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Canada: Polygraph for pedophiles – how virtual reality is used to assess sex offenders

In a maximum security mental health facility in Montreal is a “cave-like” virtual reality vault that’s used to show images of child sexual abuse to sex offenders. Patients sit inside the vault with devices placed around their penises to measure signs of arousal as they are shown computer-generated animations of naked children. Full Article

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  1. wonderin

    Nothing new here. This peter-meter was used over 50 years ago here in California.

  2. Registry Rage

    Again, we see the word “pedophile” used interchangeably with SO. This is the equivalent of saying all Muslims are terrorists.

    What I find most disturbing and outrageous is that they actually think this is a credible science.

    • AlexO

      From the article. They’re actually talking about pedophiles and/or people with severe abuse.

      “Not all child molesters are pedophiles (people who are sexually attracted to children) and not all pedophiles molest children, although the terms are often wrongly used interchangeably. In many cases, those who molest children are “situational offenders”, which means their offense is outside of their typical sexual preference or behavior.”

      The treatment group I attended uses the PPG (Penile plethysmography) as part of treatment. But it’s done for treatment purposes only and not submitted to court (its kept confidential). Its primary use is for the therapist to know how to properly help the person. Though ours isn’t nearly as high tech. You’re basically watching a video with audio with various voice tones. Non of the images contain nudity.

      It’s mentally extremely uncomfortable.

    • David Kennerly, Thought Criminal

      And again we see the word “violent” being used to describe any pedophilic sexual act.

      “It’s not easy for someone to discover he is attracted to violently molesting a kid.” As if “violence” is what is being measured when showing static computer graphic images of youngsters and as if “violence” is innate in such behaviors.

      Arguably, the only thing they are measuring are responses to computer graphic images.

      There is nothing scientific about anything these people are doing.

      • AlexO

        It doesn’t mention in the article, but our programs PPG used audio with the video. You’d watch a still image and listen to two sets of audio. The audio was a person speaking to the person in the image. One was violent/coercive and the other “normal”. So it did measure if you were triggered by the coercive side.

  3. Chris F

    Doesn’t Canada using virtual child porn for any means affect the case they have against the guy that imported a child like sex doll?

    On that, they claim anything virtual should count as real porn no matter what. But on this its ok? Contradiction?

    • AlexO

      Sort of. Law enforcement and many other agencies often have access to tools that are not legal to civilians. For example, law enforcement obviously has people downloading and viewing CP which is completely illegal, but its legal in the course of their work. Likewise with this program. Now if someone at the agency were using this tool in a private capacity, then it would be an issue.

  4. Political Prisoner

    This would be like putting a alcoholic in a room full of booze and say we are just assess you if you like booze. The UK has outlawed Japanese Anime and they are not real people but only cartoon drawings.

    • AlexO

      This tool is more to access the persons specific attractions. The article mentions (truthfully) that many SO’s are crimes of opportunity and often one-ofs. So when going into treatment it’s important to know if the person is a true pedophile or serial rapist in order to properly treat them. Using your example, it would be like trying to gauge which booze in particular the alcoholic goes for.

  5. C

    I wonder if the developers have used the device on themselves and if they’d be willing to publish the results?

  6. T

    Calling someone a “pedophile” is like calling a black man the N word to make him feel bad about himself and what he has done. And to put someone in a polygraph for exploitation is doing nothing good but fuel hypocrisy.

  7. David

    If this were used on a person, he was eventually released, then commits a crime that the researchers “put in his head”, I would think there would be an excellent case for suing the $$$ out of them!
    Or maybe we should take further: use it on everyone …starting in their teen years! Catch “it” early, right? Public at large, here it comes!

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