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For some reason, this pattern seems familiar: Gov’t creates list, promises to keep it close to vest, then somehow it spreads… For the life of me, I can’t recall where else this has come up.
http://www.witf.org/news/2019/02/feds-admits-it-shares-terrorist-watchlist-with-1400-private-groups.php
So I had my Price Club renewal today at the Van Nuys store. The employees were quite nice and and had decent conversation with all 3 as nobody else was there and nobody in line. First time ever I have seen that. I did bring up that I was going to Europe this summer and asked if I needed to bring in my itinerary due to Iml they said “No you don’t need to do anything”. As I was walking out I said if you don’t mind, I’m going to bring in my internary just so you have it on record. Again they said “you don’t have to do that you can call us and we’ll enter it in the computer”. And that’s just what I’m going to do. No more no less. He also brought up 2021 and petitioning to get off and said he hoped it works for me. Shook his hand and left.
Easiest renewal in 21 years with no stress.
I have a question concerning termination of registration. I am in Ca. , which to my understanding is a non SORNA compliant state.
SORNA lists my offense as a tier 1 offense, which dictates a 10 registration period, figuring in a 5 yr waiver for “good behavior”.
My questions are:
1. Which jurisdiction takes priority as applied to the IML and passports.
2. If I re establish residence in a SORNA jurisdiction, do I then get to terminate my registration?
3. Are ACSOL lawyers going to sight Federal guidelines in arguing the Ca. Tier 1 for misdomeanor CP offense?
I ask here because I unfortunately can not attend the Sat. Mtg in Berkeley.
Thx
Still mystified about how to comply with the 21 day requirement. At my annual renewal today at the Chicago Police Department main headquarters at 35th and Michigan, I told the officer that I might be traveling out of the country and had heard there was a new 21 day advance notification requirement, and the officer said they had not been told about it and as far as they were concerned, the foreign travel requirement for Illinois registrants is the same as in this country — come in three days before leaving to register a change of address and then come back in within three days of returning and change back to my home address. I prodded saying I had heard it was a federal law with stiff penalties, and my officer called across to a more “senior” looking officer and asked him, and he replied it’s the same three day notice, just bring in your passport and itinerary. He said they had processed many foreign travelers this way and never had any problems.
My officer suggested that if I wanted to pursue it I could call the Illinois State Police. They all seemed pleasant but insisted they were right.
Now, I don’t think I want to report this to the state police (let sleeping dogs lie). But I don’t want to get arrested at the airport for breaking a federal law. Illinois is not SORNA complaint, but it’s my understanding from reading comments here that the IML is not dependent on that. Chicago registration is very big — there were 40-50 people waiting when I arrived and it took 3 hours or so for me to get through it. I can’t believe that if the 21 day notice applied to me the officers would not know about it.
From what I have read, It is clear that there is as many views and “understandings” of the law as there is registrants. Lawyers don’t have clear answers. Judges don’t have clear answers. Advocates don’t have clear answers. Law enforcement doesn’t have
clear answers.
So Federal law doesn’t supersede state law, wait yes it does! IML doesn’t apply to post registry, wait yes it does.
I guess I will just hold my breath until my opportunity to leave the country and put this mess behind me.
I was just listening to news and noticed that the actor that filed a false police report was out on $100,000 bail, faced up to 3 yrs in jail, plus other fines.
In comparison, My case had R.O.R. (I spent a total of 3 hrs in custody) , probation, and $1800 in fines. Obviously my offense in the eyes of the law was considered a much less serious offense. Comparing the two judgements , how then can any sane person not argue that the addition of the registry isn’t designed as punishment !
Whatever happened to that guy that got relief by moving out of the country and moving back? Remember he was supposed to be writing a book or some crap on how he did it.
as I was surfing the net came along a interesting piece,i might be grasping for straws,but I looked up certain countries s/o registration laws,came across Germanys laws,also(it said the states) came upon a listing 11th listing down from there, it stated when moving,tell the registar (I guess public safety) you demand your name off the list,and tell them where you move you want it private…you would have to see the article to know more… I know it sounds crazy, but if anyone can make sense of this (I’m not saying you shouldn’t register)
NOTICE:
Next week, a “sex offender” case will come for oral arguments before the Supreme Court. The case is US. v Haymond and deals with the standard of proof required before imposing a sanction.
A lawyer representing the coast guard Lt. made an interesting comment. He said, “ We in America don’t arrest and convict someone for surfing the internet”. Really? We don’t?
Wanted to share this for those who have not seen all the arguments brought against SORNA and its breach of authority in policing individuals intrastate activities that have no baring on commerce.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/17/17-6086/48700/20180530154721426_17-6086%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf
Saw a local news report today regarding foreigners traveling for intercourse with minors. Apparently since the IML thing where people have been getting barred from all the surrounding countries they have been coming here.
So far there have been no talks of a registry as they found it would be inhumane and cause more harm than good, but they did come up with a nifty app to help take down human trafficking rings. So far it has had over 300 reports and led to taking down quite a few of the syndicates that were making cp and selling kids.
I would share the story, but I would rather keep my current living area less hectic as this is becoming a very hot issue here with new reports every day.
Man another one bites the dust with the elimination of the statute of limitations BS. R Kelly, some rapper or some crap. Hey 50 years ago Joe blow put his arm around me. SEXUAL ASSAULT, SEXUAL ASSAULT…… Remember someone talking about Barney Fife anyone? Citizens arrest, citizens arrest…. Damn they can arrest and convict half my junior high school. At least half… And you are talking at least 70-80% of my high school. You know who these people are that are doing all this crap? They are that other 20-30% that were not getting laid in high school or were the ones getting picked on in school. Shit all the rock stars from back in the day, and the Beatles and the who, Elvis, man there is no end, especially when all you have to do is be a woman and yell SEXUAL ASSAULT, SEXUAL ASSAULT…. Give me money or know my name. I am cool and rich now….
@TS: (new thread started)
“And if you read in the 2011 SORNA Supplement Guidelines I have posted previously and can be found on the SMART website and are in effect today as is (nothing superseded it), it specifically calls out registrants, which are sex offenders who have registered per SORNA, that have to give notice for international travel. They do mix in sex offenders synonymously also to add confusion. If registrants weren’t important, they would’ve stayed with sex offenders to begin with and carried it throughout.”
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I wonder if there’s any way to get an interpretation from DoJ on this. Some State Attorneys General issue interpretations of State laws which, though non-binding, if followed prevent one from being subjected to legal action. Were it to have any effect on my plight, I’d dig into it myself. It doesn’t, so I won’t.
Once you are removed from registry, how are your original rights as a citizen effected. (Ca. Misdomeanor)
Do you regain right to own firearms? My father wants to leave me his collection.
Can you sponsor someone?
I would like to enroll my niece and nephew in U.S. universities.
Thx
This is for all, but @AJ, who’d have thunk their vote wouldn’t have counted?
Supreme Court rules judges might serve for life, but not eternity
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-judges-might-serve-life-not-eternity-n975676
Just want to let everyone know this and to also help make sure search engines pick it up that Mr. Ron Book Florida Lobbyist Farther to Florida Senator Lauren Book has been ARRESTED for DUI
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-arrested-in-dui/#comment-32991
From RM on FAC: “The case information is now available from the Broward County Clerk of Courts website (www.browardclerk.org).
The case number is 19-002107MM10A.
The charging document is not yet available. This is public information (just like the sex offender registry) and anyone who wishes to access it may do so, for free. The information will be updated periodically by the Clerk of the Court (just as FDLE updates information on the sex offender registry), for those who wish to follow the progress of the case.”
I just saw a report that the Patriots owner may have to join us, but for human trafficking 😅
https://www.sanbernardinosheriffseba.com/news/seba-news/update-on-legal-challenge-to-sb-1421
I read a passage from the attached link about San Bernardino County Sheriffs Employee Association challenging the bill, stating the retroactive release of police recrods under the new law would cause irreparable harm to the statutory and constitutional rights of its members. SMH!
“Initially, SEBA asked the California Supreme Court to decide on the issue but the high court chose not to address it. SEBA then filed the challenge on the local level. On January 9th, the San Bernardino Superior Court issued a temporary order to block the retroactive release of any police personnel records under the new law until March 11. On March 11th, the Superior Court will hear arguments on the issues and issue a ruling thereafter. “Our goal is to protect our members’ privacy rights in incidents that occurred before this law went into effect,” said SEBA President Grant Ward. “We have a strong legal position that the bill shall not be applied retroactively. We are seeking court confirmation so this law can be applied consistently for peace officers throughout California.”
The release of those records related to incidents that occurred before the bill’s effective date would cause irreparable harm to the statutory and constitutional rights of SEBA members, as peace officers’ personnel records received legal protection prior to Senate Bill 1421.
“Breckenridge cracking down on convicted sex offenders living in their city”
“A new city ordinance in Breckenridge will crack down on where convicted sex offenders moving into the city can live.” Okay, so nothing terribly new with that, it’s just another residential restriction scheme, seemingly, but then there’s this curious quote: “Breckenridge City Manager Andy McCuistion said that Stephens County District Attorney Dee Hudson Peavy requested the ordinance to make it easier to prosecute cases involving criminal sexual offenses.”
I take that to mean that they’re trying to create a legal obstacle course that registrants will then trip over so that they can be put back into prison. Is there any other way to interpret that?
https://ktxs.com/news/big-country/breckenridge-cracking-down-on-convicted-sex-offenders-living-in-their-city
“Argument analysis: Court poised to rule for challenger in dispute over constitutionality of sex-offender law”
One bit of encouraging news.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2019/02/argument-analysis-court-poised-to-rule-for-challenger-in-dispute-over-constitutionality-of-sex-offender-law/
I’m tired of humans….. can I get a ride somewhere off this planet? I’m serious, I need a new place to live.
How the hell is this allowed? I thought employers can’t use the information from the registry? It has been expunged so they can’t say it was a criminal background check. They literally used the registry. Come on attorneys do something about companies using the registry through background checks.
Confidential to be opened by addressee only
2019-03-01
Dear xxxx
We regret to inform you that DoorDash, Inc. (the “Company”) is unable to engage your services.
This decision was based in whole or in part on information contained in a report, including the following specific items contained in the report from Checkr, Inc., One Montgomery Street, Suite 2000, San Francisco, CA 94104 | 844.824.3257 | https://checkr.com/applicant
REGISTRATION IN CA SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY
“Oregon parole board requests bill to eliminate sex offender reclassification deadline” This story is about the quagmire Oregon has been mired in as a result of switching to a tier-based system more than five years ago. It would seem that the classification process is a lot more work than they had imagined.
As a caveat to anyone thinking of moving to Oregon where a very low number of registrants appear on the public website, realize that they are still in the process of re-classification which may result (eventually) in many more people “going public.”
“In testimony before Oregon’s House Judiciary Committee, the parole board said so far its seven assessment specialists have only reclassified 4,585 of the state’s nearly 31,000 registered sex offenders into a level.”
Oregon may still be a better place to be on the registry (we’d have lots of company since it is said to have the highest percentage of registrants in the country) after all of their re-classification takes place, but you should realize that they are still in the middle of revamping registration with a goal of putting many more on the public site.
https://katu.com/news/investigators/oregon-parole-board-requests-bill-to-eliminate-sex-offender-reclassification-deadline
Excellent article on Florida’s Registry!! Especially interesting is how Florida’s Law Enforcement Agency is able to get away with identifying all out of state registrants as “compliant”. Thus artificially boosting their own “effectiveness” and then using its fake numbers to get additional federal money!! This certainly appears to be fraud! Also, as usual, Florida is a federal tax money “taker” State while California is a federal tax money “supplier” State!