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House Overwhelmingly Supports Bill Subjecting Teen Sexters to 15-Years in Federal Prison

Teens who text each other explicit images could be subject to 15 years in federal prison under a new bill that just passed the House of Representatives. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), ranking member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, has called the measure “deadly and counterproductive.” Full Article

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  1. Joe123

    Psychopaths? Idiots? Who are we voting into public office? This is an OUTRAGE and a disgrace to all United States Citizens and what this country stands for. This is no longer the America that once was, that is for damn sure.

    • JohnDoeUtah

      Nothing like the Nanny state telling you how to raise your kids, next up – if you fail to report your own kids, instead of dealing with it between parents (aka being a parent), you go to jail as well.

  2. G4Change

    (At the time of this comment, the link to the article isn’t working). Based on the headline and the first few sentences, I have to say that this country is simply devolving into a pure police state. This is complete lunacy!!!

  3. The Unforgiven

    “That means if a teenager attempts to obtain a photo of sexually explicit conduct by requesting it from his teenage girlfriend, the judge must sentence that teenager to prison for at least 15 years for making such an attempt. If a teenager goads a friend to ask a teenager to take a sexually explicit image of herself, just by asking, he could be guilty of conspiracy or attempt, and the judge must sentence that teenager to at least 15 years in prison.”

    If the gender is replaced in this paragraph, as in, “..requesting it from her teenage boyfriend”, does she go to jail?

  4. Jack

    Thank god the democrats are at least open about disagreement with this nonsense though.

  5. Chris F

    Another expansion of the Legislature taking over the role of the Judiciary.

    Mandatory Minimums, as well as the entire Sex Offender Registry are diminishing the role of judges and limiting us to just two branches of government. It wouldn’t take much more effort for legislature to minimize the role of President, and have no Judicial branch left to stop them.

    If someone doesn’t get a successful challenge of separation of powers to SCOTUS soon (that covers all above issues), it will be too late.

    • Chris F

      On this same topic, here is a great article I posted a couple months ago:

      https://www.bu.edu/pilj/files/2015/09/19-2RileyNote.pdf

      It is called “TRIAL BY LEGISLATURE: WHY STATUTORY
      MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES VIOLATE THE
      SEPARATION OF POWERS DOCTRINE” by KIERAN RILEY.

      • AJ

        @Chris F
        +1 on the Riley document. I think you also posted the one about Bills of Attainder being the new currency challenging the Constitution. That was a very good find and read, too. Thanks for it all.

        –AJ

  6. AlexO

    This is just pure evil. KIDS HAVE NO IDEA THESE THINGS ARE LAWS! Hell, I’d be willing to bet it comes as huge news to nearly all the parents.

    Maybe it will take this huge overreach to finally topple this entire house of cards.

  7. steve

    The guy is quoting scripture. And we thought the only religious fanaticism was in the Middle East. I’m sure he’ll be caught with child porn eventually. When will they get, that this, is this generations version of playing doctor.

  8. HOOKSCAR

    So, I have a 15 year old son. Let’s just say he has a girlfriend. Now let’s get his girlfriend a new bathing suit. She sends him a picture of her in the bathing suit, but she is doing a Marilyn Monroe pose. Seeing as bathing suits are like underwear, can my son do time for an innocent picture? Remember, laws are based on interpretation. Slippery slope turned into a slipnslide.

    • lovewillprevail

      In response to Hookscar…if you are in Texas, starting 9/1/17, what you stated is actually a penal code crime subject to sex offender registration. If the picture of your 15 year old son’s girlfriend in her new one piece bathing suit is deemed provocative by law enforcement, these kids are now sex offenders. Another great law just authored and passed by the Texas Republicans. Most all bad laws in Texas are authored and passed by Republicans. And they don’t care if the laws are even constitutional. So Texas is already one step ahead of the federal government in your hypothetical situation. In Texas we are already pass that slippery slope.

      • AJ

        It’s this kind of completely crazy situation that will, in time, play to our favor. It’s only when the general public wakes up and goes “WTF!!??” will some of these laws stop happening and get reined in. There are going to be quite a few teenaged RCs before any change occurs. Best thing that can happen is if it’s the Governor’s kid, or the Speaker’s kid, etc. Unless/until the legislators and/or general public are hit where it hurts (i.e. personal stake), little change will occur.

        –AJ

  9. AJ

    “Supporters of the legislation said there’s no reason to think that federal prosecutors will use the bill against teen sexters, since they have not done so in the past.”
    Yeah, I want to hang my hat on this notion. Riiight. “Trust us, it won’t ever happen that way.” Good thing there aren’t any jackbooted thugs in DoJ (*cough* Sessions *cough*).

    Hopefully the Senate will stop this nonsense. That’s the only hope, as you know WH will sign it.

    Did any of you happen to read the story linked at the bottom of this one? (http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/04/prosecutor-wants-to-charge-14-year-old-g)
    Good thing she did this last year, or she could be the first 15-year minimum test case.

    Go back to 2015, and you can find an even more ridiculous case. (http://www.essence.com/2015/09/22/huh-north-carolina-teen-couple-faces-felony-charges-sexting-photos-themselves) The charges were (wisely) dropped, but NC was going to try a boy and a girl as adults for sexting pictures of minors. The minors were themselves! So they were both adults and minors at the same time!?!?? That makes perfect sense. Nope, nobody will use this Federal legislation willy-nilly if/when it becomes law.

    The laws have gotten so so far out of hand, and the judiciary is so slow and behind the curve on dealing with them. It’s only getting worse, and legislators (including Congress) know that it’s too expensive for most to fight the case, even if in the right.

    –AJ

  10. David

    My sense of the absurd finds this to be hilarious! I really, really, REALLY can’t wait to see the sh#t hit the fan when little Bobby and little Becky, son and daughter of their moron constituents, end up facing 15 years in federal prison for sexting!
    Then what??
    Still, it’s okay for Dennis Hastert to go free, right?
    Absolutely umbelievable!

  11. lovewillprevail

    Well lets hope that this horrible bill passes the Senate and becomes law. And let’s hope that thousands of teenagers are sent to federal prison for 15 years. What a f__king waste of my tax dollars, and more importantly, the lives of teenagers. The only way to get changes to stupid sex offender laws is to get thousands of angry parents involved or for sons/daughters of legislators to get caught up in the system. Is the private prison system behind these mandatory minimum sentencing pushes, whether it be drug or sex offenses? Hell is too good for these greedy XXXs.

  12. Think about this....

    Actually, the first time one of the Congressional or Senatorial people as a parent have to deal with this because their child is caught up will really be the time the poo hits the fan. Just like when their child has a drug offense make the news, this will, too, make the news. Then what will happen? The elected official will need to stand by the law, not their child, so they can show they are not above the law.

  13. David

    So heres a scenario: LE find pictures on a 15-year old’s cell phone and then, using a very broad warrant, they search ALL the cell phones of ALL the students in that school or even in that District by claiming they found a child porn ring and by using a very broad search warrant. (See the link below.) http://bigthink.com/natalie-shoemaker/edward-snowden-believes-we-have-returned-to-the-1760s-under-the-amended-rule-41

  14. Saddened

    All great points with only the thought that there is no way anyone in power would ever have their kids prosecuted. They are too well connected. A backdoor deal would be reached, money change hands and our assumed martyr set free. I have zero faith in this idea.

    For years I was a conservative. I have no faith in our system. We have been sold a bill of goods. Our country has been taken from us. Only a revolution can return us to our constitutional roots. I doubt that will ever happen so its just a matter of time before Nazi Germany will begin to look good to us by comparison.

    I love my country. Fought for it. Served my community. I no longer recognize my goverment as an entity that serves its citizens. I am completely disillusioned.

    • Mike G

      I am saddened to agree, Saddened. No kid with connected parents would ever be prosecuted. No point holding our collective breath for someone to realize it is overkill, since there is so much overkill already in the legal system, and no one is bothered by it until they are personally caught up in it, and then it is too late.

      I still remain conservative about most things, but the legal system is a big exception for me. I strongly disagree with mandatory minimum sentences, but I also disagree with overly liberal judges that give slaps on the wrist to serious criminals. I wrote a paper many years ago, the premise being that sentences that will have a major effect on someone’s life should be determined by a panel of judges (at least three or more), after considering the seriousness of the crime, the damage done to victims (if any), restitution (if possible), past criminal record, the likelihood of recidivism, the remorse factor, etc. In other words, COMMON SENSE. Preferably, this panel would represent a cross-section of the public at large.

      Sadly, our legal system has become a vehicle for those in power to stay in power by playing off of the emotions of the public through the media, seldom letting all the facts of the case come out.

  15. mike r

    lawmakers no longer have anything to do except to find ways to harass US citizens and to figure out ways to squeeze every penny they can from each and every one of us. That’s now their jobs..

  16. DPH

    Countless LIVES are going to be lost over this, teens taking their own and others years or days later after being registered for Sexting, give up…and may no longer be a productive citizen(person) in Society.
    Not well thought, Thanks be to Sheila for speaking up and wish she had been heard before the vote.
    Deadly and counterproductive is just the start. Sad our Fed Gov. is out of touch of reality and social media.
    It’s sends WORSE than a Message.

  17. Harry

    The Federal Pen need younger and more workers for their “Prison Blues” jeans business.

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