destroy you. As far as I am concerned every so called normal American is a threat to my safety, and you can take that to the bank.
Ok, I’ve said all I’m going to say about the illegal side of registries. Now I want to talk about alternate solutions. Because, I want to make it clear, I do not support the abuse or harm of people. Even if I am guilty of some, just as is every person in some way, shape, or form.
People want to feel and believe they are safe from sex offenders of every kind they define as such. So they have created a registration system that essentially enslaves people, and will send them to prison that every other citizen and criminal offender can do freely, and without fear of loss of life, liberty, and property.
So here’s what you can do legally, 1. increase the duration of punishments. 2. increase terms of supervised release. 3. Maintain their public registry of sex offenders, but eliminate the participation of sex offenders, since conviction sites are also public. 4. Pass a law requiring all persons in the united states to provide DNA samples to prevent any further serial crimes, or limit them as much as possible. 5. Create a public media network that provides awareness of behaviors that may alert people to possible crimes, and to provide information about the laws of the state and to educate the public about the constitution.
These are some solutions to prevent the violation of human rights, and that will help in the prevention of further harm to our society. If you have better ideas, I would like to hear them, as long as when you are released from your sentencing contract, you are a free person again.