Tiered Registry Bill Resurfaces in Amended Form

Although believed to be stopped, the Tiered Registry Bill has been revitalized by its author Sen. Scott Wiener. The bill has a new number — SB 384 — as well as new content. This was accomplished through the “gut and amend” process available to state legislators.

“As compared to the prior bill, SB 384 significantly reduces the number of people who would be assigned to Tiers 1 and 2 and therefore eligible to petition for removal from the registry in 10 or 20 years,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci. “For example, the new bill would assign people convicted of felony possession of child pornography to Tier 3, which would continue their existing requirement to register for a lifetime.”

SB 384 is similar to the final version of the former tiered registry bill in that it will take effect on January 1, 2021. The bill could be modified before its effective date.

In order to become law, SB 384 must be considered and passed by two committees (Public Safety and Appropriations) and the full Assembly, then return to the Senate for a concurrence vote. All of these steps must be accomplished no later than September 15.

ACSOL board members will consider today the organization’s position on SB 384. Input from registrants, family members and supporters is encouraged via this website.

SB 384 – Sep 2017

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I am definitely not in favor of this new and not so well improved bill. These politicians will not have the guts to do what’s right. We should not have tiers to the registry. The registry should be dismantled!
I will not support this bill. We need to let them know that what they are doing is just despicable! They’re bunch of liars! And they can’t be trusted.

I think I finally get it now. The problem has been that the Lion has not had enough to eat. If it eats only twenty-percent of the Registrants, it never gets full. So, obviously, the solution is to feed the lion fifty-percent of the Registrants. Then, the Lion will be so full that it will get sick and never EVER want to eat another Registrant.
Now I understand the thinking!
So lets make more Tier 3 Registrants for the sake of the Tier 1 and 2 who will get a pass (this time around). Yeah, that’s the ticket. The Lion will get sick of Registrants and want to feel better, so the Tier 3 will finally get relief when the Lion gets relief by puking up the digested remains of the Registrants it consumed. I was blind not to see it before. Those who have been calling the Tier 3 and new-to-be Tier 3 Registrants selfish are absolutely correct. How dare any of you not want to be eaten by the Lion! Don’t you see how selfish you are being? Not sparing others. And it’s for your own good anyway. You will be vomited eventually. Maybe only bones and acid burned clumps of your former selves, but at least you will be out, and you will be helping those who aren’t yet Tier 3.
Of course, after the Lion pukes, it might get hungry again. Maybe lick up its vomit again. And maybe add some fresh meat. But, hey, isn’t it worth the chance?

A person viewing pornography is not a violent predator that needs to be placed in Tier 3. It saddens me just how ignorant these so called protector of minors appear to be. Shame on them.

good metaphor concerned. Well RSOL I believe you have a consensuses about this bill, at least on here.

I am a mother who understands just how many sex offender laws there are out there and now worries more about my own children doing something nonsensical or just plain stupid that could place them in jail, prison and on our sex offender registry; And today with so many sex offense laws I worry about that now more than I ever worried about my children being a victim of a sex offense. Seriously, these people have to be kidding.

Why is Gov Brown so interested in resurrecting this bill? What is the motivation?

Money because a tiered registry makes the state SORNA compliant and gets them Fed money (of a Republican kind into a Democratic state)? Is making more people in Tier 3 a financial motivation because it would certainly mean more money from those who can pay it with quarterly registration vs less than quarterly? Can’t be about the constitutional aspect of it given current court rulings. Could it be a money grab before the registry is overthrown?

I think the Colorado ruling has to be mentioned in the assembly public safety committee hearing on Monday for this bill. If it isn’t we’re just pissing in the wind at this point.

Seems to be a consensus on the bill now. almost every person on here says no way..for good reason…

Hell no! I’ll never get off the registry if this thing passes! I just want my life back. It seems like California is dead set against ever honoring my human rights as a citizen. The way I see it, this bill is going to make the registry FAR WORSE. I say NO. REJECT THIS BILL. Screw the politicians in Sacramento. We can do this on a referendum.

Please fight the Static 99R. It is complete garbage.

So is 647.6 misdemeanor now a Tier II?

Has it ever been cleared up as to the language concerning Tier 2 and 647.6 for internet publication?
The language of the bill suggests that even Tier 1 647.6 would be made public on the website along with Tier 2s.

Can someone clarify for me: Under the provisions of this new bill, do we get posted on the public website when this is signed by the Governor, or in 2021 when it takes effect?
Thank you.

What Tier would I be with a charge of 288.4(b) under the new bill ?

Just wake me when it’s over

Governor Brown is not, cannot, run for re-election and he has no plans to run for President. I think he’s involved because of that, so he has nothing to lose by becoming involved in this hot topic. Let’s hope he gets the new bill passed and then goes a step further and supports some unpopular amendments like shortening the start date to immediately. I think he decided to take the heat for Legislators who want to pass a new law but aren’t willing to suffer at election time. If Cali gets some fed money out of it so be it. A lot of us will get our lives back after suffering our entire adult lives. I would love to finally be able to apply for employment and not be rejected because 24 years ago I smoked crack with an adult female and it went all bad; and be paid a fair salary and not be afraid to meet a new acquaintance only to have her do an internet search and see my mugshot over the words “Sex Offender.” I would love to live out the rest of my life with my head held high; so go Gov go

At the very least it provides an argument that could be used in court in California Janice. Also the politicians do not seem to be willing to listen to reason, if that is the case they must be forced into reasonable behavior by the courts. It’s our only hope.

possession of child pornography has been level 1 in NY unless accompanied by actual physical
that’s 20 years

seems to me getting life in the state that the rest of US takes a lead is no bargain

Keep in mind that currently, we are all “Tier 3.” I think this might open the door to future revisions. For those who cite the Colorado case, that case is being appealed by the state and might not survive appeal.

What trash! I thought Wiener was on our side?? MOST (but not all) of the guys/gals I’ve met at the meetings were upset about the last recent revisions to SB 421 (at least judging from multiple texts between us all — some of you on this board too). I haven’t talked to anyone from the meetings since this new news broke; but this new bill is just exponentially more flawed than the last one. I have had mixed feelings about this whole “tiered” registry agenda. I know Janice says we have a good Equal Protection case. But remember: it’s all speculation with NO GUARANTEES. Better to fight the current registry in Court, than to rely on the legislature to pass this DUMP bill and have the Equal Protection challenge possibly fail in Court while being stuck with a trashy tiered registry. Like some few of you mentioned about a yr or so ago, civil rights organizations should follow the Hippocratic Oath in, firstly, doing no harm. This bill will do harm. This bill really IS at the expense of others.

who cares? really?

Colorado lit a fuse that will detonate the whole enchilada.

My internal clock is out of sync and I’m awake when I should be sleep. And I don’t usually make this many comments but I must say that neither Wiener nor the Governor are required to do anything regarding a Tiered registry. They can go their merry ways and we would all still be life time registrants in California hoping to file a lawsuit down the road. I hope we do both but in the immediacy there appears to be a short road and a long road to our destination and passing the bill with the anticipation that there will be positive amendments is the short road. Taking either road comes with a cost to one or another group of registered sex offenders. Choices must be made and I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would be opposed to helping those who have already suffered the most while continuing to work towards helping the next group. Now that would be standing strong and united. But that’s just me.

MOT>>>>You are not considered violent, Attempted 288(a) is a serious but non-violent offense. Believe me I had to go through hel* to get my half time in the pen. No matter what anyone tells you a 664/288(a) is non-violent….If that is all you have you are in tier two as of this bill. Unless they got you for 288.2 distributing harmful material which they did me for asking the girl to meet for sex (judge said that was considered sending harmful material), 288.2 as of this bill TIER THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!An actual 288(a) is even tier two as of this bill. All kinds of contact offenses tier two…But asking a girl to meet for sex is much worse then actually committing a lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14, so if someone fondles a five year old for sexual gratification or makes out and fondles anyone under 14 they are tier two compared to 288.2 asking someone to meet for sex over the net…….Absolutely insane….Lumped in with SVP’s and all the habitual offenders and the most violent offenders for asking a girl to meet for sex over the net 15 years ago! I repeat ABSOLUTELY INSANE BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no transparency in politics. Everything is decided behind the curtain and then they just put on a little show for the public. Obviously this bill was never “dead” but being tweaked and torqued in such a manner to avail themselves to the most amount of federal grant money that can be had.

I don’t trust ANY of them- CASOMB, the DA who while testifying in favor sounded like a fox in the hen house and least of all the legislators. It seems as though all felony penal codes are shifted to tier 3 now. What is the point of including in tier 1 language about felonies that are not serious or violent belonging there if they are never going to be there?
There are so many people who have earned their right to privacy, and now they are going to just have that taken away by some shifty, do as their told minions? This doppelgänger of a registry bill is likely to pass. And it is likely to be held up in the courts for a very long time. 2022 ? I think WW3 will be underway and over by then. What folly.

I hope this bill passes, it’s a start. My reasoning is, if it’s punitive it helps future court cases to take down the registry. It also gives tiers one and two an eventual path off the registry. Right now we are all tier three. Maybe it could be better, but it could be a whole lot worse. With or without our support, change is coming.