UPDATED NEWS 12/8/2021: Unfortunately, this is going to be implemented.
ACSOL’s Response to the proposed regulations:
Download a PDF of the following letter
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Rot in hell Barr
We can’t agree to allocate money towards keeping bridges from collapsing, but this gets a budget approval. USA is a damn joke and the rest of the world is catching on damn quick.
So, it’s basically the same shit, different boss. Whoever’s president doesn’t matter. [snip]
Oh shit just real I no longer have a country; yet I’ll fight like hell at our government for violating our rights.
I wonder. I always imagined things had to get worse before they get better. Is this the point where the system becomes so unwieldy, it starts to fall apart?
This is awful but not surprising at all. Janice, what happens now with CA? Does this change our entire Tiered System. 288’s on tier 3 and now CP on Tier 1. I think this is the big worry for many of us. Do you feel CA will follow and finally become SORNA compliant? Thank you.
As a refresher, here are earlier ACSOL articles about what the proposed SORNA changes will mean for Registrants:
https://all4consolaws.org/2020/08/federal-government-publishes-proposed-changes-to-sorna/
https://all4consolaws.org/2020/09/proposed-sorna-regulations-would-add-uncertainty-to-registrants-lives/
https://all4consolaws.org/2020/10/acsol-and-allies-submit-formal-response-to-proposed-sorna-regulations/
Hope this is helpful to everyone.
We REALLY need everyone to fight against these horrendous SORNA changes!
If there was ever a time to over-turn Smith v. Doe (2003), it is the present. This will vitiate the vested rights of any and all individuals who have successfully been removed from their registration requirements under operation of State law, especially those with Court orders stating they no longer have a duty to register.
Our government is sick, twisted, and evil. Nothing changes!
MORE FEDERAL LAW INTRUSION into the day to day lives of individual citizens sovereignty clearly denoted as a State’s domain. A republic not kept.
Here they come, you guys still wanna keep trying hold on to whats left of your old lives, the other hafe of people on the list hide in the shadows to ashamed
to step into the light.
The feds are just waiting for every state to finish reclassify offenders, then they’ll come in and put their stamp on it.
15-25 years on the registry for Tier 1, Tier2 offenders and life for all Tier 3 offenders.
Unfortunately this doesn’t have any impact on my life, I wish people would just stop trying be normal and become the nightmare their so afraid of, A sex offender with a voice willing to fight back.
The only reason SONRA was created because the sex offender community was starting to get to big they might cause some kind of up rising and states started growing tired of managing sex offenders and started creating was for them to possibly go free the federal government ain’t letting no one go free anytime soon
Good luck yall
This is terrible. I’m pretty sure the goal is to make SORNA as convoluted as possible so that even though registration is non punitive, the laws are impossible to follow with the ultimate goal of punishing, re-punishing and punishing even some more anyone who ever committed a sex offense using FTR.
They especially want to re-punish those who haven been on a registry for a long time (like me not having been on any registry for almost 12 years – after spending 11 years on one) by those people having no clue they are expected to attempt some kind of registration even though not required by state law and then nailing them with a federal FTR and locking them up for far longer than their original sentence.
Stated another way, those of us who committed crimes back before this country became ridiculously crazy about sex crimes – and received ‘too good’ of plea deals because the punishments we’re more reasonable (there was more judicial discretion for punishments tailored to the specific circumstances of the crime), can not possibly have been properly punished enough Therefore, the goal is to get these ones on an FTR, you know like 23+ years later so they can lock them up again and get a do over punishment disguised as an FTR. Nice!
If this were really about protecting the public as they claim, then there would also be a ‘murderer’ registry, a ‘drug dealer’ registry, and a DUI registry. This plainly shows they are NOT interested in protecting the public or those offenders would have a registry too.
They are liars!!
Why can’t ALI or it’s members step in or ask to meet with the President, or the AG. This would go completely against their recommendations, and the President and the AG need to be contacted. This is not a political issue, and i think that ALI should step in as they have enough clout to get a meeting. I couldn’t find anything on their website that states that they can’t or wont get involved.
The more rights that are stripped away from a group of Americans, the more there is the probability that rights will be stripped from all Americans. Much of America is feeling that right now, and they are not liking it and are getting angry. For Americas sake they need to use their power and influence in this instance.
Everyone, look up as many names as you can on the registry and start sending them physical mails on this issue, so that they can be alerted to alert their families, friends and allies on this issues! They need to get involved, and there’s no other way to contact them to inform them!
We need to do it!! No excuse.
And, if I have to be labeled some troublemaking busybody on the way, it is well worth the irritation.
Wouldn’t these rules be immediately at odds with the Federal Does II decision, which stated that forcing existing registrants in Michigan to provide Internet IDs was ex post facto punishment, as were tier assignments? It seems like enforcement of this rule could be stopped with an injunction?
So all the work that has been done in Michigan with our lawsuits are for naught.
And the government wonders why some people blow up government buildings. If this crap goes into law, I’m moving out of this damn country. Enough is enough.
Merrick Garland was recently a member of the American Law Institute, which just drafted recommendations AGAINST Sorna! He knows all the research that went into it. Why would he even THINK of considering this?? Makes no sense.
This should get interesting. In the 6th circuit federal court, it has been declared that the registry IS punishment. How can they retroactively increase the punishment?
If this would be approved could be the catalyst to get Smith Vs Doe overturned. Now I have more questions than answers.
Its sick BUT …… This is what they did to all of us in Michigan years ago ,Via mail man lol (letter of life, life sentence by mail man ) that our state sent us in 2011 its crazy to see 10 years later they have decided to apply it to the entire nation , Welcome to the retroactive club ! This is Punitive and Punishment at the Highest Level . Looks like the Supreme Court will get its wish. They asked for something else to rule on this is it “The Big Fish” its time we all get back our rights its going to take something like this for them to finally realize they have taken this way to far. We couldn’t have got any luckier then to have Mr Bill Barr as the ring leader. Hail to the Chiefs ! .. BATTLES ON CHARGE !!!!!!!
Thank you Janice for bringing this to our attention. I went ahead and left a detailed voice message with the DOJ expressing my absolute displeasure about this recent proposed bill on where they are considering registraints to register every 3 months. Enough is enough! Everyone who is on the registration, including their family and friends, all need to stand up and fight to regain our freedom that continues to be taken away from us on a daily basis. I am all for peaceful demonstrations, where every registrant, families and friends unite to fight against the horrible injustices that this country continues to impose against us in regards to our civil rights. The demonization against all registraints from our society needs to end now!
Ok. Here’s the thing. If you are under Megan’s law, he CANNOT put you under a new law, because that means the sentence handed down by your original Judge would be vacated by him and he would be re-sentencing you making him into a ‘Judge’ himself, and he cannot constitutionally do that due to ‘Separation of Powers’ no matter how you slice it or how you word it.
You cannot instantly place someone from a previous law under a new law without a new trial and due process, because that is a RAPE and violation of the legal system and the Constitution!!
I encourage everyone to act on this. I called, messaged and sent my letter. We all know this will significantly impact each and everyone of us in horrific ways. Venting to each other is therapeutic, but it would serve the cause more to take the time to First call, message, write and mail your concerns to Garland, then take the time to vent on this board. Action first, venting second. The naysayers will all tell me that it will do no good, but how do you know if you don’t try? I thought the same negative thoughts a decade ago when I met Janice. I thought she was out of her mind thinking she could change things. But she did. Now its our turn. Call, message and write!
I have forwarded the email to several others, I have left a message on the phone line, I have emailed, and I wrote a letter. If the millions affected by these changes all do all 3, they will be tabulating for months. I also included a statement about the burden on local law enforcement. We are short about 25% of officers now. Not possible for this to be implemented fairly.