FL: FAC Member Advised Passport Confiscated at Airport

[floridaactioncommittee.org – 9/14/18]

A [Florida Action Committee] member just advised us that as he was about to board an international flight (which he properly reported under IML) he was approached by 3 US Marshalls who confiscated his passport and told him he had to get a new one with an identifier. He was not permitted to travel and he had received no prior notice that he had to update his passport.

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My passport expires this month. Now that this has happened I don’t know if it’s even worth renewing.

How can this practice or law be challenged? Under violation of USA constitutional rights and UN Human Rights

I say don’t do international travel because of the effects of the IML, and our government having their heads in the ground of doing nothing about this great problem. Had any registrant with this new passport that he/she has have entered a country freely and unmolested? What if that traveller is no longer required to be on the registry are those ex-registrants still required to be compliant with the IML and required to have the crazy passport?

Every bit of this SCREAMS ‘UNCONSTITUTIONAL’.

Another example of idiot politicians making laws that normal citizens have to spend the next several years donating to and organizing a lawsuit. Wasteful as HELL.

The politicians should face jail time when they pass unconstitutional laws. Let me tell you, this country would FLOURISH virtually overnight if such a law passed. We need such a law like as need prison reform in this free jail cell country.

I sent in my passport a month ago for renewal early. My goal was to get a new marked passport to avoid just such a situation. The passport I received had no marking – just a very expensive regular passport. Not sure what to make of this.

The registration specialist here in Wisconsin reached out to her contact in the US Marshal’s office who informed her that I was good to go and should continue using this passport until I was notified that it was being revoked.

Very troubling situation.

Just got a job that is going to require me to travel to Europe for business. I lost my passport and need to get a new one; this would be my first new passport post convicition. Is there anything I can do to best ensure this doesn’t happen to me before I fly out at the end of January?

I have followed the correct international notifications for MO. Supposed to leave for Prague from JFK tomorrow night. My regular passport is valid and I have the IML paperwork. Obviously I am concerned. Will be screaming bloody murder if they take my passport. Janice can expect a call

While Janice’s efforts in Cali are well documented, why is the ACLU at the national / federal level, not making a concerted effort to fight this?

NYCLU is no where to be found, and is more concerned with defending dreamers and undocumented individuals, than it’s own registered citizens.

PA and other circuits have made gains in regard to retroactive registry extension (WHICH WOULD HELP MANY AVOID IML)…but none of it has spilled over to other circuits.

JANICE…DO YOU HAVE ANY INFLUENCE WITH NYCLU?…..I HAVE CONTACTED THEM AND RECEIVED NO SUPPORT. WHY DO THEY DO NOTHING IN REGARD TO US, WITH ALL THEIR RESOURCES, INSTEAD OF EMULATING YOUR EFFORTS?

The implementation of this cruel law is incredibly uneven. Details of this case matter; could this guy be specially in the crosshairs of the State Department, or can we all expect the same? Nobody can say.
This action certainly chills travel by “covered offenders”, as intended. For some comic relief, the author of the IML, Chris Smith, was ridiculed on Colbert last night.

I’m wondering if anyone has heard anything as to whether the IML Challenge that Janice was involved with will be appealed or not?

This is nuts! Wow. Number 1, how would you prove if you informed your registering agency? 2, are they just picking on those convicted of child related offenses? Or, are they only informing destination countries if this? Not cool!!

I plan on calling the passport office Monday to see if I can find anyone with actual knowledge of the situation. Not holding out hope that I will find anything but a runaround, but I’ve got to do what I can. I have half a mind to buy the cheapest ticket I can for international travel just to get revoked so that I can get the proper passport.

I have several questions :
1) Has this story been confirmed ?
2) Are there missing details ?
3) Has this happened to anyone else ?
4) Has anyone received a revocation letter and then gotten a new passport with the identifier on it ?
5) Can US Marshals legally revoke valid passports on the spot? I thought that by law there must be a certified letter sent that your passport is officially revoked. It seems bizarre that US Marshals can revoke your passport without due process.

One further idea:

What if this person actually was sent a letter revoking her passport but he/she never got that letter. Then of course the US Marshalls could confiscate the revoked passport. Because if the story is simply that the US Marshalls revoked the passport prior to boarding, this should be all over the internet that this is going on.
This brings me to the following question:
Is there any way, prior to going to the airport, to find out definitively whether or not your passport is still valid or if it has been revoked?
If not, then we are at the mercy of the US Postal system as well.

Each and every one of you and us have an opportunity to fight back against Chris Smith REGARDLESS of where you live!

Join NOW! and do the best you can in whatever way possible to show this evil man who has made thousands miserable that we can fight back!

He got us kicked out NOW let’s KICK HIM OUT!
https://welleforcongress.com

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/22CFR/HTML/22CFR/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-2898/0-0-0-3439.html

Ҥ 51.65 Notification of denial or revocation of passport.

(a) The Department will notify in writing any person whose application for issuance of a passport has been denied, or whose passport has been revoked. The notification will set forth the specific reasons for the denial or revocation, and, if applicable, the procedures for review available under 22 CFR 51.70 through 51.74 .”

I took a trip to Paris last month using a two year old passport and was questioned for an hour or so upon my return (as usual). The officer (i do not know of what agency, ICE? perhaps) chastised me for not have my registration form with me (he may have meant travel form – which i had submitted in accordance with the laws). He said he’d have to put it in his “report” – horrors.
Just yesterday i got a letter from the State Department saying that they wanted their passport back and telling me I’d have to apply fresh for a new one that would have some marking included. The requirement for submitting travel plans 21 days in advance had already made it practically impossible to travel for business. Has anyone used one of these new specially marked passports. What kind of reception are they getting?

since our passports will be marked, we should at least be able to travel freely without that stupid 21 day notification. But no, there intention is to interrupt our trip solo, friend or with family.

This is a worrisome time when the federal government is revoking passports for no apparent reason, targeting entire groups of people as “unamerican” or worse. This story isn’t SO related, but it is maddening nonetheless. The utter bureaucratic tomfoolery involved is mindboggling.

https://www.kctv5.com/news/kansas-woman-told-birth-certificate-wasn-t-enough-to-prove/article_144c19aa-b50f-11e8-94f5-6b921312a97a.html

What day is kristallnaucht planned for? I want to make sure I am prepared.

Please… everyone involved, Janice, NAROL, ACSOL, Travel Matrix, SOs please track and report any passport taken away at airports from this point on. Talking about it is useful (at times), but I want to check a list like the travel matrix where I can see how many, risk assessment level(?) circumstance (?) and which states passports have been confiscated. This type of matrix/information will show what is really happening with passport confiscation. Thanks.

So somewhere there must be an image posted of what the marked passport looks like, showing the text, font, etc.
Why not go out and have a rubber stamp made that looks just the same, and stamp your own passport? Especially those who just got new ones without the marking.
How can they confiscate your passport saying you can’t travel without a marked passport when they can see the marking right there?

My Husband has been issued a expungement and 17B reduction for his conviction 288 (c) (1). we traveled in feb out of the country no problem. Went to Jamaica was taken off the plane and sent home in July. Today received a Cert letter of revoked passport today. This is very heart breaking we are both crying just because it seems so unreal ….

I now understand the plight of a student who has managed to obtain full scholarships to the University of California, Berkeley and will be graduating with a degree in Egnlish who has attended college for 5 years now with one goal: to leave the US and teach English as a second language and is now planning on killing himself, ,giving up.
I can only say this. If he does I pray God hears the cries of every drop of his blood like that of Able in Biblical history and unleashes judgment upon this country with hellfire. In the name of Jesus remove your blessings and curse these people so evil in their hearts as to destroy the lives of so many and drive them to despair. Lord. Allow America to be a sign to the world of the curse of injustice and corruption. In Jesus name, I pray!
I think I too will give up. Why bother?
Better to find an extravagant way to wake up the world to the tyranny and have my life, or death make difference than be a prisoner to this society.
History repeats its self, only the victims change.
maybe this is what foreign terrorists feel when they strap on vests and blow themselves up: desperation from the corrupt chokehold of colonizers and oppressive governments. It is not just the government pray a curse upon but the evil hearts of every citizen who through indifference and ignorances pushes this Salem-witch-hunt forward. nothing has changed in 200 years nothing!

Is there a list of offenses and/or PC codes to see if a person’s charges qualify for a passport mark? I renewed my passport in June 2017 but that was prior to the marking of passports. Many thanks and apologies if I missed the link in someone’s comments.