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Criminal justice leaders seek to end lifetime registry for low-risk sex offenders in California

It’s been nearly four decades since a 25-year-old Frank Lindsay landed on California’s sex offender registry after he pleaded no contest to improperly touching a girl under 14.

He has not committed another crime since then, but state law requires Lindsay’s name to remain on the registry, which the public can see on government websites, for the rest of his life. Full Article

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Sad that oncefallen felt the need to attack Janice and ACSOL publicly in his comments on that article. His public criticism only hurts all of our various efforts of reform.

Sounded more like he was voicing his opinion to me rather than “attack”ing.

I don’t agree. I think that he has every right and even an obligation to share his thoughts on the subject. I may not agree with him but his observations on the Registry are not without merit. I’m certainly of two minds about the proposed tiered registry although I believe that it is what little we can conceivably expect at this time and am willing to give it a go. As I’ve always said, it will pass or not pass, regardless of what Registrants want. It’s not worth creating a full-blown schism over it.

I often don’t agree with things he says on YouTube or other websites, but I would never make a negative comment about him on those websites because any negative comments about registration reform can only hurt public opinion about all of us and our advocacy for reforms.

I’m not objecting to his criticism on this or any subject, I’m objecting to criticism posted on sites read mostly by non registrants. All negative comments on other sites can affect the general public’s opinions and support for any other reform issues we want to support. We should at least keep the bickering among our own group. We are striving to get public support for registration reforms so we should keep our comments supportive for reforms and ACSOL’s efforts to make these reforms. We don’t have to all agree on ACSOL’s efforts to pass the tiered registry, but all of our lives would be much harder if it wasn’t for all the wonderful work this organization has done for us here in CA. Yes, we all prefer the registry to be abolished, but that just isn’t going to happen right now. Instead of complaining about the concept of a tiered registry, lets keep the discussion about what changes the bill needs to become better for us. The chances of it passing is politically slim anyway.

You do realize he prefaced his concerned with a historical example that the state pushed the goal post in NY, correct?

If anything, he does give readers some context that many have not known before.

“Overhauled?” This is ludicrous. The registry should be completely done away with, as it has never served or functioned as intended. It would seem lies are now accepted truth and the truth is simply ignored.

LTL, You are arguing LOGIC and facts, but those are secondary to the EMOTIONS–primarily fear–driving the public and politicians to make bad registrant laws. It is magical thinking to say that everyone will suddenly see the error of their ways and dump the registry if you can just pile enough facts on their heads. You have to address their fear.

Incremental change is how civil rights have always happened in this country and around the world. Idealism without a practical, real-world plan will fail.

Come to Sacramento and see how to initiate REAL change by letting politicians see our faces. Just sitting at our computers debating back and forth among ourselves won’t do much.

Wonderful news! Finally a route off the registry. Face it, the registry is here to stay. These changes/reforms will at least create an end and way off.

I think this is exactly what was needed and frankly am shocked it passed. It is hopeful to see some facts and reason used instead of raw illogical emotions.

This was long overdue and hopefully the remaining states such as Florida will follow the same path and offer light at the end of a dark tunnel and end the cruel lifetime punishment now in place!

Way to go California!

I don’t believe it’s here to stay, but it will probably be around for a good while longer. It would be nice to be able to get off before the big collapse of it all. Remember, no matter how strongly people believe about something, it eventually changes. When interracial marriage was finally legalized, the majority of the country still thought it was a bad idea to allow it. And today’s SCOTUS unanimous ruling against social media ban is a very strong first step towards reform as a whole.

I was watching KRON 4 news this morning. The change in registration (SB421) was mentioned briefly. The news announcer commented on how a convicted sex offender can live next door and you would not know it. The spin starts.

That’s why I hate the media …media plays an awful spin on things …look Registry sucks If we’re gonna have a registry go after the real pedophiles not the people that slept with 16 year old and they WERE 17, piss in apark ,moon somebody or this is the big one when they say they were rape or Sexually touched and lied to get even with an x boy friend ….this only make the people WHO REALLY HAVE GOTTEN SEXUALLY TOUCHED OR RAPE it makes it hard on them to come out AND REALLY TURN IN THE REAL PEFOPHILES….THE SEXOFFENDER Destroys the Falsely accused and their families

The comments section is an eye opening read.

A commenter stated, I’m paraphrasing, “they’re going to let these sex offenders go free?!”

See, that’s a problem. Once you’re out of custody, you’re already a free person. But the registry posits it differently. Here, the mass public believes we’re not free. Despite many on the comments section countering with, “if they’re that dangerous, then how are they let out of jail?”

The dichotomy is astounding. The public sees sex offenders as still being punished as they’re not free, but those sex offenders are no longer in jail. Apparently, the public doesn’t comprehend that a sex offender has already paid their dues to society and are still being forced to serve the state after their dues have been paid.

Hmmm… that would be an interesting project. Have a camera crew go around the state of California and ask people, “If you’ve paid your due to your crime, then should you continue to serve the state?”

It’s an innocuous question.

Then follow up with:

“Are you a free person again after you’ve paid your debt to society, but are still forced to serve the state?”


“Would you consider it unconstitutional to force you to serve the state after you’ve paid your debt to society?”

Then start asking congressmen and congresswomen. Afterwards, ask lawyers. Ask judges.

I’d really like to hear what many people would say. Remember, don’t divulge anything related to the registry or sex offenders. That way you’re positing a question for any crime.

Comments like the ones you describe make me think of comments I’ve seen regarding Brock Turner’s case. Everyone has been up in arms about the jail time but not seeing the bigger picture of his life is ruined, and being on the registry. He is being punished and didn’t really ‘get away with’ anything.

@ New Person

I must say you have made a keen observation of the Inherent Weakness of the Human Condition being easily manipulated by the Slight of Hand in the act of Omission of Base Facts of a Issue or Subject.

I encourage you to move forward with your Innocuous Project.

As Yehovah Lives, so should we

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