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NY: State poised to institute sex-offender ban on mass transit

[politico.com – 4/2/20]

New York State is poised to enact a ban on some sex offenders in New York’s mass transit system, a move long sought by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and long dreaded by civil libertarians.

The state budget that leaders are now finalizing would allow judges to ban individuals convicted of some sex crimes in mass transit from using the system for up to three years.

The MTA has pushed for the ban, arguing that those who commit sex crimes on the subway or bus do so again and again, creating a never-ending cat-and-mouse game for police and unnecessarily endangering customers.

Civil libertarians and some transit advocates, on the other hand, argue that not only would such a ban be hard to enforce, but it could prevent individuals from accessing the services they need to re-enter society.

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  1. Worried in Wisconsin

    Somewhat misleading headline, making it sound like the ban would apply across the board to all sex offenders. The article describes this as being focused on those that committed an offense on mass transit, and it being something that the judge will need to impose on a case-by-case basis. While in general terms I think that this ban would be difficult to enforce and only serve to hinder anyone trying to re-enter society, this does seem to be a narrowly aimed ban.

    • Eric Knight

      I agree, to a certain extent. The problem, though, is that the judge, through the PO, work some form of solution that will facilitate the rehabilitation of the registrant, including the ability to be transported to and from a place of work in lieu of taking public transportation. Tailored punishments are nothing new, as long as the objective is directed to BOTH public safety AND individual rehabilitation into society. Without the latter, though, then the punishment fails to pass the smell test of constitutionalism.

  2. totally against public registry

    Wow, in the midst of this crisis, they don’t forget about the sex offenders. This definitely should be fought

  3. Jm from WI

    New York has it’s priorities straight. How many deaths from corona virus today?

  4. Fairyland

    What has not been widely reported on yet is that they had also passed those new E-Stop rules as well. It’s basically the same details as a couple months ago (Assembly Bill 9505) but they had amended it this week with something really bad.

    Basically [under eighteen years of age] is removed from #16 of the list of definitions. Long story short, it should make the entire internet where we make actual contact with another person of any age reportable. Reference People v Ellis YouTube video which caused this law to happen. The state’s lawyer basically said that they wanted us to report everything where we make contact with another person, as well as names of the websites we post on. Harsh! And it seems now that they have it. Then again, the new law is so confusingly worded in which it could mean several different things but ultimately I expect this is how it’ll end up being interputed until we win something in court to say otherwise.

    Fortunately, my research has shown that that the state is after dating, gaming and plainly obvious social networking sites. You probably won’t loose your Reddit, Twitch, Skype, Google, Youtube, Amazon, etc. as they would have kicked you off years ago by now. Also if you look really deep into things, you will find sources that alludes to that the state wasn’t really all that successful into getting companies that they wanted into E-Stop. The state has even tried to shame companies into signing up by outing who they were, but it didn’t work. Reading in between the lines, no one really wants it other than perhaps Facebook, Cuomo and a few others.

    Overall, I feel we’ll loose a couple more sites, probably new fangled ones like Tiktok and it’ll be status quo as always. Of course it is not something that should be ignored. I do wish some Civil Liberty Union will take this up but they’ve never really been all that interested in this until just recently. NYCLU actually filed a lawsuit for offenders on Parole/Probation being banned from using the internet entirely. (https://www.nyclu.org/en/press-releases/nyclu-sues-end-internet-and-social-media-bans-people-convicted-committing-sex) Sadly they are not interested in the E-Stop part of the law at all and said so in their filed lawsuit.

    This post was posted elsewhere as well, so please excuse the cross posting.

  5. dph

    It became Legislature, it’s Law and he’s gonna sign.
    Was in Gov. talk and in the background. Damn those transit fearmongers with NO ACTUAL FACTS or events
    in the pas t MIGHT of Occurred.
    Un believable during this time.
    NARSOL better jump on this one!
    Sorry NY’s NYC too.
    Maybe they can work on a suit.
    BAD DECISION NY STATE, especially during this time. I’m sure they’re lurking around the corners now. NOT

  6. Saddles

    We all can be carried away by issue’s today asin this type ofnature of man and woman. So who is going against principal, or are we still wresting with flesh and blood. I am sure women all over the USA have wanted to say or use the expression ” the more I see men the better I like dogs”. So in many ways this transit by bus makes since with this ban that may even be temporary in all this proposal.

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