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Rep. Smith Meets With Trump; Says Int’l Megan’s Law Is Working

Your local congressman, Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ4) held a press conference with U.S. Dept. of Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Tuesday, where he talked about the success of his 2008 bill, International Megan’s law. Full Article

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So not allowing people to travel, people who have paid there debt to society and met every condition of the judicial system, means it is working? It does not list a statistic of people on the registry that were convicted of reoffending overseas, and we all know that if that statistic was even remotely concerning it would have been in the headline.

How about a law that says any politician falsely presenting information to the public can never be involved in politics again, Now that would give us some results.

Smith has effectively combined sex offense against children and sex and labor trafficking in the same bucket. Sex offense are primarily against children that child knows and sex and labor trafficking are commercial sex and labor activities that are product of drug trafficking gamesters. IML does nothing to protect anyone in then sex and labor trafficking as Mr. Smith claims.

This statement says it all,
“The law is working,” said Rep. Smith this week. “In just about two years, 10,541 covered sex offenders had been noticed by the U.S. government to foreign countries — and 3,681 individuals as of July who were convicted of sex crimes against children were denied entry into those nations.”

Yes it is working perfectly just as they planned, further punishing and shaming and disenfranchising with no public safety benefit needed.

That is a 34.92% rate of returning those who have been identified back to the USA so they cannot enter another country. Would be interesting to know where these denials happened overseas to see a pattern of countries, etc. Shame on Smith who thinks this is acceptable since he is not aware of why they were traveling in the first place.

Except if you’re wealthy like Jeffrey Epstein – then you can come and go from wherever you like whenever you wish with no problem at all.

I hope to train a registrant or their family member that lives in NJ. to resource the community via local salons and barber shops to remove Mr. Smith from office. my contact is fixurshears@gmail.com

We cannot allow politicians like Chris Smith to control the narrative that IML is working and promote stereotyping of Registrants. He may be influential but he is only one voice. We have collectively hundreds of thousands of voices that can drown out his by putting out YouTube videos educating the unitiated masses, podcasts to put a humanizing voice of Registrants, writing letters to our local politicians to show that we are a political force to be reckon with. These campaigns to repress our Constitutional rights are only made by a small group of politicians and law enforcement seeking to promote… Read more »

Absolutely. Decent people don’t support Registries. That needs to be repeated every time it is discussed.

People who are listed on the hit list are not “$EX offenders”. They are just People Forced to Register. By illegal, illegitimate criminal regimes that pay scumbags like Chris Smith.

Does the scumbag have a Twitter account? We should bury it.

crickets………………………

We need to target our opposition and simply use our local unconstitutional registry list to our advantage by recruiting more people to join in the fight. Find a wayward politician target their seat and remove them via in salon/barbrr shop give- aways in the name of a more reasonable candidate. I have fone this and it WORK!!! I’ll train and equip anyone willing. contact Robert at: fixurshears@,gmail.com

The entire line of reasoning confuses me.

– They don’t want them out in public because of the supposed threat registrants pose.

– They don’t want them in prison for life because of prison population.

– They supposedly don’t want them to be homeless because it makes it too difficult to “track” them (read: watch them do nothing).

– Most want registrants to die (and die slowly, at that), yet they won’t give the death penalty.

So what exactly is the purpose of preventing registrants from leaving the country?

Basically it is to give Mr. Smith low hanging fruit victories to put in his portfolio for the voters. He knows noone will vote against his bills at risk of political suicide.

“The law is working,” said Rep. Smith this week. “In just about two years, 10,541 covered sex offenders had been noticed by the U.S. government to foreign countries — and 3,681 individuals as of July who were convicted of sex crimes against children were denied entry into those nations.” Talk about misleading statistics!! The way they worded this makes the uneducated believe that 3,681 were “convicted of sex crimes against children” while traveling overseas. A bunch of crap! What it is saying that of the 10,541 covered offenders 3,681 were convicted of sex crimes against children before they even went… Read more »

To bad that the ball was drop on the IML lawsuit and we have to go through this.

What lawsuit?

As I recall it: the court felt the lawsuit was premature because IML and uniquely identified passports had not yet been implemented. Therefore, plaintiffs had no standing to sue as they had not (yet) suffered any harm as a result of the new law.

@Dustin It’s disturbing isn’t it for what passes for reasoning? Chris Smith is selling snake oil to the unitiated because of this misleading and derogatory label of $ex offender. Most people don’t know how many types of offenses can land an individual into this label. Most people only assume the worst stereotype: child mole$ter or rapi$t. It is in these marginal recesses of ignorance that these politicians thrive on to mount their campaigns to create policies that will make them look good for re-election. If we take away the myths and outright lies about us Registrants by voicing ourselves in… Read more »

You Tube influence:
ACSOL’s most popular video, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxJiEHpwuHGRaJsRVBPU0qg/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid has 828 views.

NARSOL’s Registry Matters most popular video, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzJUNV3PqC6v92ngq2FXVjg/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid has 475 views.

I am not against viewing and posting comments on these videos or any others. I have searched the term “sex offender” on You Tube videos DAILY for some time and have very few comments to my posts promoting advocacy and/or correct statistics.

In no way am I suggesting one doesn’t post a video advocating for us nor commenting on existing videos, it just seems that this avenue is minuscule.

With almost a million Registrants and only an average of 425 views on youtube another avenue that would generate more impressive numbers is definitely needed.

@R M Despair not the low views of the videos. There is nothing that snazzy graphics, bite sized sound bytes, a bit of music, and TED talk style format can’t bring those views up. We just need the right video artist in our corner to make our cause viral. Each and every one of us Registrants have some kind of gift or unique skill set to contribute to our collective cause. Maybe it’s computer programming, medicine, accounting, speaking, writing, plumbing, fork lifting, and so on… Some of us were lawyers, even law enforcement, and law makers! Our past stupidity not… Read more »

Some of us were teachers, professional speakers, and motivational speakers too….

Need to create informative, educational, and engaging informational segments for the general public to learn the truth from.

One tiny little detail that Rep. Smith is leaving out: He has no idea what the intent of these people was when they were denied travel. And neither does anybody else. He is making the assumption that because somebody is a registrant, that any time they travel, they intend to commit a crime. And the overwhelming majority of both the professional liars, and the voters who put them in office, never bother to question what he is spewing. In fact, it never even occurs to them to challenge what he is saying.

@Matt

Then it is up to us to challenge what Chris Smith has said. His singular voice though influential can be drowned out by the 900,000+ voices of Registrants!

@Matt what you said – “He has no idea what the intent of these people was when they were denied travel. And neither does anybody else. He is making the assumption that because somebody is a registrant, that any time they travel, they intend to commit a crime” You are absolutely right in this statement. The wording was purposely formulated in this context to force the uneducated to automatically assume that these 3K+ registrants traveled over seas and committed s$x crimes and were convicted of those crimes. Perfect example of how to structure a sentence to instill false thoughts in… Read more »

***”We know from law enforcement and media documentation that Americans on the U.S. sex offender registries are caught sexually abusing children in Asia, Central and South America, Europe, and, frankly, everywhere,” [Smith] continued.***

Really?

I haven’t even heard of one recent case. Have you? He has “stats” on everything else; where are the stats on this claim?

Just ask his office in WDC and NJ to provide the stats he references. If they cannot or will not, then he is bluffing and can be called out on them publicly where he should be challenged.

Just another Representative with a crystal ball, certain that all registrants only want to travel to engage in illicit sex. Just the facts sir. You’ve done nothing but prevent many good people who have already served their sentences, people who would like to travel for the same reasons most people travel, vacation, adventure, culture, etc, from living their best lives. This representative is promoting to the public that these laws are stopping “human-trafficking,” insinuating that all those on the registry are somehow involved in human-trafficking. It’s sad that these kinds of people get elected and lie to the public with… Read more »

President Trump signed a EO yesterday but the text of that EO isn’t on the Federal Registry yet. I’m very interested in reading what it says.

@MLinCA:
Why wait for the Federal Register? EOs are available from the WH directly: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

When I was in the 4th or 5th grade, I mocked a fat girl whom I apologized to several years later after realizing the harm I did by bullying her.
Does that make me a bully?
I used to gamble when I couldn’t afford to lose before I saw the errors of my ways.
Does that make me a compulsive gambler?
Should our every bad deed label us for life with the assumption we can’t learn and grow into a better person?

I emailed Rep Chris Smith through his website https://chrissmith.house.gov/contact/ . He only allows those in his district an opinion. Use zip 08527, address noneyourbusiness or anything, city noneyourbusiness or anything.

Mr Smith, the article at https://patch.com/new-jersey/middletown-nj/rep-chris-smith-says-intl-megans-law-working is highly misleading to the public.

You do not state how many previously convicted of a sex crime have committed a new sex offense via international travel.

I believe and suspect that you do too, that very few previously convicted of a sex crime have gone on to commit another sex crime. Statistics show 95+% never do.

Regards,
[me]

@R M

Use snail mail also so it is received in person and read at his WDC and NJ offices. Flood them.

@ R M: When attempting to correspond with legislators whose email system only allows those from their own constituency district to contact them, I will typically use their own local office address as my own. So, for example, if their office is 100 Main Street, Hackensack, New Jersey 02993 then I simply use that as my address when writing to them. Or just pick up any address & zip code from there legislative district and use that. It’s an easy way to get through a system which might otherwise exclude you. Good luck!

I’ve found that sending a written letter via the US Mail to be much more effective, especially for representatives that employ email filtering methods.

In general, anything arriving in written form receives more attention, especially today when nearly everything comes in via electronic format. The next best is fax.

Rep Smith is from NJ, right? So why doesn’t someone asked about the 20-year study done by NJ and the Bureau of Justice that stated there was no difference in recidivism 10 years before the registry was created and 10 years after it was created. The conclusion was it was a waste of time, money, and resources along with the recidivism rates were low. I used to have the link of the abstract from the National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS) about the 20-year study. But I do have an article referencing it from the National Institute of Justice. NIJ… Read more »

I think we can use his affinity with the Trump administration to get him out of office once and for all now. Gotta make it clear to the public the guy’s a misogynist.

@Jack

How so? Voting record shows his affinity? Talking to POTUS on this topic he champions makes him a misogynist?

Only logic I used was the guy likes Trump, and prohibiting abortion… Both are very misogynist. So yeah his voting record speaks to that.

“We know from law enforcement and media documentation that Americans on the U.S. sex offender registries are caught sexually abusing children in Asia, Central and South America, Europe, and, frankly, everywhere,” he continued. For example, at least 4,500 U.S. passports were issued to registered sex offenders in fiscal year 2008 alone, he said. Also, a passport is typically valid for 10 years.” Wow, serious non sequitur there!! What the Hell does the issuance of U.S. passports have to do with sex crimes?? Not to mention the duration of a passport’s validity….. How does that relate to international sex crimes in… Read more »

I am going to make it my civil duty to find dirt on this p.o.s.

He seems rather homophobic as well as being a liar. He apparently told a group of same sex families hoping to adopt that instead of having them being able to bring the child home to a family that “orphanages are still an option”. Google it and you’ll find lots of drama he’s stirred up.

Just sent this to Smith’s email. Mr. Smith, You have absolutely no idea what you are doing. You have made the USA take the path of Nazi Germany with your IML law. Marking passports is like Hitler marking the Jews like me and my Grandfather. How dare you!! You have no idea what people on the S. O. registry go through. You have fostered an unconstitutional scheme that must fail and fall to scrutiny of the SCOTUS. You will lose because this is bad law. Get a clue and do the right thing. Your idea of human trafficking is warped… Read more »

@Hostage In Texas

More power to you! Tell Smith off…

If I may add one more to your letter. Print it out on paper. In fact use some cute stationary to make the letter look warm and harmless. Use a cute font for your words to bring down his defenses.

Let it throw him off as you rail him by his eyeballs, unable to tear himself away from this paradoxical letter that looks cute and harmless but is full of piss and vinegar from an angry Citizen that has had enough.

Sorry to be the one that does this, but I find he comparison between what happened to the Jews and other minorities during WWII in Nazi Germany totally different from what’s happening here. The methods being used to identify us may be the same, but there is one major place that the comparison fails. For nearly all of us, we’re in this situation because we did something that was wrong, something against the law, something that shouldn’t have been done, something that we didn’t have to do. This isn’t something that we were born into, and it isn’t something like… Read more »

@Worried, I agree with you partially and disagree as well. I agree that we all did something and I definitely see your point where it comes to Nazism not being the same. I also think when registration and things like community notification were applied to the worst offenders who did really terrible things and have proven that they are recidivists I’d had a reasonable (but arguably not useful) purpose. I say not useful because people who did such things were typically known from media reports anyway. Even people like Robert Guevara in MN is well known even though he was… Read more »

Thank you Being African American, these faulty comparisons on this forum can be a little irritating at times

“For nearly all of us, we’re in this situation because we did something that was wrong, something against the law, something that shouldn’t have been done, something that we didn’t have to do.” And how do you know this? How do you know what people have done? Do you realize that there are people who have been sent to prison for such things as kissing on the cheek, rubbing shoulders (literally), having their words grossly misinterpreted, having been set up by ex-spouses and involved in custody fights, kids interviewed for days on end and against their will by law enforcement… Read more »

What Rep. Smith needs to hear are the statistics, the real facts. The point needs to be driven home that those committing the sexual offenses abroad that he speaks of are not on the registry and have no prior convictions for sexual offenses.

Ask him: just how many of these crimes were actually perpetrated by registrants, Mr. Smith, pray tell? Show us the numbers.

@Tired

Listening, hearing, and understanding the facts would ruin Rep Smith’s narrative and the optics of him even acknowledging the facts could be bad.

He should be shown them IMO though…

@TS Yeah, Rep. Smith’s narrative is fear mongering, which is sadly all too common in our political and judicial systems. Fear sells, fear advances careers, fear gets votes. With that said, there are few people alive I detest more than Rep. Smith. It’s amazing and terrifying how so few, indeed one man, can abridge the rights of so many. It is my hope that the policies and views he so promotes and espouses hits close to home someday. Someone close to him, someone in his own family perhaps, or even he himself, winds up accused of a sex offense. He… Read more »

@Tired

I wonder what Rep Smith has to hide, if anything, who he is carrying the torch for, e.g. family, friend, etc, in his crusade, or if he just wants to have high political cred regardless of the costs with using info dressed in such a dark manner, which can be questioned continually.

I just copied and pasted the following just to see what came up, “U.S. sex offender registries are caught sexually abusing children.” Sure as hell no stats or reports on sexual offending from US registrants. All negative towards the registry. I find the following that came up interesting, “These policies have led to multiple collateral consequences, creating an ominous environment that inhibits successful reintegration and may contribute to an increasing risk for recidivism. In fact, evidence on the effectiveness of these laws suggests that they may not prevent recidivism or sexual violence and result in more harm than good.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820068/… Read more »

That is a damn good article really.

@ Mike R, the registry is being applied separately from your criminal charge as it’s statutory. Now, you did have a trial date for your criminal charge, but you had no trial on your statutory scheme’s application. The state is applying it, but you weren’t able to have a trial on that aspect to face your accuser, which is the state. You want them to prove why the statutory scheme is being applied with facts and you get your team to provide facts as well. In this situation, the state will cite that Smith v Doe, 2003 deemed the registration… Read more »

We really need a page or post that everyone that comes across these gov. sites stating exactly what that page stated. I can start it, be nice if ACSOL would put this as a access point an their sites. Everyone should be using and pushing these stats. This should be posted on every site that we can possibly post it. 1. California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation 2017 Outcome Evaluation Report: An Examination of Offenders Released in Fiscal Year 2012‐13. Of the 3,313 sex‐registrants in the FY 2012‐13 release cohort, 1.2%, of the total released were convicted of a new… Read more »

@mike r, the problem is that nobody cares about actual statistics it seems. They know the statistics but the attitude is that “if it stops just one child from …” then it’s worth permanently harming the 98/100 first time offenders who never re-ofend. That said, I wonder if it isn’t better when talking about statistics to, instead of talking about the % that will re-offend focusing on the % and number of people who won’t but are permanently harmed by the registry and add to that the # of people harmed by the registry because they are a spouse or… Read more »

M C If you reallllyyyy want to “prove the statistics” to the “uneducated/ clueless” general person in society; there’s a much better-way to get-their-attention. BEFORE even bringing up the Subject regarding recidivism statistics and everything-else regarding the Registry (and general mind-set regarding the sex offender hype,etc.). FIRST……. (you have to “get-down-to-their-level” …… that they can comprehend …… ESPECIALLY with the “If it Saves one Child”….. etc. Begin the Strategy initially by saying their Should-be more GUN Control Laws, etc….. WITH mentioning several times about the “if it saves one child”, etc. THEN …… when their mind is about to explode… Read more »

@Mike R,

That New Jersey link abstract doesn’t display the abstract any longer. But I did see it being cited in an article. I’ll give you that site: https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/sex-offender-registration-and-notification-research-finds-limited-effects-new

I don’t believe this moron came up with IML on his own. My understanding on how it works is that lobbyist are hired by corporations, agencies, businesses, individuals, etc. to present new ideas to law makers. Then when such laws are implemented those individuals reap the rewards.

My guess it was the law enforcement unions who started IML. Just follow the money.

@Grr

Police unions? How so?

YOU ARE THE POLITICAL POWER: The I.U.P.A. has become the most politically influential voice on law enforcement issues on the federal, state, and local levels for issues that affect you and your community. Lobbying federal officials and representatives on behalf of locals, we also meet regularly with Members of Congress and make endorsements based on your recommendations. We count on you to advise us on issues relevant to you and your members. https://iupa.org/ https://www.fleoa.org/ all lobby with law makers There’s unions for all law enforcement agencies throughout the world. IML created new jobs, dues, pensions, retirements etc. for thousands of… Read more »

@GRR here’s the thing, the green notice piece was already being implemented and angel watch center already existed as ‘operation Angel Watch’ done by US Marshals prior to IML. However as with the very original registries compared to today IML expanded the scope from sending green notices on people who truly were known to engage in trafficking and sex tourism to everyone convicted of a covered offense. In other words it went from limited judgement call notices based on at least some level of a risk assessment (but maybe not accurate one) to mandatory notices based on the type of… Read more »

Here is the 1 million dollar question. I read that those passports of child related offenders would now be marked? Furthermore, the article states the US would notify their incoming country. So, what about those (past offenders) who haven’t been convicted of child related offenses? Furthermore (Ca), what’s the protocol if you travel International?

I kind of think that this passport identifier is a form of “Forced Speech”. Most people have the assumption that any registrant traveling overseas has the intent of abusing a child sexually – is this not the reason why IML was created? Is this not the thought that Smith is attempting to broadcast in his statement. Well if this is the case then why is the identifier on the passport not considered “forced speech” which is against the constitution. The statement alone in word (the way people interpret the identifier) that you are stating that you are traveling to abuse… Read more »

Smith’s district is riddled with corruption. I should know, I lived there. Redneck Republicans, African Americans herded into a ghetto Asbury Park, Catholic bigots run riot, the new Orthodox Jewish right and all the bigots you can think of. Smith cares about Chinese Muslims? What a joke. This scumbag showboat could not run in several districts. He got lucky in Monmouth County.

All great feedback people.

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