NJ: How the new ‘child erotica’ law might help stop sex predators

[nj.com]

A new law that further defines child pornography and more heavily prosecutes those who distribute and possess it went into effect recently, and law enforcers are hoping it’ll help keep offenders behind bars.

The legislation effectively closes a gap where possessors of “child erotica” — photos or videos of children who are being portrayed sexually or exploited — but aren’t necessarily nude, wasn’t considered child pornography.

They are now.

The law was signed by Gov. Chris Christie in July 2017 and went into effect Feb. 1. Officials say it’ll help keep more predators behind bars and could help stop some from carrying out hands-on offenses.

And there’s more to it beyond child erotica.

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I guess they are going after all those parents of toddlers in tiaras exploiting their children in beauty pagents now. If the bill is passed it will likely ensnare more children and teens from selfie images than adults. Just posing with a group of friends on a beach in ones bathing suit could be risky and risqué.

I have always thought that they eventually want everyone in the system so they can demoralize and control the population. They better be careful- if everyone is on a registry ( or even multiple registries) then they won’t be able to divide and conquer as well.

This is another example of a fine LOSER Chris Christie… making shirtless pics of my kid a crime ! SCREW YOU Chris Christie, you need to be booted out of office loser. Just cause someone has a shirtless pic of a kid it isnt child porn ! What about all the pics that are taken of kids at the waterpark ? going to prosecute all of them parents ? omg hurry close down the waterparks in NJ, then again NJ… a blightfull area as heard on tv… and look who lives there…Chris Christie

Im thinking about the movie “Taxi Driver”

Three thoughts: 1. How are they going to determine what each person, individually, finds erotic? 2. What about the opposite – adult women dressed in skimpy school girl attire – will that be illegal? Wouldn’t that also entice of your to look for actual photos of school girls? 3. Will we soon have “government-certified pornography” and all other pornography will be uncertified and illegal?
So now we have “Neo-Pures” – the new Puritans – similar to Neo-Cons?

@List everyone!! “1. How are they going to determine what each person, individually, finds erotic?”

Simple. As in the Maplethorpe obscenity case, they’ll “know it when they see it”. In other words, if the cop or the DA look at a picture of a semi-clad kid that they find in a suspect’s possession, and it turns them on, then obviously it is “child erotica”.

1. This is in conflict with federal law. Child erotica is not illegal. That said, it can be used to support an argument that someone has an interest in the sexualization of those under eighteen. How successfully this is argued will vary from case to case.

2. Child pornography need not depict anyone under eighteen partly or fully naked. Someone fully clothed in the right environment or acting inappropriately for their apparent age can easily be declared as a child pornography victim. For example a teenage girl laying on her bed fully clothed in a suggestive pose could be cp even if she took the picture herself. Maybe a teenage boy who took a selfie wearing only a towel pointing with one hand towards his crotch in the bathroom might also be cp. Of course the best example I’ve heard to date was a completely non sexual photo of a girl who was identified as a victim of child pornography in the database maintained by the national center for missing and exploited children. In that particular case the government argued someone was in possession of child pornography because the images they had (despite not being sexual at all) were themselves child pornography because later images in the same set (which this defendant didn’t have or know about) had been classified as cp.

So I guess the feds are going to shut down Madison Avenue, Hollywood, and the music industry. I’m thinking Britney spears, Miley Cirus, Kendal Jenner, and so many more all under 18, all highly suggestive. Recall the early Jordace commercials with Brooke Shields? Prison time for all!!! This should be interesting with all the lawsuits and appeals. But the sad thing is, the justice system doesn’t care of all the collateral damage, it keeps lawyers and judges in work and prisons full. That is what matters.

I think that we can assume that this will be one of the most selectively enforced laws in existence. This is legislation whose prosecutorial appeal is to convict those they feel sure possess unacceptable “thoughts” and who they would otherwise be unable to ensnare and throw into a cage. This is the quintessence of “thought crime.”

Wow, I had always heard that even child nudity wasn’t CP unless they were engaged in some kind of sexual pose or act.
With this law, any law enforcement person could look at ANY photo of a child and say “She (or he) looks sexy.” And possession would automatically become illegal.

“Officials say it’ll help keep more predators behind bars and could help stop some from carrying out hands-on offenses.” Well, since that is complete and utter Bullsh*t, because actual science has never found such correlation, they should stop lying through their asses and call this what it is: “More ways to keep Jails and Prisons full”. Disgusting morons. People like this should be locked up, lying through their teeth to US citizens, giving them a sense of false security, making the prosecutors look good with easy-breezy convictions. How about they help solve REAL CRIME, SINCE OVER 50% OF ALL CRIMES ARE NEVER RESOLVED.

I was caught up in “non-nude” underage child erotica 12 years ago. My case was unique and in the grey area of the law. The material was non-nude but because the way they were posed and the outfits they wore were considered sexual in nature, I was convicted. (See Dost Factors) I was sentenced to 5 years time, 5 years probation.

All that is behind me now, but my question about this new law is this: Do underage photos that DO NOT contain sexually explicit conduct are now considered illegal? In other words, let’s say you started a website that featured photos of minors dressed in everyday clothing and posing. Then you marketed that website towards people that enjoy looking at minors. Would these photos now become illegal? If this is true, any photo of a minor can become illegal…but how a court prove these photos are for sexual gratification?

By the way, this comment is not true because I’m proof of being convicted of this back in 2006. They did call it child pornography.

“photos or videos of children who are being portrayed sexually or exploited — but aren’t necessarily nude, wasn’t considered child pornography.”

How can this country continually think of new ways to mark its citizens as defective and throw them away?. Soon we’ll have a quarter of the population in prison or unable to be employed because of a past transgression. This will drag down the holier than thou others who managed to escape the traps, often just by grace of position, not necessarily virtue. Many of those will be older baby boomers who can’t support themselves either. As we ratchet up the prison population, all the other measures of a civilized country are declining, except the income of the upper 1 percent. You care about children, invest in ways to keep us from being near the bottom in infant mortality, poverty and education compared to other developed countries.

The perfect crime… for the government: “Trust us. It was naughty.”