Pennsylvania State Police have started the process for removing as many as 5,000 ex-offenders from the Megan’s Law registry under a state supreme court mandate and a new law.
Shaquana Green appeared at a Pennsylvania State Police barracks last month to update her information as a registered sex offender. It’s an annual chore she has done for the last five years, having landed on the Megan’s Law list after disappearing with her daughter for three hours in violation of a custody order.
As of this month, though, the name of the 26-year-old Northampton County resident no longer appears on the registry, under a state Supreme Court ruling and a new exemption for parents who had been charged with interfering with custody of children, but no sex crime.
“I get to have my life,” Green said last week. “This is more than a blessing.”
Last year, the state Supreme Court ruled retroactive application of the state’s version of the new, tougher Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act was unconstitutional. In response, state lawmakers passed House Bill 631, a stop-gap measure to keep up to 12,000 individuals on the registry, but that included an exemption for legal guardians charged with interference with custody of children. Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law Feb. 21. The exemption applies to only legal guardians of children, though another bill in the state Senate would remove interference with custody of children as a Megan’s Law offense; Pennsylvania and Louisiana are the only states where the crime is considered a violent sex offense even when no sexual contact occurred.
still waiting for my letter, I know they have at least looked at me, as I have no tier level.
So what exactly are you supposed to tell the trooper when they say, Any identifiers, email, etc.? It does say what the requirements are on the paper they sent out, correct, so if it’s not in the paper with requirements then they shouldn’t even be fucking asking it. Excuse my language people but I’m am not in the mood for this shit.
Wait I’m confused as hell. I have been taken off the registry. I assumed I was taken off because I was due relief and my 10 yrs. Was way over due. But now I’ve read from other posts that just because I’ve been taken off doesn’t mean I’m done or have been reviewed and I might get caught in the act 10 bs. Why would the PSP even bother taken people off registry if they haven’t reviewed them yet. Oh wait maybe to get people to think they were done so they can catch them in their trap. I’m am so tired of all the bs already. We are either done and off or keep us on until we are reviewed how easy is that.
I am genuinely so confused. I have been removed from the website. I had no registration requirement when I was sentenced in 2011. I am coming off because my requirement has expired. Yet I am being told by ML that I have not been reviewed yet.
Can anyone tell me what this means, and if there is anything in Act 10 that can require me to register again?
Wants off
Understood….. I wasn’t referring to your comments in the posts. I have read other posts on here that have referred to something to the fact that they have spoken to PSP and that’s what they have been told. But I understand that when it’s comes to PSP and polititions any thing can happen and there is never a qarentee.
Something is up with all of this.
March 9 total count was 20,537
March 14 was 19,060 and was going up and down that day and the next couple of days.
The count yesterday was 19.080 there about and went down to 19,030 now back up to 19080. You can’t tell me that of those 50 reviews not even 1 came off?
BUT SVP’s on the same dates were 2,068 and went up to 2,092. Did the PASC not say that SVP’s had to be assessed as such, or am I wrong? Seems to me PSP did that on their own.
I also think they are stalling for reason’s known only to them and the state. They could easily search their data base with parameters they enter looking for crime committed date, conviction date, what crime etc to come up with a list that would other wise be removable and review those cases, then remove. Even with sending to the DA’s if that is what they are really doing, and checking those out of state crimes etc.
Is there a loophole concerning time? What I mean by this is for the SO’s. Like if they don’t remove you, you only had so many days to file petition to be removed, after the 21 Feb date?
HB 631
Do you mean the PASC in June 2017 or decision of the cert Deniel decision in January? I know pa had a stay but I believe that stay ended between the time of the SCOTUS cert denial, either one of those dates would be to late for anyone anyway,
Jan 30th they had 22,074 people on reg site looks like they have removed a little over 3000 people so far, their original estimate was 3K-5k were going to be removed due to not having a registrable offense or a 10 yr reg that was enhanced by SORNA so I would say there should be around 1500 or so still coming off and I would bet most of them will be out of state offenders that will take more time to verify.
@ CR I hate to say this but I think you may be upset that you haven’t been removed. You need to use some common sense here. It is true the legislature tries to push the envelope but you are over looking the fact that Muniz and Reed and others has forced the legislature to change their ways Look at this new law it says it does not apply to people that have finished their time under an old ML scheme PSP has removed 3000 of the estimated 4500 that have finished their time. There is only so much they are willing to push the envelope now because of those and other cases and rulings. You saying I will comply with the new law when I have been removed and the new law even says it does not apply to me is just plain ridiculous. I won’t be complying with jack shit now and theres not a damn thing PSP or the legislature can do about it. The legislature has a smaller box to work in now and you need to recognize that. They could try and pass a law that beheads all of us if they want to but they won’t. They know they can not pass a law that retroactively enhances the registration requirements of people that is why they will not try and do it That is why PSP has removed people and that is why I won’t be complying with the new law and that is why PSP has not told me to comply with the new law because they cant. As far as registration in general this new law will be cut up by the PASC soon and their will be more wins for everyone coming of the momentum of these decisions. So don’t tell people they will comply with a law that the legislature and PSP is even saying we do not have to. Common senses tells us they will have to resist the urge to go against the law of the land.
Im an out of state 10 years are up since 2014. Still on the registery and have no other felony or pending felony or misdemeanor. They are still reviewing. They need to collect all data from each state i lived in to total up the 10 years. I moved alot in 5 states and lasted only a year hear and there in each state and addresses. I moved alot due to chasing false dreams. Oh well lol. But yes, they need more time to get the info they need for out of staters. They have to contact each state i moved too and its up to them how long it would be to pull up old stuff. They prob need to get special permission and stuff like that. But, who knows they can just pull it out of a computer. Then fax it or snail mail it to Harrisburg. So, yeah, i figured it will take a few more weeks till i get reviewd.
Tony two Times
Thanks for the explanation, I am an out of state person and yes I have no TEIR and still haven’t received a letter yet either, I am in wait of my attorney to hear back from the DA to have me take. Off, I know I am not required to register and never was according to my plea agreement, just hate this waiting game.
The 4500 number came early on the number put out when wolf signed the bill was this will keep 12000 on the registry.
That is a big difference more than 4500 going from over 21,000 down to around 12,000.
so I’ve been keeping track of the website multiple times a day. it struck me as odd that the numbers were not changing much, and if anything seemed to be climbing. so I started keeping track of a few in my town, that like myself, had their tier level removed. BUT, as I looked at it tonight, the number appears to have climbed again, AND, I noticed that SOME not ALL of the ones I was keeping track of NOW have there level(svp) back. so it looks like they are still reviewing, and in some cases, putting back their level (at least svp) anyway. I am an original 10yr that was switched after sorna. I noticed I still have no tier level. so I’m not sure at this point what that means, did they get to me, or didn’t they? I am going to start keeping a closer eye on the different numbers now. I still haven’t received the stupid letter yet. all this waiting, and playing games shit with not knowing what they are doing is really starting to try my patience….
@Sean I live in a small area with just a handful of RSOs. The other day, every one of them was without a tier. Today one is a Tier 2, the other SVP. They are definitely still doing reviews.
Sean
I have been watching it go up also, what you have to look at is the date they began registration, if they are post SORNA they will be getting their teir level numbers unfortunately, I haven’t received a letter yet either, just junk mail, they told me two months ago they were going to review my file, have they? I have no idea.
@Brian
Looking at start of registration is not for the out of staters. Cause if it is also for the out of staters then it violates everything. I do believe that its for instaters to look at the start of registration date. Out of staters are awaiting for reviews to get all of info from each state a person had lived in. It does total up the 10 years and beyond like me. Out of staters the registration started when they moved to PA. So yes, it’s gonna take longer than others to be reviewd due to other states have to pull up records for each state. So that is why for right now act 10 is in effect until psp gets all info from other states for out of staters. PSP if they just look at start of registration date then it violates because it adds for time the same as SORNA before anything happend in July 2017. So that means that Act 10 does not apply to out of staters and be stuck on SORNA. We all know SORNA history. So therefore the teir would still be showing etc… but since there is no tier on us as we dont see it then yes they review on a temp bases to be put on Act 10 until all records from other states have been in the hands of PSP. Cause simply they can’t just say well take you off for now. They put us on Act 10 until other states sends out their reports to psp. Then as soon as they come in psp will look at it again and take out of staters off the registery if their time total of 10 and or 10+ years on the registery then we get a letter saying ok your done. Does that make since? Cause to me that makes perfect since. So Brian you know me from NARSOL. I had been trying to say all this a few times on NARSOL. Ask your attorney what I am saying is true. Cause that would explain alot too.
So I called to get my status update over at ML in Harrisburg, The lady was nice and informed me that a letter was sent out about Act 10 and that I’m still under review. Then she explained the processes of the review, for what I gather she saying the reviews go by what your status was at the time of the 2012 version of ML…so I’m towards the back of the pack. They only have about 4 or 5 people reviewing about 10-12 cases a day….plus phone calls and keeping the ones who have to register updates. And I think 3 -4 lawyers for incoming court paperwork. Funny thing we only had 10days to update ourselves but they need like a year to go over everything.
@ Towny two Times
I started may,28,2007, 10yr. so I am about as close to the finish line as you can get. so I’m about 6,7 days past deadline of when I would have to reg under act 10. I’m assuming even though I’m that close that they will still make me go through the process anyway for 6 days, cause I’m sure if they are going to remove me, they wont do it one second before they are supposed to. but that’s whats pissing me off, I haven’t got the letter yet. telling me which way they are going to go. I’m still without a tier level, so I have no idea what the hell they are doing. ive talked to my attorney about it, I am one who did have my attorney send them a friendly “reminder ” letter, that my name better be on the review list, as a original 10yr. but neither my attorney or myself have received a response. my attorney says there really isn’t anything I can do, until I find out exactly what they are going to do with me. if they cut me free in 2 months, great, but if they don’t, then, I can do something. my attorney feels there is several angles to attack it, if they try to keep me on. but until my time is “officially” up at end of may. all I can do is wait…that’s the hard part…
@@ Towny two Times
sorry typo, I started may 28, 2008, my conviction was in 2007
Robin, thanks for the heads up on Act.10.3.1. I know you asked me not to call them but I could not help myself. The woman I talked to tried telling me that IDSI was always life registration. I told her it wasn’t. It was 10 years like everything else when it first came out. I then told the woman about Act 10.3.1 and explained that I got out the year prior and my sentence was already maxed out in Jan. 2004. The woman didn’t know how to answer. She seemed oblivious to Act 10.3.1 like she never heard of it. I’m beginning to think these reviewers don’t know what Act 10 even is or how to apply it, or perhaps she was playing dumb hoping I don’t try to fight it?
I seen another poster who said they were basing everything off of the ML requirements of 2012. It sounds like they could care less about Act 10.3.1 and they are going to force me to fight it in court. I don’t have the money for an attorney so I will have to do my own research. I’m hoping I can use ex post facto as grounds for relief. My crime happened back in 89 before there was ever such a thing as Megans Law. Do you know of any other grounds I could use for relief? And the woman did say that I wasn’t reviewed yet. I asked her if I should write a letter to ML headquarters and she said I can.
@ Brian
The DA here in pa probably had your criminal records before you knew anything in the beginning just before they knocked on your door to register. It makes since that the government agencies had your info then. Your record prob be popped up on their system/s. I guess threw some other agencies. Uknown what agencies. You got sucked in SORNA due to the nature of the title that you were charged for even though you were not suppose to register according to your state and judge. When you moved to pa they seen that you had a record and said oh wow ok we need to suck him up on SORNA cause now you fall under that. But, psp went ahead and said well you moved here now you gotta be under our system SORNA. Its wrong in my opinion of psp to do that to you. But, i do see it clearly with their deal. But, they might of not gotten your full record of your sentencing. All they knew was you been charged of a crime that falled under SORNA. Its like if you read a traffic tickit only. But, never got what the court say about the ticket. So psp looked at the ticket without the sentancing part of the ticket. Cause they did not have that info in their system. So thats where things got a bit crazy for ya my brother. As now stuck on Act 10. Act 10 when you were sentenced you did not have a tier lvl. But SORNA gave you one. Act 10 reverted you back to no tier. Now they gotta get a hold of your state to get the rest of the info on what the judge said. Until then right now your on a pending status like me. But, the pending status does not show on psp website. Thats why their is no longer red letter of saying ACTIVE above your picture. But then again the ACTIVE part i may gotten that part wrong. Yes, if they do not take you off within that time you provided the 90 total deal then yes, it is now tine for you and your attorney to fight in a few diffrent ways. Until then bud, there is not much to do. You have to allow that total 90 day deal is up. Then if they do not take you off for then fair good gane of a good winning fight. As for me I am in the same boat but, my state gave me a no tier 10 year deal on 1 account. Plea deal was drop 1 count plea to the other. Spent 6 months in jail. The other 3 months in jail was only to get me in a half way house when they had more room for me an opening in salt lake city utah. Then of course 3 years of probation and a bullshit treatment which did nothing but take $100 a week out of my pocket. Yeah, i only pretended to agree with them idiots so that way i can just get it done. Then in 2003 i was off from probation and the stupid treatment program. Whats funny was i never really folliwed probation rules. Never been cought. Went travling out of state etc… but never got drugged tested except 1 time. Easy passed. But, i still had my guns at that time went target practice every weekend in the desert. Had great times. But yeah, i sold my guns though cause now i have a high powered cross bow. Less noise and better shots. But anyways, i do go have fun and yeah, pa had not said crap to me and i even told them. All they say was that i cannot have a firearm. Nothing explosive. So i just use projectile without any gun powder. Actually i rather use a high powered compound bow than a gun at any day and time. But yeah, dont worry bud we only got just before july hits like i said in NARSOL.
@ Todd
I call psp now 4 or 5 times a day now. Not affraid of going to them or nor stopping them from their work. If they provide a phone number for questions it say please call the xxx xxx xxxx number. For any questions you may have. I am sorry but, thats their job to answere calls. I do not agree what Robin say about it. Its not going to slow them down any. All your doing is speaking with the front desk. Your not bugging the peoole their that is pulling reviews. Its like saying dont call the attorney. Your gonna slow him down on other cases to get to you. Its a crock of crap what Robin say about it. Please call them. No big deal. Your not slowing anyone down. Yeah, they might sound a bit annoyed but its their freaking job to answere calls. Thats why companies have front desk representatives. What is that job title mean. Answer any questions you may have for that particular subjects that they can try to answer. Oh wow really i will keep calling as much as i want. If i want to call 10 times a day than so be it. Its their job to pick up.
Lifetime registration.–The following individuals shall be subject to lifetime registration:
(1) An individual with two or more convictions of any of the offenses set forth in subsection (a).
(2) Individuals convicted:
(i) (A) in this Commonwealth of the following offenses, if committed on or after April 22, 1996, but before December 20, 2012:
18 Pa.C.S. § 3121 (relating to rape);
18 Pa.C.S. § 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse);
18 Pa.C.S. § 3124.1 (relating to sexual assault);
18 Pa.C.S. § 3125 (relating to aggravated indecent assault); or
18 Pa.C.S. § 4302 when the victim is under 12 years of age; or
(B) in this Commonwealth of offenses set forth in clause (A) who were required to register with the Pennsylvania State Police under a former sexual offender registration law of this Commonwealth on or after April 22, 1996, but before December 20, 2012, whose period of registration has not expired; or
(ii) of offenses similar to the crimes cited in
@ robin
Their only front desk rep. They dont handle reviews. They look things up and answers questions and few other small task. Sorry i don’t believe what you say to be true. I had called 12 times today. They told me the person who does reviews are busy. They have tons of staff working. How thick can you be thinking the reps handle reviews?
Got my letter today and it was post marked for the 26th three days late, also my SID didn’t ckange, I compared it to a 2014 update, what does that mean I wander, others posted that their Sid changed so what is mine the same? It says the same thing I posted a few days ago on here.