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Will Sex Offense Registry Changes be Part of Criminal Justice Reform?

[ – 6/11/20]

The killing of George Floyd at the hands of law enforcement has sparked outrage and mass protests across the nation. Calls for police reform have created yet another divide among the American public. As we move toward what will likely be significant changes to the criminal justice system, will individuals on the sex offense registry be included in those reforms?

Why So Many Laws?

Throughout history the level of outrage associated with various types of criminals has changed, yet the moral disgust directed at sex offenses and sex offenders has remained constant. We use terms like “sexual predator” and “monster” indiscriminately to refer to individuals who have committed crimes ranging from minor sexual offenses to violent sexual assaults that end in murder. We pass laws to control sexual offenders based on the most high-profile and serious cases, yet most offenders do not fit these categories.

While legal control over sexual behavior can be traced to the earliest of civilizations, the 1980s and 1990s is when sex offense legislation began its dramatic rise in the U.S. There was an increase in the number of child sexual abuse cases prosecuted by the courts and recounted in the media. The high-profile disappearance of Jacob Wetterling, the sexual assault and murder of Megan Kanka, the abduction and murder of Amber Hagerman, and the kidnapping and murder of Polly Klaas were all presumed to involve children brutally harmed or murdered by previously convicted sexual offenders. These events launched a new wave of stranger-danger panic and get-tough legislation which remains today, despite minimal, if any, impact on sex offense recidivism or community safety.

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Well, the term defund means to reallocate monies., to take them away from law enforcement and put it in other areas of societal needs. I have an idea where they could find a whole lot of money and not have to cut the police force. DEFUND OR ABOLISH THE REGISTRY. Think of all the personnel hours invested in registering 110,000 people every year,many of them every 90 days. Think of the officers pulled off of serious duty to check the residence of 110,000 people every year. Think of the hours wasted updating the websites and data bases. All that for… Read more »


And the recidivism rate is irrelevant anyway because the Registry Hit List does nothing to improve it. Wouldn’t matter if the recidivism rate was 90%. The Hit List would still be useless, ineffective, and trivially demonstrably not even needed.

The Hit List is obviously not for public safety or protecting anyone. But the harassers who like it don’t care.

I wasn’t dangerous until I was listed on the Hit List for a few years. They said I was a monster so I became one.

Will, I agree. I have been registered now going on 20 years. Have been constantly victimized by strangers and forced to be homeless as the rule. Having a place to live that is safe and stable is just a impossible fantasy. I’m approaching 60 years old and I feel more and more like an animal. Eat out of dumpster and asking for handouts and always afraid. Just surreal.

That’s a great piece! Unfortunately, the public will never believe you like the courts will never accept updated data. I think it was in the movie Men In Black that said, “A person you can talk with. People, you can’t talk with people”. The reference was to fear between an individual and a mob. Mr. Floyd died in police custody. What I hadn’t connected before was that a registrant was murdered because the murderer found his address on the website as a sex offender. Mr. Condoluci was listed on the registry’s website and that’s how his home address was founded.… Read more »

Maybe when half of the mama’s kids are on the registry.

Short answer. No!
If anything more societal reliance upon the database infrastructure will result.
I can imagine a time when the only punishment will be registration for some nuisance sex crimes.
A recent post here described a bad cop database which equates to more reliance.

One of the advantages wrought by the electronic machine industry on sex offenders specifically was achieved by convincing folks to ” come on in, the water is warm and safe. ”

Now identity theft is a threat to everyone, especially youngsters who’ve not yet entered into the work place.

Tim in WI says “ If anything more societal reliance upon the database infrastructure will result.” This is exactly what they want. We are fast becoming a surveillance technocracy. Sure, they may defund the police departments and even get rid of flesh and blood officers but don’t think for a moment they haven’t got a plan ready to be rolled out to replace them. It is going to be robotic “ peace officers” , drones , and facial recognition. A benevolent dystopia. They already have robotic police dogs patrolling streets and parks in Singapore barking orders at the citizenry. Google… Read more »

If I were to point to a current project by the saints, I would highlight the notion of “contact tracing.” The Chinese and North Koreans are much farther along in the implementation. Those governments do not suffer the same covenants we the people do. We have to be ” sold” first concerning such notions.Y

Will Allen I’m suprised at you. Guess I will have to cut off my rations of soap to you as your getting into the more reasoning and logic and thats good. I’m not gonna hold a pitch fork to you but one wonders were the reason and logic is to much of this registry ordeal. And I do remember you from 4 or 5 yrs. ago on here. Yes I’m sure we can all get down in the dumps with this sex offender ordeal its not a pretty picture. Let alone what it does to one’s reputation. And yes it… Read more »

I’m for abolishing the registry. As soon as I’m elected Governor, I’ll get right on it. Until then, why does registration need to take place in a police station? Why can’t each city/county contract with some social service where the registrant comes in, fills out the forms, gets his pic taken and is on his way? It is much less expensive, much less intimidating, and all of the extremely vital information is collected.

Great question ! But LECs are not known for relinquishing any power regardless of how minutiae

That doesn’t work too well if they decide they want to arrest/re-arrest us. Helps if we’re already chilling in the Lobby 👍🏼

Strange but new-normalized question: If a city disbands a police department, how will the register registrants?

Same way does it: vigilantes. That’s how district attorneys circumvent Megan’s law. That’s how police get those “anonymous tips” you always read about in 290 stories. Watchout for ice cream trucks too, or other weird visitors. They park around looking to scan for wifi signals then they tip off the police to some bogus claim. Or if they can get on someone’s wifi they’ll send some hate mail or worse and then tip off the police. You disband the police and then these sting operations will just be carried out by vigilantes. At least police can be held accountable.… Read more »

Police cannot be held accountable because of two things:
1) Powerful police unions that protect and cover for “the thin blue line”
2) Qualified Immunity

Two things average citizens do not have.

I believe that most police are good people who end up being pushed to make black and white decisions based on black and white presentations. They also get pushed by “academic” peer pressure, seeing other police rise through the artificial system they built. Again, training is the issue. Police are taught one side of the law, the side that district attorneys and prosecutors rely on to feed back to the legislature. There the system keeps asserting this “pro-victim” “anti-offender” position, to the point where any dissent in the legislature is scolded because it means you’re anti-victim or pro-offender. A sentiment… Read more »

African-Americans face police violence in numbers that do not match their population demographics. This is mere fact. The disagreement is WHY that disparity exists. BLM says it is due to systemic racism, others say it due to economic factors of some communities. But no matter, for any reduction of police violence that results from the attention to George Floyd and others will likely benefit all races. The SO Registry also contains a disparate ratio of African-Americans. African-American men are put on the registry at twice the rate of white men – with the staggering result that 1% of all black… Read more »

A very good point.

Also good points. I do agree that I fear the mind of a vigilante as much as I fear the mind of any madman or unhinged person who is hell bent on ruining someone’s life and calling it “justice” or feeling any satisfaction from that.
I guess I also think that because there are good cops out there, something can be done about the current situation at hand.

Looking for Answers ~ B. Getting Qualified Immunity
Law enforcement officers are entitled to qualified immunity when their actions do not violate a clearly established statutory or constitutional right. The objective reasonableness test determines the entitlement. The officer is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the vision of 20/20 hindsight.
So, the qualified immunity is not guaranteed in a lot of cases, or at least should not be guaranteed.

@someone, Yes, but the average citizen needs to see beyond what lawmakers are telling us to sell it to us, very similar to the SO registry. They sell it as public safety when it is not. From, an excellent source of similar articles: “Though the original idea was to protect public servants from vacuous lawsuits, the practical effects have been alarming. As I wrote last week: In Howse v. Hodous (2020), the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit gave qualified immunity to two officers who allegedly assaulted and arrested a man on bogus charges for the crime… Read more »

@ jw You do have something there and yes even ADAT and many out in California. So one wonders were’s the balancing act of all this sex registry. Where’s the blindfold or the scales of Justice. Is all this justice and fairness, justice and mercy, or who is pumping the gas in much of this ordeal. Stories of people getting caught up in internet sex stings takes 100 people down in two day ordeals. Who is gloating at those that are treated of slavery type way in these sex offender issues. One even wonders were you would get the people.… Read more »

The criminal justice system is about money, power, control, and continuing these three. That’s it. Nothing else to see here folks. Don’t take it personally. All these “reforms” are a fad. It will not last. Remember all the mass shootings? how about the “border crisis”? It’s all a charade. The registry will fail in one of two ways: Collapse under it’s own weight. (unlikely now that the professional liars have made it possible to remove about half of the people on the list) Or, through the Us Supreme Court. That’s it. Nothing else will work.

I just want to say to the author thanks, and also, please think about other ways that we can obtain access to your writing OTHER THAN FACEBOOK. I don’t use FACEBOOK, and never will, because I am afraid that it will draw attention to me and possibly lead to prosecution for fabricated charges. I am not delusional, paranoid or irrational. I believe this, in fact I think it’s absolutely for sure, law enforcement, special interests, nonprofits, NGO’s, women’s groups, feminists, and countless other identities ARE willing to set up ANY MAN who uses pornography, thinking it is what he deserves,… Read more »

The FBI already has already proven their ability to lower themselves by putting out a cp website in order to try and snag somebody surfing on their computer for dirty pictures. When the public found out about the “playpen” scandal, the feds pulled back, but now their back doing it ‘sneakingly’ with the latest big brother technology.

Don’t fool yourself, they know everything you and I do.

Some may even lean to say that’s entrapment.
I’m a RSO unfortunately. My case is from 1995, and trust me, I’ve been thru the wringer.
I’m all for making changes to these unconstitutional laws and corruption.
But people shouldn’t be looking for that type of sh*t anyway.

Change will come I’m sure with the sex registry issue as much fo this registry should of never been introduced via this computer type of made-made trapping. Governments have always been like that and wanting to get over on someone. Yes, its more scary in this registry issue in many ways and methods that our fellow American government seem to profit from in this type of ruse under the cover its all for public safety in many ways. Oh one of our great leaders tell us nobody tells me what to do. Than who speaks out today? While everyone makes… Read more »

1. “Change will come I’m sure with the sex registry issue as much fo this registry should of never been introduced via this computer type of made-made trapping.” When will this change come oh wise one?
2. You type a lot but nothing changes.

While I hope many on here caught my mistake on here when adressing LPH with the pharse “No body tells me what to do” than who does? One leader said that a few years ago or was that out of line for any leader to say that or who is judging today. Their is a right way and a wrong way for everything. Is much of this sex registry inducement by internet the wrong way. Who is leading in this enticing adventure to get one’s goat so to speak. One wonders who overcomes evil with evil or what do we… Read more »

Better a little with righteousness than much gain with injustice. Since my ordeal several years ago I have written many views for my benefit and my understanding to keep me abrest of all this understanding and why I decided to text in a graphic type of text.Sure after the second night of being badgered I made a decision to prove that it wasn’t a teenage person and it wasn’t a teenage person. Why did they not take me down the first night but wanted to try again the second night Its like a you come to me type deal but… Read more »

Will, I agree. I have been registered now going on 20 years. Have been constantly victimized by strangers and forced to be homeless as the rule. Having a place to live that is safe and stable is just a impossible fantasy. I’m approaching 60 years old and I feel more and more like an animal. Eat out of dumpster and asking for handouts and always afraid. Just surreal.

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