Source: ACSOL
A committee of the California Sex Offender Management Board (CASOMB) met today to discuss proposed changes to the Tiered Registry Law. During that meeting, the committee confirmed their support for three of seven changes to the Tiered Registry Law proposed by ACSOL earlier this year.
First, the committee supports the reduction of some felony convictions for child pornography (CP) from Tier 3 to Tier 2. The reduction to Tier 2 would be limited to convictions for CP possession only and not include distribution or production of CP.
Second, the committee supports the reduction of convictions for PC 288(c)(1) from Tier 3 to Tier 2. The basis for this support is that convictions for PC 288(a), a similar offense with a younger victim, are currently assigned to Tier 2. One committee member added that the original language of the Tiered Registry Law did, in fact, assign convictions for PC 288(c)(1) to Tier 2, but that language was changed due to a political compromise.
Third, the committee supports creation of an off-ramp for those assigned to Tier 3 who have not re-offended after 30 years. This off-ramp would allow those assigned to Tier 3 to petition for removal from the registry.
The committee will next meet on June 15 following the full CASOMB meeting to discuss these changes further. The ultimate goal of the committee is to make recommendations to CASOMB that will, in turn, be shared with the state legislature.
During today’s meeting, ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci was asked to provide information to the committee members. During her comments, she stated that the federal government views CP offenses in a different way than what is currently being considered. That is, the federal government distinguishes only between production and non-production offenses. The federal government assigns those convicted of a production CP offense to Tier 2 while those convicted of a non-production offense are assigned to Tier 1. The committee asked Bellucci to provide additional information regarding this topic before their meeting on June 15.
“We are encouraged that CASOMB has confirmed its support for 3 of the 7 changes proposed by ACSOL earlier this year,” stated Bellucci. “It is our understanding that CASOMB may later choose to support additional proposed changes in the future.”
No deal. Possession has to be tier one or the whole thing is dropped. Half ass changes aren’t changes at all.
This is a terrible deal they’re giving us.
This is good. For those of you that disagree, you can enjoy your lifetime with no exit registration.
Would misdemeanor or felony that are reduced to misdemeanors in terms of CP and 288c1 be assigned to tier 1?
For those of us convicted of CP possession, this is like them agreeing to take their knee off our necks, and instead just use their elbow while shouting at us to stop resisting.
But all in all, I am grateful for some movement, at long last, in the right direction. And many, many thanks to Janice. A job very well done. Now, let’s hope our legislators do the right thing.
This is called “Get the best deal you possibly can today and try to get a better one tomorrow.” Welcome to political reality. This is just CASOMB, though, now it has to go before the Legislature and then the Governor. Is it terrible? You bet! Do we have any other opportunities to get something better? No. This would still represent a material improvement over what we have today and, without ACSOL, we wouldn’t even have that.
30 year off ramp now, 20 year off ramp later.
Lets go.
30 years! Tier 3 would be allowed to petition to be removed after 30 years is nuts. As I have said, a murder charge with chance of parole is 20-25 years which Tier 3 should be less than. Heck, even equal to it would be better, but the taking of a life is much worse overall. CASOMB is wielding their power because they can w/o any rational thought behind it. The pineapple express has waterlogged their what little of craniums they do have this winter.
This is good news but when does it become reality? Bottom-line it needs to get to the legislation to even pass, we are only in the CASOMB agreement stage. Does anyone know when this might be a reality rather than a could happen situation. Please reply if anyone knows. My guess is Janice knows more less a timeline after June meeting.
Any talk of introducing language in the future that’ll allow you to downgrade from tier 2 to tier 1?
I’ve endured 12 years of absolute mayhem on the hit list, not sure I can endure another 8 of being impoverished and unemployed. There has gotta be a way for those of us who simply want to work and be normal.
Chipping away, thank you so so much Janice and team!
I hope your in the ear of the US. House Speaker too!
Ask him how many tech sector campaign donations he has gotten would be my question. His parents are D’s, I read.
Imagine that.
If everyone would only have continued reading before complaining about CP charges being only reduced to Tier 2 would have noticed that Janice is still fighting to get possession reduced to Tier 1 by returning “to provide additional information regarding this topic before their meeting on June 15″.
Meaning she is coming back with ammo to fight CP possession down to Tier One like how the Federal Government views those types of charges.
You go get’em Janice!
you know its funny how people have no problem putting 288a neck on the line. what if they say well lets just change the law, and put them in tier three with them? while using some one else. That’s like the guy who preyed to God and said will you help me. Because I’m not like this guy or that guy
30 years off ramp for T3 is crazy. What is wrong with 25? I get the “incremental approach” but this is starting HIGH, at the Apex and working our way down in small increments. I have a family and I’m already past my middle ages. By the time I even qualify, I’m done. There’s nothing left for me but sit in a rocking chair half my days or enjoy small walks in a small garden.
And those of us on T3 with a victimless crime still have no recourse.
@janice when you go back on the fifteenth can you reiterate how after 20 years would be more effectively productive for the person whom hasn’t reoffended ( subsequent). Because, like myself and I’m sure many others like myself , who have been on this hit list over 20 years , would like to retire some time in the very very near future and move the hell out of California without carrying this 800 lb gorilla to the next phase of our lives . For me , if this off ramp is passed and effectively implemented forthwith. This would be the biggest sigh of relief you could not possibly imagine. Thank you and the team at ACSOL . P.s. I pray I could change my username ASAP!
As I approach the 30-year anniversary of my Price Club membership, the thought of a life liberated from the public registry seems like a fantasy. Could it actually come true? I usually dismiss such thoughts and snap myself back to reality, but maybe now I’ll let myself dream a little.
For you guys just starting out with lifetime T3, I know three decades might as well be never and I hope it gets radically reduced, but for this long hauler, I’ll take it.
Ha! Ha! That’s a good one William. I would say step over here to Minnesota so you don’t have to wear that sh*t, but Wisconsin will still require you to keep registering and updating your info. Your info won’t be public for cp possession in Minnesota. However, Wisconsin will publicize your Minnesota address, and the private “child safety” sites will get hold of it. I also heard that the national site has a geographical locator that also publicizes the out of state address you updated with your conviction state. Therefore, you’ll stick out more on those sites since the vast majority of registrants info is note made public in MN. All this because Wisconsin is one of the two stupid states that want former residents to keep registering.
To all of you complaining and screaming that nonsense about:
“No deal!”
“It is assuredly not good enough!”
“It’s clear that these “reforms” are useless!”
“It is unfortunate that ACSOL appears to spend most of its time and resources trying to fix or correct the tiered registry rather than abolishing it!”
“Just follow the science data!”
“They can do the reverse if they truly wanted to!”
“If the big fight is not to abolish the registry en totem, then there’s really not much point in fighting at all!”
“Removing the RSO laws is akin to digging out the stump after the tree has been cut down!”
“This is a terrible deal they’re giving us!”
“Tier 3 would be allowed to petition to be removed after 30 years is nuts!”
“Why are you excited for something that’s only offering you false hope!?”
To all of you [quoted] champions of hope:
Boy, am I glad that you’re NOT the ones making the legal arguments to CASOMB on our behalf. (Said as I wipe sweat from my brow)
So basically nothing happens for the CP offenders. Almost EVERY CP conviction includes a “distribution” charge since they tack that on because they found you because you “distributed” the files. I don’t know why I keep hoping that this nightmare ends. It won’t.
Five years ago, I remember sitting in prison contemplating a move back to my hometown after my release date. My family still has property sitting empty out in California, so I thought what the hell. At least they wouldn’t put my address out there, although someone would figure me out since the zip code covers the whole darn town. Then talk of tier reform started up, and I thought there’d be no lifetime registering in Cali for my cp offense. About the same time, I got a rude awaking from my conviction state of Wisconsin. Their DOC thugs first sent me a letter telling me I’m now a lifetime registrant and I have to wear an ankle bracelet; all because I looked at some dirty underage pictures on the internet. After Gov Evers won the election, he appointed a new DOC head—Uncle Tom Kevin Carr. Now this fella agreed with the former AGs stupid interpretation that being convicted on more than one count makes one a repeat offender. So a person can have sex with the governor’s 15 year old grandchild, and won’t have to register for life. But look at a couple of 70s era European cp photos, you got life, baby. Then I found out that Wisconsin would still make me register even if I moved to California; therefore my out of state address will be in the system. As you might expect, my ideas about moving back to Cali quickly went down the gutter. So when I learned that they changed cp offenses from tier 1 to 3, it really didn’t make a difference to me, because I had long abandoned my California plans, and decided to try my hand overseas. That’s what I’m working on now. I understand the frustration of Calfornia registrants who had something, and it got taken away. But I believe you’ll get it back with the help of Janice who is trying hard to turn a bad situation into a good situation by chipping away at the rock. Be glad you weren’t convicted in Wisconsin. Your life would really be a living hell. Peace family.
Although I’m happy with anything chipping away at this scheme, I am guilty of 311.1A which is a misdemeanor and a 311.2(d) which is a felony from the year 2000. It would appear that the 311.2(d) would remain a tier 3. If that’s correct , that’s disappointing. I was hoping to get off this thing by 2024.
Thanks for all your hard work on this Janice. Question for anyone… when does the clock start ticking? 10 years from date of conviction? 10 years from arrest? 10 years from the first time you registered? 10 years from what date? Thank you all.
So what does this mean for those of us convicted already of 311.1a? I have less than 4 years to go before my 10 years is up. Would I get bumped up to tier 2 and then have to go for a total of 20 years? My charge is misdemeanor due to 17b.
I’d like to remind those here that 17 years is the statistical point to some at which a non-repeat PFR is equivalent to a regular non-PFR citizen for being a potential sex offense threat. That used to be discussed here in detail when discussing Hansen, individual assessments, and tiering structure. It’s probably less than that when it comes to actual individual assessments. It seems to me that’s been forgotten here.
IIRC, I even mentioned then that would mean three more years of registry punishment for Tier 2 and 13 for Tier 3 when the basis was being discussed. With that context, how does the registry timeline look now? Do people in those two tiers who are statistically equivalent to a non-PFR feel any better knowing CASOMB most likely knows this but won’t acknowledge or care enough to put it into the calculus for petition removal years? This is where the registry deviates from being the intended document to further punishment for those folks with this info. BTW, CA loves Hansen so use his data to get things correct now and question CASOMB why the added years. Yes, yes, legislatures et al don’t care about data that works against their narratives. Wimps.