PA: Names being removed from sex offender registry

[theintell.com]

Pennsylvania State Police have started the process for removing as many as 5,000 ex-offenders from the Megan’s Law registry under a state supreme court mandate and a new law.

Shaquana Green appeared at a Pennsylvania State Police barracks last month to update her information as a registered sex offender. It’s an annual chore she has done for the last five years, having landed on the Megan’s Law list after disappearing with her daughter for three hours in violation of a custody order.

As of this month, though, the name of the 26-year-old Northampton County resident no longer appears on the registry, under a state Supreme Court ruling and a new exemption for parents who had been charged with interfering with custody of children, but no sex crime.

“I get to have my life,” Green said last week. “This is more than a blessing.”

Last year, the state Supreme Court ruled retroactive application of the state’s version of the new, tougher Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act was unconstitutional. In response, state lawmakers passed House Bill 631, a stop-gap measure to keep up to 12,000 individuals on the registry, but that included an exemption for legal guardians charged with interference with custody of children. Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law Feb. 21. The exemption applies to only legal guardians of children, though another bill in the state Senate would remove interference with custody of children as a Megan’s Law offense; Pennsylvania and Louisiana are the only states where the crime is considered a violent sex offense even when no sexual contact occurred.

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@Ed
I called psp a couple of weeks ago and they still haven’t done my review, are they still reviewing I don’t know the ansyto that, I don’t think anyone but psp has the true answer honestly, I just checked the number on the reg earlier, it went up a little over 200 offenders, I don’t know what’s going on 100%, they gave an estimated time of 9 to 18 months to complete everyone’s review, will they do it in that time frame, no one knows, some people say they will be finished in the 90 days witch ends in 19 days, we are all required to comply with the new BS Act 10 of 2018 by or before May 22 2018 unless you have received a letter from psp saying you finished. Hope that helps.

So who here is actually over their 10 yr limit and gone in to update their record like me without getting a letter?

@Brian, that is so weird that they twist things around like that. Can you provide the link to the that lawsuit that won in 2016 by Tommy Lee JACKSON? Reason, is cause it sounds very intresting the way you put it. Im also wondering if anyone on a sex offender registery really is a protected class citizen. Cause, if not that maybe the reason why people on the registery hasnt gotten off the registry yet as far as in your case and other cases. Like you said, noone really knows what is really going on with the psp as far as the reviewing goes for the 9 to 18 long months. I do know that i been seeing on Narsol that terry is trying to beat the act 10 down. But, as i read one of his post earlier when he states of suing the hell out of psp or pag or something like that. He first said some huge amount of money then about a paragraph later he provided a diffrent amount he was suing for. But, reading on further and further im not sure if he is getting a bit confused. He say one thing and yet he say another. Yes, im trying to see how he is working it all out but hard to follow him at times. He seems as if he knows what he is talking about most of the time. Just scratching my head here to see what he say and what the psp say to you. It just seems like 2 diffrent languages going on. But perhaps both are right but in diffrent ways. I do know this that psp only just decorated windows with flowers of their choices. But, yet a bag of shit in hiding of it all but all smoke and mirrors to just take what is known to be expo facto stuff. But, to me it just serms like they took an old painting and mask it up a bit to make it look like a newer painting and good enough to satisfy their own blood lust and the state’s eyes to a final masqueraded SORNA 2. To me its a complete bullshit deal csuse its not complete true but just a cover mask tp satisfy the little psp blood lusting fcktarted minds of a twisted little evil bleeeeeeep.

I’m over 10 year and haven’t gotten any letter and been off the website for months since February I think however I guess I’ll have to go in by May 22 I can remember when my registry said 10 years until AWA came in and I think you guys know the whole story my active registration date started 10 21 03 I figure I shold be off did my probation way back it’s really confusing as hell I can’t understand it but I guess I’ll jus see what they do then ether get a attorney or well I just gotta wait see I jus know from all I read on here it’s mest up I can only wait and see is all I know

Shaun, so here is what happened. PSP in Hbg was called first. They were short with me and couldn’t tell me whether or not I needed to go check in for the semi-annual. So I show up and stated that I am not sure whether or not I should be here. Officer takes me back after checking. My case goes back to 2004. He looks at record and says I am tier 1 and registration is 15 years, but my case is being reviewed. Said to him how can that be? You can’t change 10 years to 15 years, that is unconstitutional. It clearly states on Megan’s Law website under links, there are 5 categories of registration – before 2012 conviction 10 years or life registration, after 2012 tier 1- 15 years, tier 2- 25 years, tier 3- lifetime. If it is 15 he said I would be reviewed in 2019 and come off completely in 2022. This is what is in their system. He said I only have to check in once a year. So is the case really being reviewed or is there actually something in the law that says they must make me tier 1? He did state I have more info than most people that walk in.

@br

what happened at the update? was it different than any other update you have done? do you know if they have done your review? did you ask any questions of the trooper that did your update, or did he volunteer anything new? I’m just curious, as I’m a 10yr as well that was expanded under sorna. but unlike you, I’m not done, I literally would be technically done may 28th, so I know I have to go in, but just looking for insight, ive been following things daily, as well as keeping my attorney up to date. I know they have “looked” at me, as I still have no Tier, but like most people, that’s the only concrete thing I see so far.

@br

that’s the response I was afraid of, but also kind of figured, its very obvious something isn’t right here… one of two things, either the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing, or there truly is something underhanded going on here..either way psp wants everyone in the dark, so no one can formulate a viable plan to fight it till its to late.

sean, honestly i think the police are clueless as to what is happening in hbg and what they are doing. police are there to process you, that’s it, if there are any changes or updates. this was my first time since the new law passed, a semi-annual checkup coming off of sorna. again he said i knew more than that average rso walking in. they still did ask questions like my email identifiers and social websites. And he did say my case is being reviewed. The best thing to do is educate yourself on act 10 and what is says. also go to the ml website and look at the registration requirements under links. then you can ask or refute questions if they try to place more time on you. They have been derelict on the responsibility in sending letters to people on what is occurring, even if in the letter it just say it is best if you come in to update your case. just think of the people who don’t know about act 10 or legal decisions since muniz was ruled on.

Here is an example of what I think they are up to. I think they are listing info from the last time you registered this guy was absconded now he is not There are other 10yr reg people I have seen where they should be finished and they are listing the info they last had. This is why I say do not register under this new law If they do not finish your review and they removed you already call the DA and ask them if you haven to register and what they will do if you don’t. Someone will have to take PSP to court on this they were talking about doing this at the hearing This will defiantly be grounds for damages. I think they are going to say people voluntarily gave them the info when the come back in.

https://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/OffenderDetails/Addresses/17132

Deebo I can see where br is coming from I’m in the same boat my registration started 10 21 03 I’m not excited about going in there before May 22nd but I’m not crazy about getting locked up or or having cops come visit me either I mean to just say well I’m not going to do it because of the muniz decision and Supreme Court ruling I mean I agree with you in a way it should be cut and dry I’ve been also taken off the website and like br I couldn’t get much out of Harrisburg and when I called PSP local it said that I was a tier-1 so very confusing yes I would like to wait until my review is complete May 22 is coming soon I sure as hell don’t want to be spending anytime in the damn jail yeah I could call the DA’s office I doubt I’ll get very far but I could do that I should try that maybe and I probably should call back up to Harrisburg I think I would be foolish not to go in by May 22 being that I actually really I’m do relief I think for people that actually are legitimately do relief it will inevitably get sorted out but I’m not going to be some gung-ho cowboy and be like some dumbass and not to go in at all on the other hand I feel what you’re saying. lol its really crazy

can u cut and paste? ur link when right to the main page of ml website.

Debo, your insain. I do not mean in a bad way. Im saying as what your saying is that its best not to go to register fight it in jail. To me that seems like saying if you got a bad leg. Its best to cut it off and go to the hospital to get fake legs. Prob solved. I really hope that your just kidding. Im not a sex offender but have someone who lives with me is a sex offender. That person he/she/it/transvestite/both undisclosed person under my roof. That person is a relative of mine. The thing is its really best to just go in before the 22nd. If they put a person on the act 10. Then so be it. But not to go in to register under act 10 is not worth the lose of freedom and yet really be stuck on act 10 for good. No one really knows whats going on with psp, pag, courts, political people, gov, anything at this point due to except poof act 10 is here. Not wanted to know how it proofed up. But, rather to understand it clearly and NOT go to jail. Everything will somehow be ok and not sure how. But, the fact is FREEDOM is worth it. NOT jail or risk of going to jail. Do what you want. But, do not tell people to not register is complete bullsht. To me seems like you are a high risk of just wanting someone to be a ginnypig for your own satifaction of knowledge. Trust me im being very nice about this. Im not being rude or unkind. Im just stating that the PSP can and will arrest people without delay if people are told to be on act 10 even on a temp basis if people do not comply to the act 10. It say it on the act 10 bill. Please read it carefully before you tell people not to register. I hope to all to hell that noone listen to you for that. It is insain and really rather at a huge high risk.

@BR and anyone questioning if they should go in and update because you were removed from the website, like I have said a few times on here, if you have not received a letter saying your off or done registering then just to be safe, I would go in by or before May 22 2018 which it states on the act ten letter I received, it also states that psp is not responsible for us not receiving the act 10 letter from psp, I’m pretty sure but don’t quote me and I could be wrong but they can arrest you if you are required to still register, Debo is correct in saying that act 10 doesn’t apply to people who are don’t with their time on the reg, I wasn’t don’t my 10 years in 2013 but SORNA caused me to register as T2 for 25 years 12/20/2012, I know Act 10 doesn’t apply to me but I still received an act 10 letter telling me I have to comply with act 10, my attorney advised me to go in and do the update, he said we don’t want to be fighting this law from a jail cell basically, so that coming from my attorney kind of tells me this is no joke, if I were you I would go update and figure it out later.

Brian. Lol aghhhh !! That’s jus it that’s what gets me that I’ve not received anything! !! Nada nevertheless I certainly agree with what you say I’m not trying to be a modder for no buddy and ok act 10 doesn’t apply to me I am with without a doubt. I’ve not received an Act 10 invitation LOL or anything that’s what really gets me nevertheless just to cover myself I think I should go into PSP

yea no letter here either. psp in hbg did say if i go in, that would keep my address updated for them to send me a letter after review. then the officer was joking that they sometimes go after the wrong ppl when they have not much else to do. had the lady in hbg given me an inkling that i would most likely stay off the registry, i might not have gone in. instead she said we will put your photo right back up if necessary. same at the front window at state police office when i said i don’t know if i should even be here. no letter has come to say my case was reviewed. so that was my decision to go in. my objective here was to let others know. These have been my only posts on this forum. if they change my time, then it will be time to get a lawyer which i have no money for. its hard enough to come up with work with the insane background checks on every job that are smothering, just another form of discrimination.

Debo if that’s the case why would the lady at PSP when I called them tell me they have me listed as a tier 1 ? I said that’s seems odd she also suggested that I should call Harrisburg Megan’s Law number I said something is definitely wrong I should be off she said I seen where you did come in in February but I didn’t get anything to go in in April the way I understand now you do like one year instead of every 4 months as I said my registry used to say 10 years until the Adam Walsh act went into all that blah blah blah I think I will make an attempt to try to get ahold of the Da I don’t know how far I’ll get with that but I will try it they taking me off the website as well I don’t have my face on there no more. Lol I dont know what ta think. All i do know is I was put on in 10 21 03 and my 10 years would have been 2013 or 2014 that lady at PSP said they have me listed as tier 1 what ever is goin on is beyond me but yet I’m not on the site that’s kind of crazy in itself makes no sense to me

Someone had mentioned to me back some time ago on here that if I was back to a tier 1 I should be reverted back to my original sentencing and that should give me relief so…Anyway I do know I’d be a dam fool not ta go in by May 22 ether way I mean hell I know It might be mest up but some how this thing I’ll eventually be made right if I gotta get a dam attorney then we’ll that’s what we do LOL there might be some kind of big conspiracy going on but I really doubt it

here is a perfect example of someone in my area, with the same exact crime as me. only difference is the date of crime.(1yr before me) BUT.. clearly a single 10yr offense (6318) reg start 5/8/06.. so 06 + 10yr=2016.
CLEARLY THIS GUY should be off….yet..there he is…tell me something isn’t very wrong, he should have been one of the first removed under the push of that magic button..i suppose there is still time for them to do his review by 22, but he shouldn’t be on now?

https://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/OffenderDetails/Offenses/9631

Another example is this a person still on the registery from 1999 same offence but out of state. I will not publish it cause the person wishes not to be on here. Out of respect i wont say who etc… but should of been the first ones to be off the registery even though origanal was a 10 year deal in that state who been convected originally. Still on the registery

So, is it correct under the new law that if you move to PA from another state where you have been registered since conviction, in 2006, in my case, you don’t get any credit for the 10+ years you have already served, but have to start a new 10 years when you register in PA? I think in GA and VT, and perhaps other states you get credit for time served on the registry in another state. Anyone know of any others states like that?

So for people whom are out of state offenders, I spoke to my attorney today and got bad news, he spoke with the da and said, if your crime in another jurisdiction / state requires life time registration then pa is trying to make us register for life under that jurisdictions statute because of act 10, So they are saying that my crime is equivalent to indecent assault in pa but in co it requires lifetime registration under Act 10 in pa for the state I come from, it’s not considered retroactive expostfacto because they are supposedly acting in good faith, due process was supposedly when I signed my plea agreement, as for equal Protection my attorney said I am not being treated unequal because my crime in Colorado says life but it pa I argued it’s not life, I may be getting a new attorney soon… so as for me getting that relief I was waiting for, it’s not happening, I was pissed earlier but I think I need a civil rights attorney not just a defense attorney.
My probation was a deferred sentence, when that was up my guilty plea was supposed to have been dropped without prejudice, as long as I completed probation requirements without screwing up, I never screwed up but someone screwed me, my guilty plea apparently was not dropped, in pa prior to 12/20/2012 indecent assault did not require registration which is their words not mine, I don’t know that, if my crime was considered indecent assault then why did I have to reg for 10 years and the 25 when when I was never required to, even in my plea agreement it says nothing about registration, then SORNA came strolling along and now, nowwwwww its going to be life, for me anyway. My fight has just begun my friends.

@Debo Unfortunately, it’s the other way around. My state, Illinois, is lifetime for almost everyone (including me). I’m hoping to find a state where my crime, CP possession, would be 10 years and I could move there and qualify for removal from the registry based on time served out-of-state. I think that’s my only hope to be able travel without IML restrictions. PA isn’t it, I guess. I have read that GA might qualify.

This act 10 is not gonna be around to long because It s not civil as they say. Its punitive ! an Supreme Court is not going to let that thing stand if someone can get it to the Supreme Court I just can’t see it I just can’t see the Commonwealth accepting it I’ve read a few things I’m not a lawyer and I don’t even have to be to see that it’s certainly not civil LOL and I mean that’s not going to be hard to show

A quick question about PA ML: does PA have a de-registration process? I may have need to be in the PA/NJ/NY area for a while, and am gauging where is best to stay. I know NY is out of the question. NJ seems reasonable, but may not work for my lodging needs.

TIA.

as I have done every morning from 03/01/2018 when I should have been removed from SO list, I checked this am and for my name it shows no record found, I went to the national SOR and it also shows no record found, I have not received any letter saying I’ve been removed, so I hope I’m not jumping up and down for no reason, but i’m a jumping, it has been a very long 11 years of pain job’s lost family lost had to move friends by the truck load’ gone, i’m sure you all know what i’m saying, anyway I just wanted to pass this on and thank you all for everything, I will post when I get a letter, again thank you.

ED

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