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Seen any spray trucks running through the streets in the evening? They just announced curfews in several towns around here, so make sure not to be out for the gassing! Unless it’s a mass inoculation in which case yay the government is trying help…yeah.
Jefferson County, AL Sheriffs Dept.
Has a new App. For Citizens …
Tracking, And more powerful information as well as communications for Ex Sex offenders and Alerts etc. etc
Where are “OUR” Apps and Protections against Vigilantes and False Claims etc ???
I recently was denied for a firearm purchase in California.
I was convicted of 288a(b)(1) in 2008 as a felony, was sent to country jail for 1 year (8 months) and probation. I completed a counseling program for RSOs and with the help of a lawyer was able to reduce my felony to a misdemeanor, and even terminate my probation several months early.
I assumed the reduction would allow me to purchase a small, bolt action rifle for target shooting, and I went through the process, but my purchase was denied on the basis of the felony conviction.
I did speak with a fresh attorney or paralegal (kid basically) from one of those law firms that spam and mill folks through and he was of the belief that RSOs cannot own firearms under federal law. However, I am skeptical this is the case.
Regardless, I was denied in California. I have the option to get a livescan done and obtain a copy of my criminal record, thereafter I understand I can dispute a possible inaccuracy?
I am not sure why I was denied. It could be I misunderstand the law. It could be the initial conviction itself is what matters. Maybe 288a(b)(1) is one of those that can never own a firearm? I don’t think so, but I know there are SOME charges that carry a lifetime ban, no matter what. I don’t see how 288a(b)(1) would be one of those however. Or it could be there is an error in updating my record, that the county database says one thing but the state/federal another.
I’m not sure and would appreciate any insight, especially from someone who went through a similar process.
I wish there was a post on this site dedicated to this topic.
Is it wrong to smile as you seen all the protest against police. Police getting beat down, broken glass everywhere, the fires…I am loving it and I know I shouldn’t. Been harassed by police on several occasions in my travels just because of the registry. Feel like I’m getting some kind of payback right now.
Hi everyone, is Ruben again!
Question:
Can I still get my wife her citizenship regardless of my charge? Is it that the system becomes bias due to the offense? My wife and I are high school sweethearts going on 14 yrs together and going on 7 yrs married. She has stuck with me through thick & thin, even after I caught this case. There is substantial amount of evidence to proof that my wife and I are credible along with us having two beautiful children.
Any solid advice on how to go about it and process?
Thanks a million!
Has anyone had the police include vehicles on your annual registration that you do not own or drive, but demand they to include them on your registration forms because that vehicle is registered (via dmv) to that address?
Ie I have my own car, like with my mom and we rent out part of our house. They included my moms truck in my registration this year even though I do not own or drive it ever because the truck is registered to our address. At least that is what was told to me…
My worry is that they may start wanting to register our tenets cars too, and/or my mother is going to get “hasselled” because of her car being included on my registration.
It’s terribly odd how things are changing right now. I’ve seen friends on social media saying first hand how cops are treating them as protestors. They finally getting it. They’re getting the humiliation and degradation that cops do to those in custody or suspected of crimes. It’s heartening, but I keep help but feel sorry for them.
Also, I may to register in the coming month. Trying to help my brother out and we may move to a bigger place in our complex.There’s a curfew here and all registration is during curfew. Not to mention my county is now a hotspot for coronavirus. This is extremely disheartening to me, the fact that I still need to register moving less than 100 yards during a pandemic and riots and a curfew.
This is some absurdity.
@Denied, can’t seem to find your post to reply to. I don’t know much about firearm rights in California specifically but as it pertains to federal law if “Any conviction which has been expunged, or set aside or for which a person has been pardoned or had civil rights restored shall not be considered a conviction.” (except if the crime is one of domestic violence)
So generally as far as the federal government requirements are concerned, if you have had all of your civil rights restored following a conviction, you are allowed to own firearms. Its all about whether the state considers you to have had your civil rights restored if it is a state conviction.
When it comes to states, I do know some states have stricter rules than others whereby even if your civil rights are restored your gun rights are not. If the state of conviction has not restored your rights in these cases your civil rights are actually not considered fully restored for the purposes of the federal firearm laws.
Although the federal mechanism for restoration of firearm rights exists, it isn’t funded so you can not restore firearm rights using that mechanism. However, if a state restores these rights it is recognized as restored federally.
I am not sure about whether or not a past conviction would affect the firearm rights of someone allowed to own a gun in one state if they moved to a state and the state had some sort of law barring such firearm ownership based solely on a conviction in a way similar to what they do with people off a registry in one state who move to another that has a different registry law. Perhaps someone else knows more about this piece of it.
In any case, it does appear that a misdemeanor conviction (except for domestic violence) in California (once it is actually a misdemeanor) would not affect your rights to gun ownership there. If you are being denied the right to purchase a gun in this case, you should appeal this decision.
SORA budgets must be taking a huge hit. Counties (and states) near me are now, and will be billions of dollars in the red for many, many years. How will they ever pay Ahearn?
Hi! I’m in NC. When I get visited by an officer every 3 months to verify my address they make me verify other things, like employment and what not. Is this legal? Can I tell them I’m not obliged to disclose that? The only law I can find in Nc is if you work at higher education. Which I don’t. Also they made me register my vehicle. But I can’t find the vehicle law anywhere in the statues. I may just be missing. Just wanted to check.
Are we allowed in daycares in CA? To drop off and pick up etc?
I must disagree with some of the folks who find pleasure in the plight of cops during these times. To generalize them is the same as whats being done to us. Personally, I’ve dealt with a far greater group of good cops over bad.
Huge crowds gather at the Hall of Justice demanding Jackie Lacey to resign as DA. Looks like the November election will not go favorable for her after all. The chess pieces of tyranny starts to fall…
https://laist.com/latest/post/20200603/george-floyd-protests-la-county-city-curfews-june-3
Look at this violence is all over America today. From this Convid-19 to riots, face masks to hate crimes. A lot of mass histria going on in this country of unrest proportations at this time. And to think we can all blame it on a sex offender or where is justice today with leaders of America. Even police are getting their just deserts it seems. Sure blessed are the peacemakers but who is reaping and who is sowing .
Mankind is out of balance today since this death of this black man in minnesoda. While it was wrong it seems to have created unrest in many ways. Talk about what has God wrought or how about what has man wrought. Talk about venjence and this racial injustice over this black man. While it was wrong and upsetting to even air on TV that tells others about how electronic media can get out of hand.
Yes people today want their 5 minutes of fame just like the Lennon murder or the Kenedy murder. Today it seems we are bowing down to wearing a mask or others telling us its safe to go out of the house. God is still in control and he is our protector in the good times and the bad. Even this sex registry ordeal is a mixed up piece of judicial garbage. People seem to want to get over on the other for some notriety of some sort. Things are a bit out of control and when I came back on here in Feb seems like everybody was this virus was some lets give them a dose of what we go thru but sometimes its better to now say anything as words can come back to haunt at times.
All the sex offender is looking for is justice and when judges force the hand of another than one has to step up and Janice will come thru on much of this effort that we all face. I’m getting ready to write a letter to the Governor myself as all things are good if done in a humble and right way . Yes we are talking principals and morals. At times we all need to bride thy tongue as their is too much confusion going on today. Were is the love thy neighbor today. One wonders who is serving Satan in all this sexual enticement.
While it seems someone is taking someone for a ride. So see to it no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive phlosophy. Yes many of these internet sex sting operations are ethical dilemmas to cause one to stumble. Now using the sword of Justice and being a Christian police officer seems to be a bit much today. Look at things today with this unrest.
Sure their are many dilemmas but this internet ordeal is a bit much. One can understand someone breaking into a house but who is breaking into the mind of another with this ruse. Anyone on here should type in Civil Government, Laws and Politics and I’m sure each of you will be amazed at the sham that government is pulling in all this internet scheme.
I keep seeing over and over and over again where people are legitimizing the $EX Offender Registry Hit List and intended harassment. People cannot stop saying things like, “I’m a sex offender.” It’s unfortunate.
I guess people who say that, are sex offenders and they do belong listed on public Registries. We can keep them listed for life. But those people are a minority. The other 95% of the people who are listed on the Registries are not sex offenders. They are just People Forced to Register (PFR). By immoral, criminal, out-of-control big government.
We need to figure out how to separate people who are sex offenders and should be listed on the Registries from those who are merely PFRs. They are thwarting the war against Registries.
I finally moved from the hell hole of an apartment complex I lived in for 5 yrs. My new place is still a dump compared to my pre conviction living arrangement, but far better emotionally for me.
I now have a different dilemma. I have been diligently trying to report my change of address, with very little assistance from SJPD. The 290 registration office has minimal hrs due to furloughs surrounding covid – 19. I spoke to a info rep and was given a # that isn’t even hooked up yet. I called records and was referred back to hat same #. When I told the Rep that the # didn’t work, I was told that the D.A. and the courts are aware of issues surrounding us and are giving “space” during the in space orders.
Since I don’t expect to EVER be in the sights of law enforcement again, I shouldn’t be too concerned and figure I should just relax and keep trying.
I thought maybe going down to a local satellite PD office and giving my info to them, but they probably don’t give a s***, so why bother. My therapist knows, but that means nothing. Anyone like to give input?
@AJ I agree that it is nice to tell them you want your attourney, but my experience from my pre arrest interrogation is that it ultimately pointless. I demanded my attourney 20+ times in the two hours they kept me in there. Each time they asked for the number, each time I told them the public defender(not rich enough for a private attourney & kept in telecom black out) and each time they told me “one will be provided at court.” They continued to hold me and question me even though I pled the 5th & refused to speak.
Donated.
Let’s keep fighting the good fight.
Oh nothing at all to see here folks! Not concerning at all…
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/05/protests-washington-dc-federal-agents-law-enforcement-302551
I was caught in a underage sex sting and im off probation in November. Its a misdemeanor so I can get it expunged. They gave me 10 years on the registry and I was wondering if there would be any way to get them to stop the registration requirement. I was also wondering how do I find out if the police did a legal sting. I think they broke both federal and state laws during the sting. Who can I get to review my case? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Because of all that has happened recently, there are cities that are defunding their Police depts. to reorganize a public safety dept. and cutting back the funds drastically in other cities. I bet a lot of us could give them an idea where to save a bunch of wasted man hours and budget. This tragic event could be a blessing for many areas that just don’t have resources to maintain a worthless 290 unit. What better way to save money than to release non dangerous persons from supervision. DUH!
Guys it seems like this is a gunfight at the ok coral. I just wonder who is leading the charge. Are we all MEN BEHAVIHG BADLY or is it police? Inducing these ordeals for some vain attempt of protecting and protecting who? Trafficing is one thing but inducing to seduce is another is a whole different ball game. Are police corupting with this vain ordeal that bears truth in itself in these immoral issues. Conpare this to the unrest today. Is all that for public safety. I’m sure these people wouldn’t protest or stand up for naught.
While all lives matter this George Floyd issue has set off a melting pot of how police use their lack of compassion in this type of encounter, and than cover up in many ways. Its almost like vigilante justice or who is boxing who in for the kill.
Even the sex offenders have rights or is sex the common demonator to set off this folly of vain injustice to entrapt. And yes they do entrapt and have no more guilty conscious than the person that put his knee on that back person. One would suppose justice has to be served at no matter what cost. Whether ficticous or real.So who has blood on their hands or who is presenting these stumbling blocks.
The most common temptation is sex as we are all carnal by nature. Sure we all are weak in spirit and we can be leasd astray in many ways. Sure I’m in their for Janice as CA is not an easy place for the sex registry. One even wonders why things are different from one state to the next.
We are all in this registry together. While some might have had to go to jail and some on probation, it doesn’t seem fair as its like we are puppet on a string and those in law enforcement are stringing us along in this game. Nothing wrong with protecting and serving but there is a proper way or where is love thy neighbor today. I wonder if it comes from the heart or from the heartless.
You can call yourself a PFR”person forced to register” or a RC” registered citizen ” it don’t matter if you’ve been placed on the Megan’s Law website you’re a sex offender .
This is why i personally believe a tier system is needed in California.
Anyone who tries to minimize or normalize there crimes is highly dangerous.
As far as law enforcement goes never speak to LE about anything without a lawyer even when you go in for your annual registration answer every question they ask with a yes or no and never volunteer information that they don’t have or don’t need.
I realize allot of people are kinda new to this never ending nightmare/hell on earth/sex offender registry and they feel like life is over and sometimes suicidal it’s sad and I feel your pain but it’s never going to get better if anything it’s going to get worse this is the new normal your old life is dead and gone.
So you really have no choice but to stand Janice Bellucci and ACSOL and fight back and donate as much as you can she’s your only hope in this situation.
the best advice I can give anybody is try and save as much money as you can and eventually try and buy a home it helps when you own your own property i know its hard for sexofenders to get jobs so if you do get a good one save your money so you not only have something to show for it you also dont have to worry about ever being charged for FTR …
Good luck
Obviously, I see life through Registry-tinted glasses. But I could not help thinking of us Registrants when I read this article:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/05/pride-month-lgbtq-rights-black-civil-rights/3127774001/
Is now our time to come out and stand with those opposing oppression?? How many in the black and LGBT communities suffer as the result of Registries?? Many, many, disproportionately many, I say. Perhaps now is our time to self-identify as we join others fighting for justice!!
I wrote to Senator Booker regarding his proposal for a national police misconduct registry. I thought it was a perfect opportunity to point out how a seemingly well intentioned law can destroy all who come in contact with it.
How a registry will separate loved ones, cause harm and potential death to innocent people. And how it does nothing to solve the underlying problem, but only creates more hate and animosity towards a group.
I mentioned that the least will be tossed in with the worst, that a list promotes vigilantism, and that posting a person’s information actually promotes and creates crime. I hope he reads my letter. I hope I can make a difference. My suffering should not be the suffering felt by others.