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TSA Precheck Available to Most Registrants

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TSA precheck is available to most people who have been convicted of a sex offense.  In fact, the only registrants who are categorically excluded from the TSA precheck are those convicted of rape or aggravated assault.

The list of those who are not eligible for TSA precheck includes, but is not limited to, individuals on a terrorist watchlist as well as those who have been convicted of espionage, sedition, treason, murder and transporting explosives.  In addition, the TSA has a list of interim disqualifying criminal offenses including, but not limited to, individuals convicted of bribery, extortion and arson.

“ACSOL is providing this information in order to answer a question asked during its monthly meeting held on March 20,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci.

TSA precheck allows airline passengers during the screening process to continue wearing their shoes and belts as well as carry liquids and take food onto flights.  The same passengers also qualify for the TSA precheck line which is often shorter than the line for other passengers.

 

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Can confirm, even with a very old cali 288.5 conviction, I have had a KTN for a couple of years now.

Does this apply to “statutory rape” where there is the absence of elements of lack of consent, lack of force, lack of threat, and lack of coercion? Or does “rape” in this situation mean rape?

I ask because at the time of my offense my UCMJ offenses were not listed in the “Manual of Courts Martial” as “non-consensual” (See, Rule 412 MCM 2005) and consent, force, threat, or coercion were not an element of the crime (DIBRS 120-B1 “Carnal Knowledge under 16 but over 12”). If it had involved a lack of consent, force, threat, or coercion it would have been charged as Article 120 “Rape” (DIBRS 120-A).

This is to be contrasted to the new Article “120b” passed in 2011 which clearly states that there is no consent in para. (g) and re-labels the crime as “Sexual assault of a child” (DIBRS 120-BB3 in 2012 or 120-D1 in 2007). Both the 2007 and 2011 update to the MCM/UCMJ re-codified these under new DIBRS codes and made them more sever/non-consensual by definition and the new crime has heavier penalties.

Question. Do they notify your sheriff or the destinations sheriff if you board a plane to a different state? Nc law says I only have to notify if gone for I think 7 days or something like that. If I take a 6 day trip and don’t notify, do I risk a legal mumbo jumbo?

If you are speaking of the ICE notice, then no. That is reserved for international travel. You are left to doing your own notifications within the U.S. boundaries. Hope that helps. BTW, watch for lay overs. In some states, that could actually trigger a required notification, although it’s a technical matter then. No fault of your own and doubt if enforced, although I wouldn’t test that theory in Florida………

I just took a trip to Michigan and used my passport as ID, (doesn’t have the Scarlet Letter statement in it)n and had No issues through TSA screening

I’ve had my TSA Pre-Screen for a while now, no problems getting it.

Yeah, but upon return to the states, you’re unnecessarily and heavily screened again along with the high probability of being subjected to secondary.

The funny thing about returning is they sent me to second screening after coming back to the country and they looked at me and said “you’re fine man, you can leave”. No questions or anything.

I’ve flown Pre-Check for work for several years. I’ve never had any issues with domestic travel (although I’ve not been to states with stricter policies than Michigan nor do I ever stay more than 2 nights). That said, it’s not a huge benefit at the airports I go to, unless you hate taking your shoes off.

Guess what? You’re still being subjugated to an undue imposition. I don’t care how much they try to ameliorate oppression, it will never happen.

Me personally I don’t trust airport law enforcement or security everytime I book a flight out of state I make sure its A around trip ticket where I’ll arrive on A Thursday and be back in California by Monday morning just to play it safe.
About 15 years ago me and my wife at the time were driving from NYC to Riverside California its was a kool experience only had 1 lilittle hiccup with law enforcement in west Virginia after getting pulled over by some backwoods Hillbilly highway patrol officers who arested me for being a sex offender out of state they held me for 7 hours calling California to find out if I was in compliance.
Long story short after California cleared me all the cops at that police station all wanted a picture of me in handcuffs I swear I took over 5 pictures with different groups of cops it was like they cought a wild animal or something.
We only had 700$ left to make it back home and they took that when we asked about our money they claiming they never saw any money when searching are car my wife was so mad she flipped them the bird all the way to the state line as they escorted us out of West Virginia.

Good luck

Aero1

Thanks for sharing that. I am just starting my journey with traveling out of state with my family. The paranoia is real and no matter how much we understand the different state laws, there is always the possibility there will be a run in with ignorant folk. We’ve decided that she will drive out of state and if questioned we will say we know the laws and have spoke with our lawyer about our travels. I assume this will work since we will not be going over the time limits required to register. If anybody else has any tips or experience with traveling and being questioned that would be valuable information!

Here’s a link: https://www.tsa.gov/precheck

TSA molests more people per year than the average person. How many 8 year olds and grandparents do you know that are terrorists; yet the TSA has no problem violating them.

Fly the skies without being molested by a complete moron on the government payroll

I fly extensively for work, to different states, with varying itineraries. I have TSA Precheck. Never a problem. I always check the laws of that state before traveling there.

Previously, I worked at an airport and passed the TSA process for badging into a secured area of an airport.

@ James A

If you don’t mind, what state was it that you had airport access to the secure area and what year?

I ask because I am currently in California and working on the non-secure area of an airport, however I will need to get a SIDA badge next year and I am a little nervous that I may not pass.

My offense was an online sting, no victim, non-contact but still not sure how this will all play out when they run a background check for SIDA badge approval.

I’ve had TSA precheck for some time now…however, my son and I both applied at the same time and he was approved within a couple of weeks, if I recall correctly, when mine took 3 times as long. I assumed it was because of having been a registrant.

Thank you for the information.

Anyone of you have a TWIC?

I applied for a great job in Long Beach, but they require TWIC and I am not sure if I should even bother.

Would be nice to make at least minimum wage again!

I’ve had TWIC also. No problem getting it.

I’ve got a TWIC. You can read what charges they will turn away, and most sex offenses aren’t listed in their checks.

you should b ok..I cleared TSA and FBI for hazmat…disqualifications are primarily for transportation related issues…

I got TSA PreCheck in 2016 and was a registrant at the time for attempt 288(a). I had no issues. I recently submitted an application to renew it (expires after 5 years) and it was denied due to the conviction. I’m guessing this falls under the disqualifying criminal offense listed as rape or aggravated sexual abuse. Will be contacting Janet for her opinion.

Following up on my own post. I couldn’t find an attorney willing to help with the appeal so had to do it myself and lost. This is what TSA wrote: TSA was unable to determine that you pose a sufficiently low risk to transportation and national security to be eligible for expedited airport security screening through the TSA Precheck application program.”

” and national security”?! That’s a first here. Good grief.

I guess TSA should have a budget line for assessments and Precheck? This needs digging into. Something is wrong.

Congratulations on your successful audition! Apparently, you have unwittingly and unwillingly joined the extremely large cast – albeit as an extra – of the TSA Safety Theater Follies!
Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t these the same terrible actors who routinely feel up small children and consistently allow loaded firearms to pass through their checkpoints?? 🤔

I have had TSA pre-check which I have used for flights, (before Covid), within the United States. I was a little surprised that this still applied to me…as a real benefit.

Of course, now, it probably is not there for me or for anyone.

I wonder if it would do any good to flood various agencies with Freedom of Information (FIOA) requests…so we can see what they are saying…and then ask them to justify these adverse decisions to us.

Being a national security risk is ridiculous and should be pointed out every time one of us passes through a TSA checkpoint.

Best Wishes, James I

Last edited 2 months ago by James I

“I have a permit for that fully loaded weapon there, so it is ok.”

@Steve

Taking an opposing tact: how were they able to assess you were or are a sufficiently high risk person to not allow you to use this method while being an alleged national security risk? Conviction alone? If you are not low, you must be high risk, by their own words? There needs justification on this and may include some elected officials who have the sway to get them to share their alleged thinking.

I had Pre ✔️ for five years and
was trying to renew it. I was convicted sometime after I got it but it didn’t effect it. Prior to having Pre ✔️ I had been convicted for 8 years and flew multiple times before the conviction was overturned. I got Pre ✔️ then the DA retried the case and I was convicted again but continued using it without a problem. When I tried to renew, it was denied. I assumed they thought attempt 288(a) fell under the disqualifying offense of aggravated sexual assault but there was no threatened use of force, an element of the offense. It was an an Internet sting. Rape is also a disqualifying offense but I wasn’t charged with attempted rape. I raised those issues and others in the appeal but TSA did not address them in the response. Notice TSA said, “…not a sufficiently low risk to transportation AND national security” not OR national security.

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