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MI: Changes to sex offender list cause confusion

Source: upmatters.com 9/14/21

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) — Nearly nine months after the state made court-ordered changes to the sex offender registry, there’s still a lot of confusion and questions about enforcement.

Michigan State Police say they are not enforcing violations of the law, which is meant to track offenders, while other agencies are.

The registry includes more than 40,000 names.

The confusion started a few years back when a federal judge, in response to a lawsuit filed by the University of Michigan Law Clinical Program and the American Civil Liberties Union, ruled parts of the sex offender registry unconstitutional.

Among the flaws: requiring sex offenders to immediately report whenever they moved, got a new car or got a new phone number; and banning sex offenders from living or loitering within 1,000 feet of schools.

The school safety zone was important to Jessica Monteith and her daughter, who was 11 when the 40-year-old father of a school friend molested her in 2010.

“Knowing that sex offenders were not allowed on school property was almost a sigh of relief for her,” the mom said of her daughter.

The state responded to the federal court ruling with a new sex offender registry law in December 2020.

It eliminated the 1,000-foot school safety zones.

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So how would the school zones have prevented her daughters molestation? Willing to bet it happened at the friend’s home and not at school.

That was my thought exactly. The victim had a panic attack when she saw her molester at graduation. So the “logical” response was the 1000 foot restriction. The victim needs therapy. She could encounter the man at a Walmart or a gas station. The moral panic and illogic surrounding sex offenses never ceases to amaze me.

Veritas.

Of course. It’s nonsense. The Karens could keep every PFR out of every school in the country and that will not change the risk level in any significant or useful way.

I barely scanned this article but my visceral response was that I don’t care at all about this mother and the victim or how they feel. How sad is that? In fact, I felt “f**k them”. That is what the Oppression Lists (OLs) have done to me. They killed my general empathy and compassion long ago. Today, I see “people” such as these only as attackers/harassers who cannot mind their own business and they are using their personal problems (e.g being a crime victim) to attack and harass my family. F**k these “people” thinking they can tell me where to live, go, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam. I do hope they suffer.

But hey, at least the OLs are protecting so many children. They’ve done great things for America.

Agree Will. I have also begun to feel the same way about those people who won’t wear masks around people in public spaces and those people who refuse to get the vaccine. Their reasoning saves no one and can potentially affect others. I say f**k them too (for any mod who wants to edit my word f**k, I’ll remind you that word is defined in our dictionaries. Not only that but forum guidelines state “Swear words should be starred out such as f*k and s*t”… Note the word SHOULD as opposed to MUST.
[It also says “Moderating decisions may be subjective”]

Well this seems to be on its last legs there. Oh well. Abe Lincoln said it best. The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.

So the man was at the school to watch his son graduate and this woman thought he was there to molest her daughter. Give me a break…

You’re equipped to follow up her delusions by making the point to the media outlet that ran the story. You’ll be surprised how cathartic it can be to confront it publicly.
Permanent victim’s stance is very dangerous to civil order. If I’m this guy no way she walks away unconfronted. Either the father’s attendance is prohibited by law, or protected by law, it cannot be both. I’m still unclear about this fact and would like clarification. The registry issue doesn’t ring germane

The situation the mom describes is exactly why anyone with common sense doesn’t want the safety zones—it turned a minor bit of awkwardness into a massive spectacle, potentially ruining graduation for all in attendance. These laws are idiotic and enforcement does more harm than good. No one has ever been “molested” at a high school graduation. I’m sorry if seeing someone who committed a crime against you is triggering, but that’s life! 15 years ago I was robbed at gun point—should I be able to throw a tantrum every time I see the two guys who did it? No, and I don’t care!

What if a person forced to register is a single parent by law they have to enroll their children in school so what, their barking the law and abiding by it at the same time, sounds confusing the system is definitely rigid to destroy sex offenders lives.
First they attack the registrants support group by breaking up their family’s then they go after their financial support job loss which often leads to homelessness and eventually FTR and prison.

Good luck

I promise you the same kind of confusion existed among the people after the Emancipation proclamation was promulgated circa 1865. There was great fear and paranoia from every corner.

Sounds like bs!! To me… The victim is trying to play a horse and pony show. Or is it the lawmakers who want the victims to play this game to get votes to stay in office. Who will pass useless laws which will make the victim think they are safe. But this just in!!!! You can never be safe (ever)!!!! Things happen and you should be prepared. To think the guy was there for your kid. You need help with yourself

James… I am oh, it’s a good opportunity to put on a drama show and a good attention getter. Unfortunately it was a happy occasion for the kids who are graduating and their families but sometimes things happen did you deal with it. As far as the politicians… it’s good job security when you create a need that you can fill. Build the fear in people and convince them that you are the one that will protect them and all they have to do is vote for you. To me that is pretty evident with these extremes they’ve gone to in some of these rule of the registry. The $50 extortion money demanded and if not paid you will be incarcerated. I honestly believe that the only reason they increase the punishment is because it looks good on the résumé come reelection time.

If I may I would like to say a word or two on confusion in much of this registry. Is it better to do the wrong thing than to do the right? Sure at times we have all done the wrong thing no matter what it is and yes doing the wrong can be the right thing. We all make decisions. Take for instance taking a plea deal. Even going down to meet someone that claims to be someone of opposite sex which they are not to be can be a wrong thing but in the end one is proving. So who is keeping their code of ethics in protecting and serving by this ruse of confusion. Their is a lot of cofussing issues not only in the registry but other issues in American Government.

See God is not the author of confusion man is. Even taking a plea deal may be confusing or intimidating to one but doesn’t the bible say dare go to court in front of the unjust. Sure confusion and wronging a right or righting a wrong can be just as perplex as the ordeal but remember their is always a silver lining to every dark cloud.

The registry was not made for safety it was made for payback. I don’t know how many times I here people say in this country we should put sex offenders on a island and nuke them even though bragging that we are the greatest country in the world and God bless America. I wonder what God thinks about that?

I think He left a book for us to read,
That will tell us what He thinks?

@Dr.
who left us a book? God or Saddles?

😎

Sheldon your right but remember their is two side’s to every coin. Could one say the registry is an intimidation factor, the plea bargain, or deal some harliquin romance to digest or is the flavor of the registry have a sexual twist to it to trap those in this wrong or right ordeal.

Did any of us create the registry? Did anyone create dirty drive in movies,pornographic material, or are governments going a bit above their authority or are we all sinners in all this right or wrong. Are we talking about sin factors or cussing out the boss on the job when he tells you to sign out and leave. So if righteous is above government judgement than its morally to cuss out that boss that makes one work on over time, do extra work to merit a promotion and than be overlooked as still a nobody.

Who is making sense today. Do we judge based on trapping or was that trapping the right thing to do when we can all talk about the lesser of the two evils. So is their a lesson in all this or are those many that got caught up in this registry been brain washed like some dead end kid serial. Actually that serial had a bit of common sense in those days.

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