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I reached out to LEO today to get my Tier and was surprised and not in a GOOD way. My crime was 664/288(a) and in December 2019 I received a COR from LA County Superior Court . Today I was told TIER 2. That means since I was released in 2003 I have two more years to apply for removal from the Registry. If anyone knows how to appeal the Tier listing? And or can I apply for removal in July based on my COR?
Thanks
@D.H Jake
I too was sentence with a 288 c 1 Jail and Probation that was even terminated early with a Expungement 1203.4 and granted a 17b misdemeanor.. I live in L. A. county. I recieved the letter that I am a tier 3 after being contacted back from my registration officer confirming the data base also puts me in that tier. Did you receive your tier yet?
I contacted my LEO today and learned my TIER rating and am not happy. My crime is 664.288(a) and in December 2019 got a COR from LA Superior Court. My sentence ended in 2003 which now means I have another two years before being able to get off the Registry. I am place on TIER 2 and was expecting TIER 1 Does anyone, or Janice if you read this, know if there is any other option considering the COR?
Thanks
I Haven’t received any information on tier assessment Long Beach Police Department honestly could care less.
Last time I was in there they were harassing a homeless Transit sex offender he had five bags of clothes and stuff in his hand and on his back .
It was weird because there was five plain clothes detectives standing around him very aggressively as the guy was leaving one of the plain clothes detective came out and said did that mother phucker just leave and the 290 registration officer I was talking to about my assessment letter said yeah he’s right there one of the plain clothes detectives ran out and drop the guy from the back hitting him so hard he landed face-first on the concrete the detective cuffed him and took him to the booking area with blood running down his face it was obvious that the guy had mental issues.
I was thinking what could this guy have done against the law if he was there trying to comply with the law.
Before she slammed the door in my face I can hear them in there laughing about it
Good luck
Has anyone who’s been convicted one of the following as either a misdemeanor from the start or later reduced to a misdemeanor via 17b, have been able to get your official tier assignment?
(R) The person was convicted of a felony violation of Section 311.1 or 311.11 or of violating subdivision (b), (c), or (d) of Section 311.2, Section 311.3, 311.4, or 311.10.
So far, it doesn’t seem like anyone that’s posted here has been able to confirm their tier placement in regard to this. Anyone that does have one of these, has said they’ve been placed into TBD section.
The reason I’m asking is that this is the only line for tier 3 designations that are specifically mentioned as a FELONY. Everything else only lists the code and doesn’t specify misdemeanor or felony. And it’s people with these unspecified codes who have had their 17b reduction that are still being told they’re tier 3.
Finding an answer my question will help shed some light on whether or not DOJ is entirely ignoring people who’ve had misdemeanors either at original conviction or later via reduction, or just everything that isn’t specifically named a felony per the bill, and DOJ is being very literal in that if you have this code regardless of the status of the conviction, you’re tier 3.
Once this is concrete answered, I think ACSOL can form a better plan on what to attack.
1. I don’t think the 17b will fly. I believe the DOJ must respect the 17b and this will change
2. Most tier 3’s are still able to petition the court after 20 years
3. You (tier 2/3) can still petition the DOJ to not be placed on the Megan’s law website
4. I believe my COR will be granted in February and I’ll be done!
I think we are all coming to the realization that the tier registry is a scam. They made up tiers, then did as they wanted to keep everyone on the highest level possible. How can any offense that the court is willing to move to misdemeanor status warrant anything higher than tier 1. Law enforcement is laughing in our faces because they knew it all along. Lawyers are telling clients they can be assigned a lower tier by getting a reduction, when the fact is they can’t. People spent thousands of dollars to get these reductions and they are essentially meaningless. So what if an employer sees only a misdemeanor, they also see a lifetime offender status.
The communication on this whole fiasco between us, our legal counsel, acsol and doj is a joke.
So really, the only way off the registry is death. O.K.
Sr, I completely concur. I have a PC 243.4a reduced to a misdemeanor pursuant to 17B/later expunged. My tier is to be determined. The difference between tiers is a 3 with a Felony and misdemeanor with a misdemeanor
Furthermore, think about this. I plead to a Felony PC 243.4a. The charge was reduced pursuant to 17b. I was initially posted on the Megan’s website. You can be removed with a misdemeanor battery. I was removed immediately after faxing a copy of the 17b. So, they clearly acknowledged it was now a misdemeanor then?
I just think that the Tiered Registry should only display anyone on ML going forward, but not retroactively. Don’t get me wrong, the registry should not exist at all, but since it does and won’t go away for a while, make the “punishment” goring forward. This way, new crimes that involve sex offenses can be discussed with an attorney prior to going to sentencing. People who commit “sex offenses” are at least somewhat aware of what might await them. But, leave those who committed these crimes in the past alone. They were not given a fair understanding what the registry will entail, since the law was different when they pled. It is like as if a murderer gets out of prison, the law changes, and his/ her offense is not punishable by death. Would they have to now be put to death since that is the new law for their crime? NOOOOOOO!!!
SR, please excuse me. I posted a comment directed towards you and used your Header. Your last comment was absolutely to the point. I concur
I went on line , found 5 different law firms touting the benefits of the 17b as pertaining to the registry, then contacted each one and spoke to a representative about how they were incorrect in their statements. To a person, each one said,” What? Really? Well that isn’t right and we don’t agree with that decision.” Well,
1. Great! You don’t agree with the registry or how the tiers are being determined, no shit!
2. These guys are licking their chops to get hired for appeals to the decision.
3. A lot of people are getting very misleading information from lawyers, although that is nothing new coming from the snake pit that is the profession.
Called Van nuys today told them a lawyer had adviced me to call back and tell them they access the info through CZAR and about the law and they gave me my info!
311.11 A PC MISMEANOR CHARGED AS SUCH NOT REDUCED. 1 YEAR PROBATION (ENDED EARLY 9 MONTHS)NO JAIL 20 COUNSELING SESSIONS.
TIER PLACEMENT….. TIER 1!!!!
I’m so happy i can apply to be removed this year. I wish everyone else a lot of luck and stay safe!
Talk to the supervisor at Long beach police department she said she talked to the DOJ personally and they said dont give out any tier information to registrants with out a letter from us authorizing it.
Now they’re just making stuff up and just lying in people faces the real question is why is Long Beach Police Department trying to hide that information from people or denying people their personal information somethings up I gotta feeling at the Department of Justice and SORNA I going to pull some shiit before July.
Good luck
Called Van nuys today told them a lawyer had adviced me to call back and tell them they access the info through CZAR and about the law and they gave me my info!
311.11 A PC MISMEANOR CHARGED AS SUCH NOT REDUCED. 1 YEAR PROBATION (ENDED EARLY 9 MONTHS)NO JAIL 20 COUNSELING SESSIONS.
TIER PLACEMENT….. TIER 1!!!!
I’m so happy i can apply to be removed this year. I wish everyone else a lot of luck and stay safe!
What is your purpose here? To make childish remarks and try to bring everyone else down?
Stop being such a pathetic child and man up.
Ca, I’m in the same boat as you. PC 243.4a reduced pursuant to 17b and later expunged. I believe we have until January 1st or whenever. I hope my COR will prevail in Feb. Keep me posted on your outcome.
@way too long – I believe you’ve been on this website way too long (pun intended). It’s excusable for you to insult another posting member here who is somebody who tries to provide guidance and help others and is very active in our pursuit for relief. Perhaps you might find a different website more to your liking since you’re so unhappy here. Please feel free to move on.
PC288(a), registered since 1996. Spoke to Alameda County Sheriff’s office. I am the first SOR to inquire about the Tier assignment letter. Was advised by the detective responsible for SVU that I am a tier 2 and that the county has yet to identify a process for distributing letters. He advised to go to http://www.oag.ca.gov (https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/csor/registrant-faqs.pdf) for additional information. He thinks that I would be able to come off the registry on 7/1/2021. But that was his uneducated guess since my BD is in December. This is promising news and since the bill was co-sponsored by Alameda County District Attorney Nancy E. O’Malley, I feel very good about 2021 so far.
Pled nolo contendere to 1 count PC288(a), convicted in 1996. Sentenced to 1 year jail (Served 7 1/3 months), 2 years probation. Registered since 1997. Spoke to Alameda County Sheriff’s office. I am the first SOR to inquire about the Tier assignment letter. Was advised by the detective responsible for SVU that I am a tier 2 and that the county has yet to identify a process for distributing letters. He advised to go to http://www.oag.ca.gov (https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/csor/registrant-faqs.pdf) for additional information. He thinks that I would be able to come off the registry on 7/1/2021. But that was his uneducated guess since my BD is in December. This is promising news and since the bill was co-sponsored by Alameda County District Attorney Nancy E. O’Malley, I feel very good about 2021 so far.
The lady in my registration office is very helpful. I called and she told me that they had not yet received the letters from the state. She noted my name and said she would call when they are received. Considering her professionalism, I am confident that she is being truthful.
I received my tier designation letter in the mail today after requesting it by phone from my police department.
311.11 a – Charged and convicted as a misdemeanor w/ 1 year summary probation and (as part of my plea deal) I have always been excluded from the public website.
Placed in Tier 1 thankfully
Also included in the envelope was a nine page printed FAQ from the CA DOJ. One of the sections caught my eye and has me worried sick. It says:
“If the CA DOJ determines that a person who was granted an exclusion [from the public website] under a former version of PC 290.46(e) would not qualify for exclusion under PC 290.46(d) as amended under SB 384, the CA DOJ shall rescind the exclusion.”
I’m looking over 290.46(d) right now and I can’t believe what I’m reading.
Before SB 384 went into effect, there was a fairly long list of convictions (including 311.11 as a felony) that would make a person eligible for exclusion from the ML website. Since the NEW law has gone into effect, the ONLY people eligible to apply for exclusion are 288s who can prove that the victim was a relative. This is weirdly specific and perplexing.
If I’m correct it means that if a person has been previously excluded from the public site for ANY other reason than 288, that person can now expect to suddenly see their info placed on the public website after January 1, 2022.
Having scanned many sections of the new law out of curiosity over the past few months, I’m stunned that I missed this (as it definitely pertains to me). Now I’m feeling totally blindsided.
I certainly know this new law will prove to be a windfall for some and a total nightmare for others. I also understand how lucky I am to have been placed in tier 1 in the first place, and for that I am thankful. Yet, after having spent many years rebuilding my life under the assumption that my info was/would not be available on the public website, I am pretty scared.
I have several more years to wait before I will be eligible to petition for removal. Are those years going to be worse than the last few? I dread the thought.
I guess I need to know if I’m reading the new law correctly.
I plead to federal possession and receipt of CP on 2003, offense date was 2001 when PC311.11 was a misdemeanor. Sentenced to 21mo, served 18mo with 3 years probation. I have never been on the Meghan’s Law website. I am cautiously optimistic that I will be placed in tier one when they determine the equivalent state law at the time of offense in 2001. Any one know?
Ok so I’m starting to get scared now.
I have a 288.2(A)(1) from 2015. It’s a wobbler but mine was a felony. Got house arrest, probation. Finished all that and got 17b and 1203.4 in 2019. I have never been listed on the website.
The link to that wklaw place says that 288.2 is Tier 3. Also apparently all Tier 3’s will start to get listed starting in 2022.
Am about to lose my job of 15 years and have to start finding another one soon. Am I about to be screwed?
Not being listed was a huge part of the plea deal I took in 2015, if that’s going away this sucks. And having to start a new job in this environment sucks as well.
I’ve been calling the registration officer at my local PD to ask for my tier but they haven’t called back.
Starting to freak out.
My current job offered to let me stay on in a lower position at less than half my pay and I’m starting to think I might have to take it. It would pretty much kill me though, I’d be paid less than I was when I started and I’d be put under someone I don’t respect as a boss.
Fudge.