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On the Orange County Board of Supervisors Agenda for November 5 – an ordinance dealing with dangerous and vicious dogs (those that have bitten without provocation), including the creation of a web site to list said animals. http://cams.ocgov.com/Web_Publisher/agenda11_05_2013.htm #29

It is noteworthy that the dogs are entitled to a hearing prior to declaration and public display. http://cams.ocgov.com/Web_Publisher/Agenda11_05_2013_files/images/40-09172013.PDF (page 4)

I would like to make a general comment to all the other RSO who read this website. I would like to state that you are part of a brave group of people. We have been labeled as evil dowers and labeled as outcasts undeserving to live with the decent folk of this great country. Well, I have to say, hogwash, BS, and I don’t think so! You/we are just as worthy of breathing the same air as everyone else. We have the right to go anywhere we want. We have the right to say anything we want. We have value… Read more »

Hi Tired of hiding. I too am tired of hiding, and I am not a “sex offender”, yet every time I have spoken with the thug’s/police, they have aggressively tried to get me to forfeit my rights (all this while wearing an American flag, which I find extremely insulting) and in general just harassed me. A REAL American is not into tyranny and oppression like the state and their thug’s are. What I was convicted of did not involve another living entity (other than the loser chick that looked at some pictures with me, and who called the police on… Read more »

I agree. Ban the term. Even for those once convicted of touching someone. The word is in the present tense, does not give correct information about a person’s present motives or actions. It’s like calling someone who had committed fraud years ago a “con artist” or a former member of a gang a “gangster”. “sex offender” is a colloquial term, not a formal statement of fact. It’s use amounts to propaganda.

When I get up in the morning, I’m deeply troubled by whats going on in this country. In most of the other countries, individuals with issues or those who broke the law are treated much differently. Those of us in this country are treated in almost an angry fashion. I mean, you go to jail or prison and the individuals running the establishment are angry, corrupt and they treat most of the inmates as though they are less than animals. This is highly disturbing. Most recently, an oversight committe was put into place to oversee the conduct of the Sheriffs… Read more »

Right! I always emphasize FORMER sex offenders, as current ones are sent to jail or prison. AUTOMATICALLY, ANY registrant is a FORMER offender.

I always say that I had an “unfortunate incident” in my past. If pressed I explain that I got bad legal advice and took a plea bargain which I regret doing but at the time seemed like the easy way out.

Big mistake and I continue to pay to this day. I was never accused of harming anyone…touching anyone at all.

I tell them that it was a victim-less crime…well, not exactly victim-less…I am the only victim.

I often wonder with the statistics of repeat drunk driver offenders why restrictions never happened like 1,000 feet from a bar or place that sells alcohol. Repeat offender drunk drivers kill more children than sex offenders in one year. How many innocent lives could be saved? If it’s just one child. Why not say repeat drunk drivers can’t live near schools or playgrounds? Drunk driving costs billions of dollars a year and one out of three will re offend compared to 2.7% of sex offenders. It seems alittle hypocritical to me. If you live next door to a guy that… Read more »

That would mean the politicians would have to lay off the hard stuff. Plug, the big producers of alcohol would cut off their “donations” to any politician that proposed something like that. But…you are correct.

Out of 1,315,600 missing kids 115 were snatched in the sense that everybody is worried about.

Of missing children who were stereotypically kidnapped and killed totaled 40. That’s a terrible and terrifying number but really puts things into proper prospective.

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_overview.pdf

Hypocrite public policy puts families and children lives in danger everyday……the under the influence driver puts everyones lives in danger…put their names in a registry….restrict their freedom….restrict their rights….For Our Children.

@ Freebird; statistically that’s 0.0087% that get snatched, however how many of those taken are taken by family members or people known to the family? Those that are killed total 0.003% but the numbers don’t add up…if RSO’s pose the danger law enforcement and politicians say we are shouldn’t the number be higher? Population under 18 in the US is 73 million, which means that about 1 in 70 kids goes missing or runs away. Of the 115 that get snatched, that totals about 0.0002% of minor population. If 40 of the 73 mil are killed, that’s 0.00005% of minor… Read more »

FBI says on average, there are only two children a year per state kidnapped by strangers. And that number has not changed in at least the past 50 years.

(Of course, as averages work, a state with a big population — California has the biggest population of any state — would be expected to have more than two and would l be balanced out by a state with little population — maybe Wyoming — that has 1 or none.)

Very interesting research article about how misguided and stereotypical the perception of sex offenders is throughout society and the sociology and psychology behind that, how misguided the registry is, and lots of etcetera.

Today in kabc news…after thirty-four years in prison for
a crime he didn’t commit…released to freedom……….
good for him and his family finally……wrongful false conviction still exist for some still…..this registry is as
good as a corrupt trial.

Interesting articles clearly demonstrating the double standard and hypocrisy we are forced to live under. http://www.oncefallen.com/SOLawsAndSexScandals.html http://www.humanevents.com/2006/10/03/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in-congress/ http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3546350&page=1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092901574.html Foley basically admits his guilt in this one. http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/transcript/hannity-mark-foley-breaks-his-silence Foley basically admits his guilt in this one. Why is t6his a-hole not prosecuted? He’s the one that pushed the adam walch act through congress. http://savannahnow.com/node/360206 –and– http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB118782905698506010.html — John Walsh tells us NEVER hire a male babysitter. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/zap-presstournotes,0,1056741.story?coll=bal-news-nav — and — http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501590_pf.html — John Walsh’s “exploding anus chips” speech By the way; I’ll bet there is not too many people that know John Walch was discovered trying to have a sexual… Read more »

there isn’t enough room here to tell my story. I have been thinking of doing a documentary of living in california labled as a sex offender 290. Maybe I will see you all at the RSOL meeting on the 16th of this month and tell you how it feels. thank you greg scott 290 parolee, that never hurt a child EVER and I am living with this.the laws got to change to fit individual crimes or persons.

Don’t believe anything you read and half of what you hear, but here is proof that this country jumped the shark: 40 year old teacher arrested at his school for two counts of ‘aggravated sexual battery’ (inappropriate touching = aggravated sexual battery – really????) over two year period 27 years ago. Like many commenters point out he must have been around 13 at the time. Again – we are talking touching in the mid 1980s – during the Reagan Administration. http://wtvr.com/2013/11/12/godwin-high-school-teacher-arrested/ Henrico Schools released a statement saying: “Our understanding is that the matter involves neither school property nor our students.… Read more »

As a great sales trainer (who probably wouldn’t appreciate being quoted here) said,”Nobody cares about YOU…they care about THEMselves.” Another line to remember is, “You wouldn’t care so much what people thought about you if you knew how rarely they did.” Both of these quotes go out the window if you are an RSO though, because people see you on the internet and assume they know anything about you, and what they think they know is that you are a threat to THEM–their kids in particular. This is why we’re never going to win this battle pointing out how unjust… Read more »

C: The teacher was charged with consensual sodomy? OMG

I have posted here before and I talked about the difference of living on parole and off parole as a 290 registrant. C.D.C.R. is the large and in charge enforcer of all the unfair laws and restrictions that hamper a persons life. When I was off parole for 13yrs., I was only required to register once a year. I lived where I wanted I was not molested by the police and I was free to choose my life as I pleased. The public does not know that when a person has served their time and completed parole or probation they… Read more »

Punishing women as men would mean women are equal to men. Can’t upset the storyline of women as victim. Got to keep them equal to irresponsible children the big daddy state must protect. Of course, if she were black….

I believe that because of 290 registration and treatment of all registrants, there is a new and overlooked disorder that I’ve discovered. Most registered citizens have this disorder; PASD or Post Arrest Stress Disorder. Yep, symptoms appear to be not wanting to go out in public for fear of retribution/vigilante activity, a touch of paranoia, excessive worry, fear when new laws are passed, acute unemployment, , homelessness, poverty, forced separation from loved ones. I’m sure there’s many more…Geez, I gotta go see my shrink about this.

Actually, while you are being facetious, you might really be on to something. This really is something the shrinks should consider and declare a real medical issue, just like PTSD. I would call this Post Traumatic Registration Disorder (PTRD), to really put the blame where it belongs. It really is true that you live is fear and stress and isolation that bends your brain and causes such things as sleep issues, serious anxiety, fear, humiliation and deep depression — which themselves bring on other problems and acting out. It all snowballs and becomes deep issues. Such longrunning stresses literally take… Read more »

Just an arbitrary comment regarding statutory rape in the media. There is a show called “The Tomorrow People” which the lead protagonist is a 16-year old boy. I won’t get into the specifics of the show (people with teleporting powers fighting evil government bastards wanting to kill them, etc.). Rather, I am going to comment that the lead female, Cara, who ostensibly is mid to late 20’s, has a sexual tryst with the 16-year old. (In New York, the age of consent is 17.) In the state of NY, this “tryst” would lead Cara to be tried and convicted of… Read more »

I think it is revealing to point out this hypocrisy. Kind of like Miley Cyrus getting away with things you wouldn’t let your daughter do. Thank you.
What bothers me also is the formula the entertainment industry uses to portray salvation for the sex offender. He can only find redemption one of two ways: Commit suicide (Cider House Rules) or be killed (American Beauty). Would like to know of a main stream movie that portrays the life of an offender (or any marginalized group) honestly.

question:

What is the motive for the polygraph test on everyone who committed a “crime” after the 2010 cut off date?

Keep statistics on individuals?

Incriminate?

Keep individuals longer in therapy?

I would greatly appreciate peoples input…..

From what I’ve read and heard….The poly exam is not an accurate science.

polygraph results are not accepted as evidence in court. I have read that it is used during probation and parole as an intimidation tactic. There is also the fact that you must repeat the test until you pass (indefinite is a fail) and it costs the parolee/probationer approx. $300 a shot. Milkin’ that cash cow.

Everywhere I look I see state SO cases but I can’t find anything about federal cases. I’m in Los Angeles county, where a judge made it possible for state parolees to avoid the 2000 feet restriction but because he specifically mentions parole, I’m told by my federal PO that it doesn’t apply to me. Keep in mind that my conditions of release say I can’t live within 300 feet (I was convicted in another state). I’m almost out of the halfway house and there’s basically nowhere I can live. I’m nearly out of options and completely out of money to… Read more »

Well, the statutes can readily be found online, as well as the rulings, for both state and federal (try Findlaw.com). But you pretty much have to already know what case you are looking for. Maybe one of the paid services, like Lois Law, provides annotated statutes to help you find all the rulings pertaining to them. Other than that, Calfornia has a great law library system open to the general public. You can go to the law library — there are several around Los Angeles County — and go through all the books there. You can look at the state… Read more »

Anon, your comment tells me you are much more familiar with state cases, as the Feds don’t have parole. I agree, it doesn’t make sense that the case wouldn’t apply to me but that’s what my PO is saying. And having just gotten out of prison, I don’t have a dime to spend on an attorney. That’s why I’m trying my luck here, hoping someone in here has a Fed case and they’re living within 2000 feet and can point me to a case I can show my PO.

Just as an unimportant aside, how can you have a PO if there is no federal parole?! Or, did you mean you are on probation, not parole, and the ruling apples only to parole, not to probation? It is true that the state law places residency restrictions on parolees regardless of any other law applying residency restrictions. That ruling might have been in a case based on someone challenging the law regarding parolees. From that, it would seem to follow that they are saying the ruling apples only to parolees, not anyone on probation — whether the probation is federal… Read more »

ITS OUR TIME TO SPEAK UP! We’ve been to every meeting in Los Angeles. Janice Bellucci is our attorney. I am obviously MM and my fiancé doesn’t go on this site … It’s too much for him (25+years is a long time ago) . ,. as I’ve read sooo many stories. I share with him what everyone writes .. . We are the couple that are is suing the city of Cypress, January’ 2013., who have passed residency restrictions. They said he had to move, July 2012, we sued. We are still in limbo. I have lived in the home… Read more »

@MM – You’re suing….that’s good….stay on it…keep it on the pedal…don’t give up….restrictions are further punishment
and they have violated a slew of civil rights violations ….big
time….please keep us posted….this helps all…don’t give up…
Thank you.

I have a question for everybody, so if you have any experience, please post an answer. Has anyone ever requested personal information via the Freedom of Information Act? Is it possible to get that from FBI, ICE, DOJ and other agencies that may have files on registered citizens?

Does anyone know what the latest is on Jessicas law? I’m looking to buy a house and want to know what my options are. I’m in Huntington Beach now and when I moved here I talked to the police department and was told that they know of no city enforcing the law. My current residence is less than the 2000 feet the law requires. Any information would be helpful.

This is just a general observation about comments on this site and the attitude of registrants in general: We’re so focused on what we cannot do that we’ve been conditioned to accept defeat and a continual erosion of our civil rights. On the eve of the 50th anniversary of the passing of perhaps the greatest president in U.S. history, it’s important to remember these words:

“There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why…I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?”

Sadly it’s not just the anniversary of his killing (passing to just to…oh I don’t know…passive)…but also pretty much the last time that progress was actually possible.

I truly think that was killed along with JFK that day.

Video: Matt Damon on Civil Disobedience
This video has a lot of relevance to our fight against this unjust registry we are fighting.

http://youtu.be/9KxOVy52EiE

I’ve been thinking that too, considering the lying and treachery in the courts at every level and across the country (if you read many of these rulings, you will see lying at every turn, blatent lying — BLATENT, It is shocking how corrupt it is, they just rule that black is white if it suits their purpose), not to mention the legislators, what you suggest here is now necessary. When all civil approaches have been corrupted (beyond anything anyone 20 years ago ever would have thought could ever happen in America) and blocked, there is no other way. In fact… Read more »

did the ca supreme court rule on lifetime registery i heard that there is a way to get off of that now could you send me the info if this is true thank you

You can get your FBI or state “rap”sheet. Other records would depend on what they are. You fill out their form, provide a set of fingerprints, pay a fee, and mail it all in. You can get only your own records — how funny to still have laws that respect people right to privacy and designed to make it so they are not humiliated considering they now post it all on tee Internet!

2 days ago, I took my 2 year old to a park to play. When we were leaving, we walked back to where we parked. Along the way, we passed a middle-aged lady walking her dog on the bike trail. We said ‘Hi,’ waved at the dog and had a couple friendly sentences of small talk in passing. As I was buckling my baby in, I heard a commotion down the trail and saw a man shoving her and yelling. I shouted out,”Hey!” And took a couple steps closer to hopefully discourage whatever badness was transpiring. This backfired big time,… Read more »

Crazy. Any idea what his problem was? Unfortunately, I think a good general rule for any family listed on a Sex Offender Registry is to avoid helping other people. It can easily lead to trouble. Help people you know and forget about everyone else. The lady you were trying to help was likely someone who loves nanny big government and would say you are a monster who should not be in parks. No need to help people you don’t know. Personally, I find it amazing that the bigmouth criminal politicians who support these parks, etc. bans are too weak to… Read more »

Well I just had a Security Specialist at Internal Revenue Service look @ my profile on LinkedIn & IDK REALLY Why other than I am out spoken “1st amendment rights” Non violent group and general conversations…SO WE ARE Still Targets Folks Be careful what You say about the law & or cops Or Government is all I can say I really don’t Know any other reason I haven’t Done anything else to My Knowledge. Being Outspoken on a Social Media site Gets them Looking @ You it’s not good that I Am sure of I’m shuttin’ down & not gonna… Read more »

This just in. Suspect in O.C. homeless slayings dies before trial http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-homeless-ocampo-20131129,0,2963997.story#axzz2m3n9am9m

How it is relevant here is that one of the murdered homeless men was a registrant and homeless and in harms way only as a direct consequence of a decades old conviction as a teen.

…was living in a home approved for sex offenders when he violated his parole by having lunch with a fellow sex offender. He spent a few months behind bars and, when he got out, he’d lost his room. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/jimmy-336669-middaugh-says.html

Another victim of the registry.

Actually, two were registrants. One was off parole, the second was on parole. I was on parole in the same office and had seen Middaugh around several times before he was murdered.

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