Senator Scott Wiener, author of the Tiered Registry Bill (SB 421), has waived presentation regarding that bill on May 15, the original date on which the Senate Appropriations Committee was scheduled to consider the bill. Due to this waiver, SB 421 will be placed in the committee’s Suspense File and will not be considered until May 25.
According to staff in the office of Sen. Wiener, there is uncertainty regarding the estimate cost of implementing the Tiered Registry Bill. The estimated cost is expected to be revealed in a Budget Committee analysis which has not yet been completed.
“A tiered registry will save taxpayer dollars as well as increase the safety of taxpayers’ lives,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci. “It is our hope that the Appropriations Committee will consider future savings — of dollars and lives — when it reviews the Tiered Registry Bill.”
Maybe there are people behind the scenes that want to keep that cost high because it’s job security for them.
unless… it’s the cost for running the courts to get registrants off the registry. There’s that.
I had a feeling something like this was coming…
And the cost as well as danger of spreading police resources to monitor tens of thousands of people who present no danger to the public? Where is that immediate consideration?
Is this good news or bad news ??
It will also put thousands back to work by lifting the burden of the registry and letting them be able to get real jobs! It will also ease the burden of thousands having to register, saving the State untold man hours in registration and admin hours.
So now it’s on the suspense file, so what if no one picks it up? so what if theres no author to present the bill?? does it move forward? is it on hold until further notification?
It’s as if they’re saying, “WHOOPS, we started this wildfire. Now, do we have enough money to put it out, or should we just spend money to keep it burning.”
Morons!!!
I guess I will stand alone in terms of optimism. Janice and so many others have put their collective time, energy and reputation on the line for us all, rather deserved or not. This bill is as important to me as the rest of you, but I will not concede to defeat. People, we must be realistic, to the public and many lawmakers, this is not a popular bill; certainly you should anticipate a few snags. What ever comes easy? In the meantime lets pick up the phone and make calls, lets write to those that has influence. One way or the other I will be removed from this registry, rather the bill pass or not. Now, I am a praying man, and I do believe that this is the right time for God to pass the bill. When it does go through, will we live exemplary lives? I hope so.
This isn’t about money. it’s about politics. Anybody who sponsors this bill, or supports it in a vote, becomes an easy target for campaign ads. Can you imagine the campaign commercials from their opponents on the next go-around? This is why I continue to believe our only realistic chance at change is at the court level, not the legislative level. Politicians care about keeping their jobs just as much, or more, than any of the rest of us. They know they are taking a risk by supporting anything that appears to make them sympathetic to the lepers of our time.
It’s possible that the author is getting cold feet. He was getting some extremely negative feedback. It couldn’t hurt to call or write his office and express your support:
Sen. Scott Wiener
State Capitol, room 4066
Sacramento, CA
95814-4900
916-651-4011
Hi I am Jesse and accepted a plea in 1999 I was told I would get probation but it did not go the way it was supposed to, (We all know how manipulative the law and government is and how they use all things positive and negative to there advantage.) Suffice it to say after being lied to and serving time I was about to be paroled when finally they told me I can appeal it but if I did I may have to start all over again. Well I got out on parole completed my parole with no problem. and after being off parole for 10 years I moved to Oklahoma where I am not required to register by law , However because I am still on the registry in California ( Just because you do not have to register online does not mean you are not a registered offender ) and even though I am not required to register I still have mega problems because as a registered offender in any state when appartments do background search they still see that you were registered; and not from legal sites but instead from secondary sites which do not update there information . So even if you are not required by law to register and you are taken off of the registry please do not think it gets easier all of a sudden it does not I still cant get a job or an apartment or a life. If somehow this law passes I hope for the best but expect the worst and even though there are so many people who are so great in trying to help us it is a long time coming before we see a real end to this Ostracizing . We live in a society that has to have a scapegoat to make themselves feel better about themselves. or politicians who create new laws in an effort to have people see them as hard on crime and win sympathy votes. I believe this bill is a start to a better way but for all those who think because you can get off the registry does not mean you will . I’ll bet for the next 5 -10 years after this bill goes into effect you will find that less than 1_10% of the people eligible will actually get off . I do not mean to be a pessimist but lets do a reality check here do you think that because the bill goes into effect that they are going to take you off because you are eligible well ask your self how does it benefit society if you are taken off and if it does not , well… History is bound to repeat itself. ie bond servants slaves 500 years african slaves several hundred years gays etc etc all it shows is society does like to have some one to blame ….IMO= In My Opinion. PC 288 L & L touching may the God I know show love to all of you who seek help and I hope my opinion is helpful not hurtful .
We need to have faith that this bill is eventually going to pass! We all know that this is a taboo subject and affects all politicians and courts- someone mentioned that change would have to come from the court level. DA and judges in the courts are also elected and also subjected to political backlash from the public during elections.
We just have to keep SHOWING UP and WRITING and CALLING! This will PASS
To be perfectly honest, I truly believe that even if the bill made it all the way to the governor’s desk, that he would veto it!
Not trying to be negative , just realistic
I personally think the bill will pass! The Governor of Ca is rather liberal. It’s a no brainer. Plus, it’s a pretty fair bill . Let’s remain positive! The big issue will be the courts. Having to go to court to get off the Registry will overburden the courts. The bill should just allow you to fall off if you meet the parameters! Otherwise, unless the DA can say you have been re arrrsted numerous times etc, it’s a no brainer!
Is anyone really surprised…I mean, really? Be honest…sure it’s nice to think something good could happen but fantasy is all that is.
Why would you possibly think that something could really happen to allow you to have your life back…nonsense.
The government owns you and it is FOR LIFE.
Sorry to be a downer, but this bill or any bill or court case is not going to save you. It’s too big now. You have to drop out go somewhere nicer if you can or make fighting this stuff your life.
I’m torn between hiding under a rock and fighting with anything I can throw, all the while dreaming of relocating to a country that doesn’t hate me and I can forget all this.
Thing is, no oppressed group was ever saved, save by their own hands through sacrifice. That’s a hard lesson, but true.
This bill if it becomes law will safe the state tens or hundreds of millions in the long run. They must see that.
Guys, I understand the cynicism about this bill, but remember that Janice – who is a lawyer with a law degree and everything – has said that this bill would help many if not most registrants. So while venting on this site should be encouraged, let’s leave the analysis of the bill – and predictions of its effectiveness – to the legal professionals, shall we?
You know, I understand this site is for everyone because “We are all in this together” but it gets really old when there are those of us who face our crisis with hope and faith and courage and a willingness to keep trying, versus those who constantly spew negativity and pessimism. I have 25 years of this crap but I decided a long time ago that I would rather die trying to address the problem and try and fix it rather than give up and complain. Thanks to Janice and company, we all have this site to voice our concerns and yes, complain, but more of us should look to the positive and be grateful for the work so many people – who are not on the registry – are doing on our behalf. The question is “Are you participating in the fight or sitting on the sidelines quarterbacking?” Are you helpless or helpful? I encourage everyone to try and be positive because we have come a long way and we need winners who believe that there is a better tomorrow. Thanks to all those who supportive to the cause.
This bill sucks. Some things that concern me:
1. If the DA objects, then the decision to whether we are granted relief relies on an elected politician (judge).
2. Other concerns are the inclusion of possibly being required to complete a CASOMB-treatment program;
3. SARATSO / Static 99 scoring;
4. tiers (10 yr, 20 yr, lifetime) are completely inconsistent to empirical evidence.
The fact that we would need to petition is like adding salt to the wound. IF DA objects, then we have to pay out-of-pocket for psychological assessment and attorney’s fees (as I can never see myself going against the DA alone without a lawyer). IF DA objects, minimum costs could be $4,000 to $6,000. So this bill lines the pockets of lawyers with cash.
At the end: no guarantees.
Maybe fixes can be made to make this bill better though. Like making the removal process AUTOMATIC. No “petition” BS!
California has the largest registry in the world, mostly filled people who are not a threat to society. If this list grows at its current rate, it could potentially possess as many as one out of every hundred people living in the state. At that point it will be such a massive boondoggle and sinkhole for tax payer money and police resources it will simply implode. However, if this law passes, and the registry is fixed at this point it probably will survive into perpetuity. So perhaps its better that this tumor grows so as to kill the entire sex offender registry.
If there is another financial reason to go for the tiered approach to RSO; over the weekend the Governor propose spending a total of $33,000,000 on legal defense fund for illegals to fight deportation. If the bill will take thousands of us of the the registry then there is the money for the defense fund. Point to make to a appropriation committee??
Depending on underlying crime, a prison sentence doesn’t prevent the ability to get a COR. I spoke to Chance, Higbee, and a few other attorneys who confirmed this when I was looking for an attorney to ask if I am eligible. They all said yes even though I went to prison. Personally, I am in a strange position because while I would be able to get a CoR in 4 years under the current 290 scheme, I would be put into 2nd tier under tiered registry, so I would have to wait a total of 16 more years if this tiered were to pass. Obviously, I will get hurt; but I guess tiered MIGHT help others at the same time? I just don’t understand why the whole thing should be automatically falling off with good behavior after 20 yrs. Why do pre 1987’s get off automatically? The same standard should apply to everyone if this bill were to be more fair.
Not sure if this question belongs in this string but…has anyone with an “attempted 288(a)” received a COR? I have a good friend who is a criminal lawyer and he says NO WAY and yet I am getting deluged with letters want to ‘help get me off Megan;s”
Thanks
I haven’t posted or even read a post in 2 almost 3 years. You may remember me as the person whose daughter was born in 2014 and the social worker at the hospital called in the county human relations department on. My daughter, wife and I are all fine, still together and living in real housing. I’ve even managed to find new, better and better paying work still while complying with the current annual system thanks to the Fair Chance Ordinance in San Francisco that largely prevents employers from using any previous convictions against you. I won’t go into all the details and exceptions but if you live in the Bay Area I encourage to look it up and seek employment within SF city limits. But I digress.
I came back today because I saw Alameda County DA O”Malley on TV last night talking about being in favor of SB 421 and the Tiered Registry. The report last night made it sound like the legislation was still alive. Then I read here that the bill is in the Suspense File. I learned the hard way back in 2012 or 2013 what a Twilight Zone that is.
Can anyone tell me simply where SB 421 is today on 5-19-17? And if it passes and is signed into law would it be faster and easier to get off “the list” than if I can successfully complete a COR? For background I pled to a 311.11(a) possession charge in 2011, did 2/3s time on a 5 month sentence split between straight time and weekend county jail with final release from custody in May 2012, got early release from probation December 2013 with concurrent 17(b) wobbler reduction and 1203.4 expungement. I’m currently doing non-profit volunteer work on my own initiative that I’m documenting since June 2016 and that the local authorities know about and have written down in my annual paperwork.