Will SCOTUS Let Fear of Sex Offenders Trump Justice?

Two cases give the Court a chance to reconsider its counterintuitive conclusions about commitment and registration.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court, locking up sex offenders after they have completed their sentences is not punishment, and neither is branding them as dangerous outcasts for the rest of their lives. Two cases the Court could soon agree to hear give it an opportunity to reconsider, or at least qualify, those counterintuitive conclusions. Full Article

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Snyder vs Doe

Karsjens v Piper

 

 

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No surprise that Reason.com is on our side about this, but it’s still refreshing to see it out there (again). Also, as of my reading the article, there were only four comments from three posters–and were on our side.

Also, let’s hope that our fellow citizens who do not merit civil commitment are also blessed with a cert grant and get the justice and freedom they’ve been denied.

They are using the famous “Big Lie” to keep things under control and people convinced. The people would rather hear the popular lie about “sex offender registry not being punishment” and “high recidivism rate” to make everyone feel safe etc, than the unpopular truth that the registry destroys lives, and that people are being feed with falsehoods and junk science as manipulation to keep the registry system maintained. The question is how do you break that cycle of manipulation and helping others wake up?

This is quite a quote: “The Supreme Court has upheld post-prison commitment of sex offenders, accepting the pseudoscientific claim that a propensity to commit a certain type of crime is an illness that mental health professionals can cure (in this case, an illness defined by state legislators rather than psychiatrists). But the Court has warned that imposing punishment in the guise of treatment may be unconstitutional.”

I’m liking Jacob Sullum more-and-more.

This line from the amicus filed by the CATO Institute opposing the sex offender detention scheme is powerful. The authors of the amicus note that “Sex offender laws have bored a hole in the nation’s constitutional fabric.” I hope that the SCOTUS elects to hear both of these important cases and uses this opportunity to fix a problem that they largely allowed by relying on debunked statistics to justify the abuse of registrants.

not meaning to be pessimistic, but hopefully they don’t take the cases and claim recidivism rates are irrelevant to their constitutional decisions. We’ll see..Scrotus is kind of coming under the gun in that every news outlet and all the professionals are calling the courts decisions out…

“WILL SCOTUS LET FEAR OF SEX OFFENDERS TRUMP JUSTICE?”

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the did. Did not the supreme court recently cite a “frightening and high” 80% probability for registrants to re-offend? Are these not the made up “statistical” odds cited by almost everyone in all levels of government who count personal gain, self preservation and how they are perceived among themselves and by their useful idiots (the public) above truth, honesty and high moral principals? Nope; I ain’t holding my breath. They’ll probably cite the manufactured fear created by their kind as their logic to “trump justice.” And this they will call justice. They act on what is the opposite of truth. And all the other side of truth leaves is what is called a lie. Truth is light and lies are darkness.

“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.” –  Plato

According to Florida Action Committee, Snyder hearing was denied by SCOTUS.

Just wanted to let you know I did try and contact that attorney a few weeks ago, but have still heard nothing back. I sent him an email with the question you wanted answered along with some other issues i want to tackle. I know he is in the process of filing an additional lawsuit relating to rc’s so he may be really busy. When I fully recover from what im dealing with, i plan to more aggressively pursue legal consel about some things i want addressed. If i havent heard from him ill find someone else. I have your question saved and ill be sure to ask it as soon as I can find someone to ask. Just didnt want you to think I wasnt trying haha.