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VOTE NO on CA Prop. 20! Stop Harsher Sentencing and DNA Collection

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The November 2020 ballot measure in California that would significantly increase the number of violent felonies (from 27 to 51) resulting in harsher sentencing has a number: Proposition 20.  Of that total, the number of sex offenses would increase from 9 to 14.

“We urge registrants, family members, friends and supporters to vote NO on Proposition 20,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci.  “This is the time to show up, stand up and speak up against the possibility of future injustice.”

The ballot measure would also allow law enforcement to collect DNA from some individuals convicted of a misdemeanor.  The ACLU opposes this ballot measure.  Law enforcement organizations support this ballot measure.

 

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Thank you, Janice. Hopefully the huge sticker shock is what will drive most people to vote NO on this. I don’t hold much hope that many people will vote against this for moral reasons.

I continue to hope there is a “special” place in hell for scumbag politicians and those that uphold their ideology.

You can count on me to vote against this horrid measure as well as spreading the word.

I wonder – was this measure put up before the Pandemic? Because the money might not be there to support it…

@Bill – A lot of money has already been spent by law enforcement to get this measure on the ballot. In fact, they failed to do so only four years ago. This is their second attempt. Earlier this year, I thought we had no chance to defeat this ballot measure. Given that society is beginning to wake up and question the motives and actions of law enforcement, I think we have a chance. The final answer will depend, of course, upon how many people vote NO on Prop. 20. Please tell everyone you know to vote against it. By the way, there is a lot of background information, including who has spent what amount of money in support of and in opposition to, on the website “Ballotpedia.”

Janice,
They collected my DNA in California a couple years back. One misdemeanor, sentence of indecent exposure 27 years ago! Urination in a public place seen by adult only. Not one second in my life have I ever been in a jail cell: No jail time, 6 mos. probation, sentenced to 5 counseling sessions, 80 hrs community service and told to register for life! Sentenced Feb 1994. Completed all requirements in about 6 weeks, Counselor sent letter that I am likely to never offend again. Went back to the Judge and he let me off probation right away. He was very impressed. He also stated that he did not know why they recommended registration based on my no prior criminal history and Veteran status. He told me personally to come back to him in a couple years, conviction free, and he would release me from registration himself if he was not retired by then! He retired about 4 months before I went to see him! Still registering, giving up DNA. feeling like a piece of trash or a menace to society. Hanging in there have the same job for 27 years! Can’t go to college to better myself due to small town where everyone knows one another. Registering for college would cause people I know in college admin to possibly say something. Kept my mouth shut for 27 years. Only 1 other person knows and that’s my wife of 27 years! Other then my family and job, I feel like an outcast, looser. I’m hanging in there best I can! I just don’t understand why they get to have my DNA! What is next? ~ Still nothing on my record, not even a traffic ticket!

@BSL – Based upon what you have written, it appears that you might be eligible to petition for termination of registration under the Tiered Registry Law next year if your birthday is between July 1 and December 31 or in 2022 if your birthday is between January 1 and June 30. If your petition is granted, you will no longer be required to register.

Thanks Janice. That would be nice! My BD is in December. So I would need to have a copy of my most recent reg. (2 mos from now I will have that.) Get a copy of my Tier level info? And fill out the proper form with the county?

Thanks!

Is there anything out of state registrants can do to oppose this disaster in California?

You can probably offer financial support to the groups fighting it.

Cops in my town take over 48% of 96.5 million dollar general fund.

And they want more felonies? To do what exactly? Scare more people into giving them money?

Yeah, probably that

I thought we were working towards criminal justice reform? Isn’t that what the politicians keep telling us they want? Well, not where I am from, in FL they can’t incarcerate enough and they don’t hide that, but I thought CA was on the forefront of this movement? Praying and good luck!

This bill is directly in opposition of two explicit reforms the voters already passed. But some people got their panties in a bunch that a few “undesirables” were going to be given an OPPORTUNITY to POTENTIALLY be let out early. Apparently even going up before the parole board and allowing them to make a decision on individual bases is just too much.

This proposition won’t pass. We have our problems, but we’re still not bat shit crazy like Floridu..uh

@ Chance

I’m sure that same statement was voiced on every other Bat Sh** crazy law that has been passed since the 1st Bat sh** crazy law was implemented and approved by the Supreme court. This can pass, and never think it won’t.

It’s happening because some of these law makers can’t NOT make laws. They can’t find anything else better to do. Everything else takes actual work, whereas the rso train runs without a hitch and nobody cares how much worse it gets for them.

Put it on the ballot and watch ignorant people still pass it based on “violent imagery” created by false narratives, not caring about unintended consequences since “Eh, it’s not my problem”.

That’s why people need to get the word out though people always see it as a lame duck cause since you’re trying to defend the indefensible.

Law enforcement needs to stay out of politics and focus on enforcing the law that taxpayers pay them to do. So someone that has committed a sex crime is not eligible to be released on parole? Wouldn’t law enforcement and government officials want someone to turn their life around and be successful? Sounds like the smog in California has affected their brain. At least California doesn’t have Lauren Spoiled Barbie Book and Daddy DUI.

No, CA doesn’t have the Books but there are elected versions of her in Sacramento from parts of the state that make life hard enough for those in the same vein Ron and Co beat on.

In my opinion the best way to defeat this is to use the “cops do not need more control over us” approach. People are standing up to the police and we can use that as leverage. The big thing is DNA and government control. I wouldn’t focus too much on the sexual cases.

I had my blood taken from me way back in 2000 on my registration update, I was thinking there was a situation where I *fit* the profile of a certain situation, *not me* I felt a little violated but what can I do? in a way the DNA does help catch the ones that have committed crimes in the past by tracking/tracing * the ones that have alluded the police for many years, if there’s a person of interest THAN request that individual to check in the police station & than do what they do, but should not just say hey!!! now you have to give, how does one vote & where is the voting to be done? I ask because never voted before.
thank you
GOOD LUCK TO ALL

There is a great report published by the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice that includes many reasons to oppose Prop. 20. The four major reasons are (1) it will impose hundreds of millions of dollars i new annual costs to be paid by state taxpayers and local communities, (2) it will result in crowded state prisons and jails, (3) it will interrupt the ongoing record-low rates of crime experienced during the past decade and (4) it will devastate families and communities. There are many more facts in the report, including a chart listing potential annual costs to the state overall ($413 million) and to each county (up to $97 million for LA County). I used some of the information in this report recently when making a presentation to the Stockton Chamber of Commerce. You can use this information, too, when you explain to others why they should VOTE NO ON PROP. 20.

Thank you, Janice. I expect that price tag to be the main driving point to kill Prop 20. Thanks to Covid, a lot more people will be taking that into consideration a lot more.

Covid19 skipped over the usual April, May, and June sting operations and sexual assault awareness blah blah blah months. So now they’re trying to adjust course and keep the rso agenda going before the elections. That’s why they’re drumming up rso cases in the news, they’re trying to protect their system.

The article reads “The ballot measure would also allow law enforcement to collect DNA from some individuals convicted of a misdemeanor”. That “misdemeanor” by current standards includes prostitution with a minor. VOTE YES ON prop 20!

The progressive agenda should defeat Prop 20 as it is against rolling back prison reforms, furthering incarcerations and increasing funding that limits personal freedoms. This progressive vote recommends voting No. https://progressivevotersguide.com/california/2020/general/proposition-20?language_content_entity=en

Ballot came in the mail today, I have over 30 family and friends voting NO!

I hope this helps.

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