Pennsylvania State Police have started the process for removing as many as 5,000 ex-offenders from the Megan’s Law registry under a state supreme court mandate and a new law.
Shaquana Green appeared at a Pennsylvania State Police barracks last month to update her information as a registered sex offender. It’s an annual chore she has done for the last five years, having landed on the Megan’s Law list after disappearing with her daughter for three hours in violation of a custody order.
As of this month, though, the name of the 26-year-old Northampton County resident no longer appears on the registry, under a state Supreme Court ruling and a new exemption for parents who had been charged with interfering with custody of children, but no sex crime.
“I get to have my life,” Green said last week. “This is more than a blessing.”
Last year, the state Supreme Court ruled retroactive application of the state’s version of the new, tougher Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act was unconstitutional. In response, state lawmakers passed House Bill 631, a stop-gap measure to keep up to 12,000 individuals on the registry, but that included an exemption for legal guardians charged with interference with custody of children. Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law Feb. 21. The exemption applies to only legal guardians of children, though another bill in the state Senate would remove interference with custody of children as a Megan’s Law offense; Pennsylvania and Louisiana are the only states where the crime is considered a violent sex offense even when no sexual contact occurred.
@robin
So tell me this jennifer front desk rep handles 1,700+ reviews. And everyone has the same person as you say lol. Ok so there is not another person working on reviews but its only up to jennifer now? Lol, ok as you say so but, i find that 1 person that handles calles, and reviews and etc… is the only person there is as you say there is 1 person. So in that case psp in Harrisburg is Jennifer alone by her self doing everything and running the place. Really come on Robin. Im really sorry but its really full of crap k. Think about it. Im not trying to make you out to be a fool. Im only saying is that i do know a person personally who works with Harrisburg psp main office. That is my source of information and I dont want to be lead off on the wrong track here.
Received the ACT 10 paperwork today.
Has anyone else other than @ Brian went down to register? If you did, did you have a copy of the ACT 10 law with you. Because in the letter from PSP, must comply with any requirements under ACT 10.
No where in Act 10 does it say register you internet identifiers, I believe we all need to make sure we bring the ACT 10 law with us to show the PSP that it is not required by us to provide anything but our HOME, SCHOOL, CAR, and JOB.
Any one with some advice? Anyone go register?
@robin
I had to re read your post on your attorney what you had to go threw. Ok now i get most part of it. The only thing i don’t understand is how 1 front desk person be doing all reviews. It just didnt make since. No pun done.
Ok so I was taking off the registry and still haven’t gotten letter yet. Will I get letter stating I still have to register under act 10 by may 22nd or will I get the letter stating I no longer have to register any more. Hmm it’s tough to figure out. I would assume that since I was removed that I would receive letter stating I no longer have to register but after reading some of these posts that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Some seem to be posting their theories, assumptions and opinions as absolute fact. We don’t need misinformation spreading.
One thing I’m thinking is the people removed before their reviews have been finished may have been under the early version of ML 1 and 2 before people other than SVPs were on the internet this explains how they are justifying keeping SVPs with 10yr or no reg offenses on internet and took others off. 2004 or 5 is when they started putting people on the internet. Anyone been removed that committed their crime after 2004?
I was sentanced in 1999. In 2003 completed probation. I had only no teir and 10 year deal. I see that im getting a letter today in the informed delivery USPS on their web site. As the picture a see threw parts i seen may 22 2018 threw the image of my mail i will be receiving. I guess everyone gets it in mail. Until the 90 day is up. Then what then sue and etc. But, by then they might say ok hit the big red button again like how all of a sudden mass changes on the pa megan’s law web total count. They seem to like that all of a sudden red button thing. @Robin i do apoligize for my words of being not a freindly mannor. Its just what i experienced when i called them multiple times. They just acted as some clueless reps. Making me think that they dont deal with reviews. So i went and spoken with a friend of mine who deals with the headquarters in Harrisburg. That officer a friend of mine who told me that yes when we call most likely you will get someone at the front desk. Depends on the day who you get. They had to get a rep front desk person to avoid the slow down. The front desk person for a while had to only say we are currently reviewing 1700 people and you will get a letter and get your name and only to look at what we seen on tge psp web. Reason why it was so generic cause the front desk has ni clue much on each person and did not want to provide false info. She could only confermed that by looking on what we see and what might look like if we come off the registery based on what we see and her knowledge of half fast Act 10 knowledge. Its just frusterating for all of us cause their not telling exactly what is going on and we all get different angles of things. So we come here to explain what we were told and most of it is not consistant at all. So yes i apologize that i did not see that cause i was only being one sided. My bad!
@ Robin
Ok yeah, i see your frustrations and yes I shall use in paragraphs. I also write as if the same as you. It is really frustrating on everyone. Its due to the uknown. A common fear of the mind.
I had just called PSP and got a Jennifer. This time she had stated that depends on what day and time is calls come in. You are right. Jennifer is the reviewer for the end of the alphabet. She stated that they use both reviewers and front desk rep. Depends on the day.
She had told me that my file has not been reviewd yet. Everyone gets the letters saying register to the new regestry until they review the files.
Its the sole purpose to be compliant till we get off the registry under the reviews been done. Then they will hit the big red button like before when all of a sudden the total count droped over night.
There is not known right now to figure which directions they go by. Everyone is trying to figure that one out. Well i do hope that you get to figure out whats going on with your case. Cause it is hard to know exactly what PSP is gonna do. But, i do know that they total up the years that you been on the registery for every state you lived in.
I would love to see your outcome. Actually everyone’s outcome. Its gonna be intresting to see that come. I think after all things are done im gonna stick around here and see how everyone is doing.
Finally the letter comes. mines says Friday march 16, took half a month huh? took their good old time. well two can play that. says right there no later than may 22. well I think I will wait to may 21.
@ Towny two Times
Mine including with the rest of out of staters and the red big button. They have not reviewed yet. It takes time due to other states have to pull up records and send them off to PSP. It is completely understandable.
Attorney cant due much until the 90 day is up. PSP asked for this 90 day deal. Why do you think attorney is not doing much except for just bugging PSP to hurry it up. The attorneys have plans if the 90 day is up and still get screwed over by PSP. Attorney looks at possible ways to go heads on PSP after the 90 day is up.
So until then its a waiting game. How can someone get off the registry if they have not reviewed the rest of the files? What can an attorney do at this time? Can they magic wand the process of getting files done faster when they are on their way? No cause it is hard to track the order of it. Cost to much money and all attorney can do is see where things are.
PSP is still in grace period until the 90 day is up. That is expected from the begining. The red big magical button will again hit when your file has been completed. Think of like ordering something from china on ebay. They give you prox date. Cant hurry shipment from their. All you can do is be patients. Your time will come before the 90 day up if you fall under the 10 year past due.
Its not my fault for any actions others take on here. I never made anyone follow anything. People here and all over the world follows their own paths. I cannot make people follow me or take my advice.
Im not no attorney. Im only going by what makes since and guess what makes since to me and how i see it. That is why i went under guessit.
So, dont blame me for anything. I never had blamed anyone. The only thing that i did was agree and not agree on things cause it makes since or it does not make since on things to me. So if that makes you feel better to blame me than go ahead. Its your words and all at the end we all shall see how things truely are with PSP.
If people had follwed your advice they would be stuck in a limbo as well. Cause you not for sure 100 percent on the out come and you do not know th e complete full history on records that might be discovered that one or many had forgotten about. That is why noone is an atrorney here. This is only for posting on what other people sees things and what makes since to themin their own minds.
Lastly, what ever the paths anyone takes on psp than its up to them only. Noone should be taking things out as an legal factual information that is true and as acting like an attorney. So why am i to get blamed. Thanks to you! No pun done at any cost.
Let me say this, I’m not taking any sides here but I hired an attorney over a month ago, one of the first things I told him was I am out of state, you can save him a lot of time and work by getting all of your court transcripts on your own first and your original SORNA letter with some old reporting printouts pre SORNA, this will help, does it save money with my attorney? I don’t know but he hasn’t charged me anything sense the second meeting. The second thing I told his was can you send a letter to the psp to cease and desist, he laughed at me and said what good will that do? It’s the DA who decides who’s on and who’s off, the psp remove you based on war the DA tells them to do, so my last visit my attorney sent the DA. an order if you will, to release me from the registry because I, A was never required to register because it says right there on my plea agreement and B, I was wrongfully charged with the so called crime that wasn’t a crime, I had a birthday before I appeared in court so that made me older when I got to court, I guess the judge didn’t notice that or care about that, anyway enough rambling, point is that the psp only removed you anger the DA I believe in your county tells the psp to remove you. I should be hearing back from my attorney next week hopefully, the DA had to contact the state I was originally from and clarify everything…
@ Towny two Times
Ok let me decide whats best for me. I can tell you for me I had contacted all states that i had been in. They all said to me im not on their registery ever since i checked out of each State. They have sent all records to PSP which i did nothing to ask them. I said ok cool ty.
I had contacted and paid an attorney to just look at my records. He had stated that I need not to worry about anything due to me gonna be getting off the registry. All my info was backed up by an attorney. I had never discussed this on here or on NARSOL. Reason is this: noone on here can give me or anyone else correct information.
Everyone on here only going by whats best for them and how they want to play. I really do not care if anyone agrees or disagrees with me. Im not here to really be liked or hated or anything. Your life and my life is in diffrent ways.
Im not to feel small or to be felt as if im stupid. Im here to only give what I want to post on my behalf only and to get what others are dealing with. Im not here to make friends or here to make enemies or to take sides of anything.
I do know alot and know whats best for me. This site here is not to give advice much. Its to gain an understanding of what others are going threw.
You or anyone on here is an attorney. Some may have attorney but its only geared towards your own files only. So unless your my attorney or you are me im gonna have to ignore your postings and just do my own talking on herr weather you like it or not. Oh yes im not kidding by the way.
Everyone is diffrent and have diffrent things on their files and diffrent crimes commetted. So please back off cause we are not here to act like 2 year olds and you need to let others talk without judgment. Cause you do not know me or anyone on here personally and been in others shoes the whole time from day 1 of crime commetted and went to court for people and know exactly whats going on.
“… I said that there is nothing to stop a legislature from passing more unconstitutional laws in the future and claiming they are non-punitive in order to apply them retroactively …”
That’s why there are three branches of government. The legislature can pass laws the executive won’t sign and/or the judicial won’t see as Constitutional. It’s the government we have. And oh by the way, we don’t have a justice system. Its a legal system. What you are looking for is a system where the judicial gets to review laws before they go into effect, and that’ll take a Constitutional amendment. You’ll give yourself an ulcer hoping the system will be just.
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@ Michael
Response from other thread.
If you read some of the comments on this thread you can see how being from out of state has something to do with it.
1. PSP is reviewing the files…then sending them to the DA of the county where one lives.
2. The DA wants to see the court files from that other location, (May not be all DA’s). Why? I can’t answer that one as that should not matter, they can look up on the internet what specific crime it was and then convert it. That doesn’t take the court records. (Look at Brian’s comments, he’s in this situation, has a lawyer, and this is what he has been told. His lawyer is in communication with the DA)
3. I imagine PA wants to find out also if anyone has been bumped up on the original states tier level, like new law passed to require them to be on longer than 10years. If they are still required to be on in that state PA most likely will use that to keep people on, (just my assumption), but the way they are handling Brian it seems to be dead on.
Think of it this way PA does not want to take “anyone” off the registry, and will do whatever they can to keep people on. Just my opinion, maybe others share that opinion, maybe they don’t. But I think we all can say, “never trust a cop or the law”.
The key wording on this in ACT 10 and even before is, “if required to register in another state”. Yes they count the time on the registry in the other state/s.
That is true Robin as far as my attorney stated, I received a communication from him Saturday through the mail, the DA won’t accept the court transcript I obtained myself, my attorney has to file for it which he has already, so in the next few weeks he will receive my court papers from the state I moved to pa from, then he has to meet with the DA again, I may or may not have a meeting in between those times, he normally does want to meet with me before hand but it sound like he wants to skit that step and go straight to the DA’s office. The DA won’t talk to you though, they will only talk you your attorney.
I have a court order to be stripped of SVP tag since March 2, 2018. I have sent by certified mail, by person, clerk of courts has sent it, PSP still refuse to remove me from the SVP part of the website.
I called them today and asked why.
“We aren’t removing anyone, just shuffling things around. The new law went into effect Feb 26, and we have 90 days to comply with a court order AND act 10 let’s the PSP challenge anyone’s court order, so we can “remove” people, and then, on the 89th day of the order, challenge it which buys us at least another 9 months they will be on Megan’s Law.”
I told him they just can’t ignore a VALID court order to which he replied “We have been removing people from the website but that doesn’t mean they aren’t still under Megan’s Law because under act 10, we can challenge anyone’s removal, so a lot of these people will be going back on”.
What…?
My Docket: https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/CPReport.ashx?docketNumber=CP-21-CR-0000801-2010
PSP SVP site (Even though SVP tag is gone, I am still listed under active PSP SVP): https://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/OffenderDetails/PhysDesc/44474
“The new law went into effect Feb 26, and we have 90 days to comply with a court order AND act 10 let’s the PSP challenge anyone’s court order, so we can “remove” people, and then, on the 89th day of the order, challenge it which buys us at least another 9 months they will be on Megan’s Law.”
Can anyone find anything in Act 10 that would back up PSP stating this??
David since you seem to be able to pro se. You may want to file habeas on them, and seek damages.
Except that is not what really happened. I was told to participate in a sex offender treatment program. The man pulled my PSP record from when I first came into DOC. I provided him with several expungement orders for charges that were dismissed and expunged. This man told me I still had to admit the crime even though it had been expunged (which is against state law).
He removed me from group and stated that I had NEVER participated in any group whatsoever.
I took it to court because the law states “Participated in the program under subsection (a)”
I did, I was there 15 sessions, it is not in the DOC’s jurisdiction to decide how many sessions you must complete, only that you participated in the program.
Read the DISSENTING opinions.
If a runner enters a race 100 laps and only runs 15 laps, HAS THAT RUNNER PARTICIPATED in the race?
Of course he has. And I am in federal court over this at this very time, it was granted hearings in 3rd circuit. (even though it will never affect me again).
So instead of just sitting at home on my couch and keyboard warrioring people, I try to do things to change things. (Maybe you should try it too?)
“Dave you’re dilutional if you know so much about the law then you’d know act 10 went into effect on the 22nd not the 26th So you should already know what PSP told you was BS.”
I never said when the law went into effect, I was merely stating what PSP told me, but now that I have been emailed by a few people here and told me you are the same person that was BANNED at Narsol from posting, yea, I see why now.
Banned at Narsol for harassing people posting messages. That’s sad.
@Whants off
I hope they are still reviewing, I honestly don’t know what they are doing, I hear all sorts of things people are saying but I don’t know what’s going on, I believe they have 9 to 18 months to review everyone, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong which I may very well be.
Dave I have known that a writ of mandamus is the only way to force the PSP to remove someone they are refusing to remove such as yourself for a long time people have been ignoring that in hopes PSP will do the right thing. Also I have know OOS people would have to have a lawyer prove they finished their time for a long time but none cared to listen. Filling to force the Parole board to parole you takes a lot more exhaustion before you can file mandamus vs forcing the PSP to remove you. For the reg removal an attorney would first send a letter asking PSP to remove you then a partition to the trial court Then you can file a writ mandamus to the superior court just like Muniz and Reed. There seems to be a lot of people on here giving advice to people that know they are not due relief from having their time extended by SORNA. This doesn’t take away from the fact there will be many challenges going in favor of all SOs but You are confusing the people due immediate relief. The new law spells it out for everyone simply Telling people to register under this new law when it doesn’t apply to them is crazy. PSP sent these letters out in bulk in hopes people that they know the new law doesn’t apply to them will get scared and go reg anyway. Its time for everyone that knows they finished their time to man up and hold firm on not registering under this new bill I spoke with PSP when I was removed they told me my review will be finished before the 90days is up to reg under the new law. So I will be calling PSP 3wks before to get an update on my review, if they say not done yet then I am going to my co DA office and demanding a meeting to ask if he will be prosecuting me if I do not register when the 90 days is up if they do not finish my review. If he says yes then I will have to file with the court to show cause the new law applies to me. People with AIA, IDSI and other life reg schemes under ML 2 are in a whole other situation. Anyone that was not suppose to reg under ML2 rules or finished their 10yrs including toll time is crazy if they reg under this new law it does not apply to them. I do not know why we haven’t heard whats going on with Aaron Marcus’s Philly cases yet he should have some info for us on what to do if they try to make a person reg under this new law.
I just served in person suit against PSP for failure to remove at about 9am to 1800 Elmerton. No writ, none of that bullshit. Just a notice to defend.
3 Hours later, name has been removed from svp status part of website.
Recognize the power.
Awsome Dave…. here’s my thing I was removed from website weeks ago and still have not to this day received any letter stating to register under new law or a letter stating I’m done and don’t have to register any more. Hmmm maybe it got lost in mail, mailed to a diffrent address or just swept under rug.
Dave
Thank you, I received the letter telling me I have to register so I will definitely be going in, my attorney thought I was not supposed to but he wasn’t up on the Act 10 law but now he is , I know what Tony is up to, Tony doesn’t live in PA as we all know. Thanks for lookin our though man. It don’t think anyone who hasn’t gotten anything telling them they don’t have to reg should skip it, they can be very costly.
@ Dave, As I had taking my friend the womam that is a regester offender had 2 misdemeanors of failure to register. No time served in jail. No jail time. I took her in to be compliant back in 2008 and they took her in to booking to explain her situation and they just said, next time make sure your up to date on things and no more excuses and gave her a fair warning on both of those failure to register. So they let her go after half hour of being there. So it did not add more time added to her registery requirements. So not all failure to register is a complete max out the registery time or even step foot in a jail. All she has now is 2 extra things on her record thats all. But, can be exponged if she chooses it to do so. But, just becsuse the failure to register does NOT mean jail or max out time. It just depends on cases and situations. These web sites like this one people really do not know whats going on with psp and people gerting off the registery much except parts here and there that partains to their own cases. I had read alot about what everyone had said from thw beginings. Most people here had no clue at the time but, swore up and down its the case of how its gonna be. Nothing really is actual facts but only parts here and there. So really you have tp take everything like a grain og salt. Never believe anyone but what the psp papers are sent out already. And any feuture actions by the PSP. Some say they have attorney. Ok great! But its only geared towards your own case/s. Not everyone is on the same boat. Act 10 you have to look at it as is only based. PSP is not done yet of reviews. If so then why would here and there still being shifted etc. On the psp website the total numbers etc… but, im not saying im right or wrong. Im just trying to look at it as is type of deal. If you got a letter already from psp with the famous day of the 22 of May. Then 8f your not off the registery by close that due date then just go in and comply. You will get off the registery when the time is up one way or the other. For whatever reason out of state offenders are still being reviewed and its taking longer than usual. That does not mean hurry hurry hurryto get an attorney. It just means that some may feel as if things will work out at the end. Some feel the need to push people into getting an attorney and if not then your screwd. Some people left this site due to being felt as if others had pushed to far and felt as if this all is a bunch of garbage and just decided to do their own thing. It could also just be that of many other reasons too. One true fact is that psp had changed the registry. People gotten off the registry. Out of state people are still in reviews. As far as trying to figure out that act 10 is not a perfect registery recipe for everyone. You have to look at it like this. Unless you see that act 10 has movement against it on the supreme court or any where on the legislatures web. Then go by that direction. Cause a lot of people love to play the jail house attorney when they cant see their own road of the true facts. Im not busting bubbles. Im only saying this that you have to look at thw facts now and wipe out the false crap. Then re think and put facts together. We all know that people on here is full of crap here and there at times. This is not a pooularity contest of any kind. This is not for wamna be leaders on here. There is none. No leadership and thus is not for the ones that are always on contributations. Contribute does not bring status. There is no status on these web blogs. Everyone has their own issues and their own thoughts. But telling people false stuff is not cared for. Instead of saying that this is this and that and push people with out any factual to show proof of things is not the way to do things. Actually its manuplation and brain washing leading people to think false crap. If you put it like this is my opinion or this is what i think or this might be the case etc… like that is much better to decide on things that are in good standing in a healthy ways. These are just my own thiughts and opinions. Do not take what i say to harshness. Just my own thoughts only. Thanks everyone for being on here
https://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/Search/CountySearchResults?selectedCounty=SOMERSET&chkCountyIncarcerated=true&chkCountyIncarcerated=false
See how many incarcerated people there are for Failure to Register in state prison? That’s just SCI-Somerset and SCI-Laurel Highlands
Once again Jimmy Two Times, I have proven you wrong for about the uh what 20th time so far in 3 days time?
Don’t leave though, I can feel you squirming in your seat everytime you read one of my posts calling you out.
What I don’t understand is after having been banned at NARSOL and other sex offender forums, why they continue to let you stay here…