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The Effectiveness of Sex Offender Treatment Programs

[sosen.org – 3/11/19]

An article posted in the Daily Mail on June 24 2016 caught my eye, why?, because it’s something that I have been saying for years and nobody has been listening to. So here is the link to the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4635876/Scandal-100million-sex-crime-cure-hubs.html and some of the basic information that is in the article, “The scandal of the sex crime ‘cure’ hubs: How minister buried report into £100million prison programme to treat paedophiles and rapists that INCREASED reoffending rates”.

Sex Offender Treatment Programme is psychological group-therapy course
Believed to have cost taxpayers over £100 million since it was set up in 1991
Prisoners who take the rehabilitation courses are at least 25 per cent more likely to be convicted of further sex crimes than those who do not.
Paedophiles convicted of attacking children are especially likely to offend”

It should be noted that this is from a British newspaper, but the programs that are run in the United States are a mirror image of the program that was run in Britain, a program that has now been found to have such a devastating result on the people that participated in it, as well as the community. The article that follows is one that was posted on SOSEN in April of last year. I will include the links to a couple other articles about treatment providers and treatment that is forced by our government without any consideration to people’s constitutional rights upon people on the registry or any consideration if the programs are effective at reducing the re-offense rate Http://sosen.org/blog/2016/04/28/sex-offender-treatment-a-legal-extortion-business.html , as well as Http://sosen.org/blog/2015/05/02/prediction-of-dangerousness-length-of-treatment-and-psychological-damage.html, also this one on how treatment providers have used their suppose it expertise to cause damage to disfavored groups that they have chosen to devalue: Http://sosen.org/blog/2016/05/15/history-repeats-itself-the-shameful-tactics-of-pseudo-science-and-legislative-action.html It is quite obvious that these supposed experts are not that and that their programs are causing damage not only to the people taking them and their family members as well future victims, but also to the community at large.

One of the things that everyone seems to be missing is these same experts in sex offender treatment are also the same ones that are treating the victims. If their theories are so wrong on how to treat the offenders how much damage have they been doing to the victims? Especially when the crimes involve family members, perhaps it’s time to have some type of watchdog group that is not made up of therapists and psychiatrists and psychologists to oversee and look into if there is damage being done to the victims of these crimes by the therapists and treatment providers who are supposed to be helping these people. Or are the treatment providers just imposing their own viewpoints on to the victims to justify their mistreatment of the perpetrators of the crime.

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I’ve been trying for years to get the point across that sex-offender treatment professionals, sex-offender ‘defense’ opinion doctors etc etc have a vested interest in severe sex offender laws etc etc because that is their income. I have never seen in NY any well known, respected or probation used sex-offender treatment professional make any attempt to dispute legislation. It is against their financial interest to do so.

While treatment programs might help some people. Overall they’re worthless in they do nothing to help those on the registry get off it, especially anyone labeled tier III due to their conviction. Tier III says you were either diagnosed or was convicted of a particular crime, but the crime in itself should NOT mean you’re going to reoffend, which is the case with most people wrongly labeled Tier III. Having sex with a 13 year old vs a 12 year old does NOT make one more dangerous, and is nothing more than a imaginary line one most cross to go… Read more »

It is truly just obviously idiotic that supposedly people need therapy if they commit a $EX crime but not for any other crime. The whole thing is nothing but plain theft. People stealing money because they can. I do expect they would force therapy onto anybody else if they were able.

This is common sense since the participants are in these groups talking about raping children which would subconsciously normalize this in offenders with proclivities to commit these types of crimes. This is interesting because this is exactly what I told my mandatory psychologist after two of the mandatory sessions that I attended. I straight told him I did not want to be involved in that crap and that I did not know if I could even sit in there and listen to that crap. I told him that those sessions are not going to help anyone and will increase the… Read more »

Many of those that are “treatment providers”for these groups also hold positions of authority on the Sex Offender Treatment Boards in their states, these are the boards responsible for dictating treatment.

The philosophy of those boards clearly state that they are there for the support and recovery of the victims and not the offenders.

How in the hell can you be treating registrants that you are admitting to being biased against?

This is not treatment, it boarders on malpractice.

The issue with mandated treatment is that it treats the crime, not whatever underlying psychological issue contributed to the criminal behavior (if any psychological issue even existed). It’s the end result of the legislative and judicial system intruding into the medical system and using it as another form of monitoring and social control. Unrelated rant about my court-ordered therapist in NY: Our groups usually had around 15 attendees in a given 45 min session. There was no way to individualize treatment or to have a consistent focus on any one group member’s issue. Given that treatment is legislated for people… Read more »

I currently attend treatment, I’ve gone through two different providers, come rain or shine, holiday or not I’ve attended over 103 sessions at $35.00 a pop, I’ve passed all my polygraphs, static 99 is zero, LCMI very low, but when I ask my treatment provider if I can get a recommendation to be cleared they say no. Why because my plea doesn’t say the amount of time I need to go, but other probationers have 52 week programs mantdated by the court. I was told day one that this is treatment is NOT therapy it’s designed for the probationer to… Read more »

People in ca treatment are not being evaluated for completion, Contrary to a 2018 casomb development of Guidelines for completion mirroring atsa standards.

I haven’t found anyone willing help motivate a change. Becuase…. all of us are on some sort of probations/supervised release.

How many sessions have you all been forced to attend weekly?
I bet I’ve got you all beat. Many, many years of weekly and many, many, many, many thousands of dollars and only 5 years of probation (mandatory treatment) to go!! Cp conviction ny. Nothing remarkable about it.

Ours was three years of weekly group meetings $50 each (150 in all) and 50 one-on-one meetings at $90 each. Between these and the various state mandated testing, I probably spent about $15k in the three years. But I actually really liked our counselor and all of this was helpful to me. It probably helped that our focus in general (me and others) wasn’t solely on our crimes, but our lives in general. We constantly tried to get at the core of what issues in our lives lead us to do what we did and how we can recognize and… Read more »

How much money is involved? Well, this is just the treatment for federal SO offenders.
A23: The total award amounts (by catchment area) are listed below:
Santa Barbara & Ventura Counties $329,316.00
San Fernando & Santa Clarita Valleys $337,236.00 & $346,500.00
AntelopeValley (including Lancaster/Palmdale) $314,916.00
Greater LA County (excluding Antelope, San
Fernando & Santa Clarita Valleys
$1,365,672.00 & $1,559,448.00
& $2,282,532.00
Orange County $884,688.00
Greater San Bernardino County (Excluding
Victorville, Apple, Lucerne & Yucca Valleys)
$342,912.00
South Riverside County $253,440.00
Victorville, and Apple, Lucerne and Yucca
Valleys
$395,040.00
Riverside/ Low Desert $358,242.00

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