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My husband just registered by telephone today with the Los Angeles PD. They asked him for the last 4 digits of his SS#, and if any of his information had changed. The officer told him that they will be contacting him by phone “ when this virus is no longer a health concern” for him to come in to the station and update his photo. He said she was very nice to him. He asked for the female officers name and badge # and will save the recent outbound call log on his cell phone as proof he called.
I find the penalties for sex-related crimes to be more and more insane and obscene.
Example, this guy. First, the headline makes it sound like a brand new charge. Not so. Second, if he’s 24 in 2020, then in 2014 he would have been at most 18. I wonder whether this is a video of HIMSELF at 17 he’s being charged with.
The charge and waste of LE resources is SICK. 15-30 YEARS plus lifetime supervised release is INSANE. This is mind boggling.
From the article:
“The new charges against J… stem from an October 2014 video he allegedly created and shared through Snapchat which depicts child pornography, the US Attorney’s office said.
If convicted, Jones faces anywhere from 15 to 30 years in prison as well as a $250,000 fine and a supervised release of five years up to life, the US Attorney’s office said.
Investigators across multiple agencies including the Christian County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI, Kentucky State Police and the Kentucky Office of the Attorney General worked on the case, the US Attorney’s office said.“
Wow, I wonder whether they had enough resources to nail this dangerous fugitive?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/us/kentucky-man-pardoned-arrest-child-pornography/index.html
@ All Its a bit hard to actually inderstand anyone on here, Some are wonereing about travel abroad, some are wondering about their jail sentence, time spent, their stipulations, the harshness of government oppression,how its effecting their kid, or who’s going to violate who if one doesn’t bow down to government. And some have the gull to say God is an entity or all this internet bis is data based or computer tracking. One wonders who knows what a person does behind closed door
Should all this be a simple problem in much of this internet issue. If their were no internet than none would have been in jail for those that had an internet encounter. Travel thats up to the one that wants to travel for his or her reasons. Family life well thats how you intesact with your wife, kids and your own welfare about life or can we all be psycho at times and do a “Here’s Johney number” to those family members. One wonders were does that leave love or love thy neighbor, or is God an entity like some say on here. Than who made you.
Sure this contrivirus thing has killed many people but I would tend to believe the A-bomb killed a lot more by those quick thinking scientists. After all this ordeal we are facing today we should all put a stop to much of this registry degrsation and free as many people as much of this registry issues is childs play. I’m sure Janice and her team know that. As far as beliving in God well thats up to each individual or was it Adam and Steve that both ate the fruit. I’m also sure they can put posts up on internet sites advising about pentilities about sexual abuse as Janice does on here for adults that use this site. Hey many people like a georgia peach but many abuses can still get rottened .
With this DOWNTIME I have been wondering IF and IF NOT WHY has no one go after the STINGS that have been used to trap a whole bunch of us? Tax Payers are paying for LEO to sit on the phone and computer and work to trap citizens. I do understand searching for CP but since I was arrested for chatting with a “14 yr old” how come someone has not taken up this cause for us.
Doc and Mot for years since 2012 when I got caught up in much of this registry I have wanted to know the “why” question. Is all this registry inducement for safety reasons, Provoking another or protecting to get one in this trap or who is the Testor in all this. Common sense would be the one thats instilling on the other with this crafty charm to get one to travel down to meet up with some ficitious person. Who is invading who’s conscious in ths. Steping up to voice out on a lot of this regstry is always good and Janice and Chance are in their plus all of us also. Many times the individual’s letters they write get tossed in the trash but some do take notice.
Government inducement by manulipation means of a sexual flavoring is a vain by any government via thia internet. Sure writting letters can at times get results. So who’s responsible for all this inducement the Testor or the one that is overshadowed by all this. Do many of these ordeals save lives via this internet confusion in this deceitful effort. Myself I look at all this internet sex registry as Christian values Government seem to have lost in this liberty and justice for all. Its like a stumbling block of enforcement vaniety. So much of this registry is a double standard to control .
In a bombshell development that threatens to expose public defender’s offices throughout California to lawsuits for their failure to adequately represent accused “sexually violent predator” defendants, former Coalinga State Hospital “Hosprisoner,” Gaspar Zavala has been awarded $2.8M by the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. The L.A. County Board of Supervisors is now expected to approve the negotiated agreement.
After years in which hundreds of defendants were illegally held at Coalinga State Hospital under the Sexually Violent Predator Act, some being held without trial for as long as fifteen-to-twenty years, and in which public defender’s offices throughout California deliberately underfunded their legal representation, the Zavala case promises to upend California’s civil commitment house of cards through massive numbers of follow on lawsuits. Several law firms are now lining up scores of potential plaintiffs with this precedent now successfully established.
The State of California, it emerges, had stopped funding county public defenders for civil commitment trials and they, in turn, sued California for $3B.
The Court found that Los Angeles County colluded with its Public Defender’s Office to illegally redirect funds away from “sexually violent predator” trials. Much the same deliberate neglect of S.V.P. cases occurred throughout California promising to unleash the filing of hundreds of lawsuits against individual counties.
My thanks to Hosprisoner Mike St. Martin for keeping me apprised of this story. We had not been able to break it until the Zavala case was successfully settled.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/2020/zavala041420.htm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/releasing-sex-offenders-is-no-way-to-fight-coronavirus-11585869568?mod=flipboard.
How deceptive! Mentions registered sex offenders right after mentioning a released inmate who murdered four days after his release …. but doesn’t mention extremely low recidivism rates until the next paragraph and then only in reference to federal inmates. Furthermore, does not mention that the released convicted sexual offenders may well have been incarcerated on FTR or other non-sex offense charges. Details matter.
In other words, an extremely biased article by a disingenuous author.
if anyone moved from Florida while still on probation or did not 100% complete all court terms like fines/cost/ completed SO Counseling and termed out of probation you may want to read this and quickly act on it before the law changes
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/great-case-no-duty-to-register-if-not-released-from-the-sanction-for-conviction/
🤗 Happy COVID-19 Thought!🤗
Here’s a possible “silver lining” to the COVID-19 pandemic: Local, State and the Federal government might end up being so broke (due to lost tax revenues) that they will have to cut non-essential programs, for example, the operation and maintenance of sex offender registries. 🤗
(Unfortunately, Registries are so popular with politicians and the public that they may be the very last thing that any level of government chooses to cut. 😏 Still, one can dream! 🙂)
Yikes. Kagan joined the Alito dissent?? That makes me nervous about her if a registry case gets before SCOTUS…
Alito, typically, doesn’t want to overturn precedent because it might mean a lot if work for the states. Oh boohoo. Overturn unconstitutional laws, PERIOD!
“Overturning that ruling, Alito argued, “imposes a potentially crushing burden on the courts and criminal justice systems of those States.” He claimed that the majority “brushes aside these consequences and even suggests that the States should have known better than to count on our decision.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-criminal-jury-verdicts-must-be-unanimous-overturning-decades-old-precedent.amp
For those who know we talk SCOTUS here a bit and their leaving precedent in place (stare decisis), especially their previous ruling, a big 6-3 win today in the court going against themselves in requiring unanimous verdicts from a case out of Louisiana: Supreme Court rules criminal jury verdicts must be unanimous, overturning decades-old precedent | Fox News
https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-criminal-jury-verdicts-must-be-unanimous-overturning-decades-old-precedent.amp?usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D&_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fsupreme-court-rules-criminal-jury-verdicts-must-be-unanimous-overturning-decades-old-precedent
The usual suspect (i.e. Alito) poopoo the idea but he lost this time
I have found a parallel to the RSO dilemma in the world, and that is the Pit Bull.
I rescued a Pit Bull a few yrs back. I have always had bully breeds and understand them. They are gentle, affectionate canines that will reward you with companionship and yrs of pleasure.
But society has all but abolished them. Local, state, and national governments all over the world have banned them. Parks refuse to allow them in. Landlords will refuse you if you have one, even as they allow other noisy breeds.
Politicians jump on these misconceptions and pass laws to remove them from their jurisdictions in order to appease their constituents. Sound familiar?
Over 1.2 million canines are euthanized every year. At least 800,000 are Put Bulls. They are the classic American story of anything that society objects to. Tolerate it while simultaneously trying to make it extinct.
So as you can see, we aren’t the 1st and won’t be the last. The American Indian (of which I am 1/2 thru blood), LGTBQs, the Pit Bull, ourselves. Tolerance is not an American trait, so don’t expect it to change any time soon for us. That is until something comes along that politicians can make society hate it more than the sex offender.
Maybe we will get lucky and an alien race will land and the human race can focus on expanding their hate into the galaxy instead of limiting it to Earth.
Woman arrested for trespassing at playground.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/arrest-of-idaho-mother-at-closed-playground-with-her-children-sparks-protest
OH, the irony! I just wonder if the public understands this is forever for us? Sad thing is, no one would rally around our cause and lament the unfairness of it when we’re arrested for visiting a school, park or playground. They only care when it happens TO THEM.
There have been many protests in quite a few states going on about constitutional rights vs “stay at home” orders. Even a few people arrested for violating these orders. My question is are these stay at home orders laws or protected under our constitution? We have a federal guideline, yes, we have state orders, yes, we even have localized orders. Some even say violators are subject to being arrested.
Where is the line drawn?
🤗🤗 Another Win for ACSOL & Janice!! 🤗🤗
Haha! Yucca’s attorney was confident they could win… but it would bankrupt the city! Really??
Every other CA city has repealed, lost in court, or settled….. but you just go on thinkin’ ya coulda won, Yucca! 🤣🤣 Yuck, yuck!! 🤣🤣.
“Town repeals sex offender ordinance”
http://www.hidesertstar.com/news/article_2b25c6c2-868b-11ea-b4e4-3734f8ac86c6.html
Questions about residency and presence restrictions pertaining to Re: Taylor.
** Question 1. : “Was the residency restriction always 2,000 for all registrants before Re: Taylor?”
I know Re: Taylor specifically identified parolees only, but I often thought that 2,000 foot residency restriction or any restriction restriction was for all registrants. On ACSOL, we questioned if Re: Taylor applies to all registrants because from the specific language, residency restrictions can apply to all registrants not on parole.
From the Penal Code 3003.5 (b): “(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is unlawful for any person for whom registration is required pursuant to Section 290 to reside within 2000 feet of any public or private school, or park where children regularly gather.”
Link to PC 3003.5 : http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=3003.5
** Question 2(a). : “When was presence restriction implemented and ruled unconstitutional in CA?”
** Question 2(b). : “When was the Halloween restriction implemented and ruled unconstitutional in CA? ”
Where I reside, the Halloween restriction wasn’t repealed until 2014.
The direction of these queries is curious because if these laws were unconstitutional, then these laws were obvious disabilities and punishments. That would mean a “disability and/or punishment” was levied.
An excerpt from the PEOPLE v HAMDON case: “In Alva, the California Supreme Court unanimously concluded sex offender registration, “[b]eyond doubt,” was not punitive for purposes of the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment: “[T]he purpose and intent of registration are regulatory, as a means of assisting law enforcement in dealing with the serious problem of recidivist sex offenders. Moreover, registration is not punitive in effect notwithstanding the legislative intent. Registration has not historically been viewed as punishment, imposes no direct disability or restraint beyond the inconvenience of compliance, and has a legitimate nonpenal objective. Though registration may have incidental deterrent or retributive effects, and applies to conduct which is already a crime, these features are not sufficient to outweigh the statute’s regulatory nature.” (Alva, supra, 33 Cal.4th at p. 279, fn. omitted.) In an earlier case, the California Supreme Court similarly concluded sex offender registration was not punitive for purposes of ex post facto analysis. (People v. Castellanos (1999) 21 Cal.4th 785, 796 (Castellanos ) (lead opn. of George, C.J.); id. at p. 800 (dis. & conc. opn. of Kennard, J.).)”
People v Hamdon link: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1664533.html
In being so adamant about what is or is not punitive, the added restrictions from Jessica’s law along with presence restrictions, were ruled unconstitutional under the CA Supreme Courts. Would that mean all those registrants who qualified for being on probation during this unconstitutional implementation be allowed to de-register, provided they successfully completed probation under 1203.4 statute?
Following the letter of the law, the unconstitutionality of Jessica’s law implementation, from 2006 to 2014 (?), is a direct disability imposed under the registry system, to wit 1203.4 states that the defendant “be released from all penalties and disabilities resulting from the offense of which he or she has been convicted, except as provided in Section 13555 of the Vehicle Code.”
And if this is so, that a 1203.4 recipient does relieve one of duty during this time period of unconstitutional implementation under Jessica’s law, then does also mean the state of Ca has wrongly labeled those who earned the 1203.4? I do recall lawsuits of mislabelling a person a registrant when they are not.
I am Finally a registered citizen. I was released from prison as of 11.29.19. I obtained a job on 2.10.20 and then lost it mid March due to Covid-19. Since having a job, I have not received or found an answer to my question in regards to the stimulus money.
I was locked with the FBOP for 10 years, 2 months and 19 days. I haven’t filed taxes for that entire time. So, knowing this now, will I be getting a check?
Before prison I was a tax payer and I currently do not owe any money to the IRS. I have filed a 1040ez form with Turbo Tax and they have told me that the IRS does have my information.
Anybody have any thoughts?
😠 This is absolutely pathetic!! The fellow’s offense occurred nearly 20 years ago and he is obviously homeless. Yet these pathetic FCSO deputies act as if they captured an international terrorist who’d committed crimes against humanity and other heinous atrocities. Then they glorify themselves with a news article and a YouTube video of their escapades.
It’s appalling that our taxpayer dollars are funding this kind of crap!! And it’s Florida, so they’ll never stop harassing him…. ever!
How surprising they don’t mention research studies indicating that his likelihood of reoffense is virtually zero after 20 years.
https://www.palmcoastobserver.com/article/sex-offender-arrested-for-non-compliance-living-on-island-near-bings-landing
I got a chuckle out of the term “We’re all in this together!” when I first heard it. Now Mitch McConnell is saying no Blue state should receive a Coronavirus bailout. New York Gov. Cuomo said, as have other sources, McConnell’s state Kentucky has received federal bailouts for years. Seems like “We’re all in this together!” isn’t an accurate term. But everyone here already knew that. After all, we’ve been written out of every piece of legislation providing relief related to Covid-19. As a matter of fact, besides the last stimulus bill, I can’t think of a time when I was included to benefit from ANYTHING that any other taxpayer does. To make matters even worse, they use my tax dollars against me passing bills which deliberately harm me and my family. How many years are you going to put me on the outside of society, working completely against my best interest, still requiring me to pay taxes and then spitting that lie in my face? “We’re all in this together!” I’d like to get something crystal clear, “we” excluded me 30 years before this pandemic. Year after year, tightening the screw. All of the sudden, I’m suppose to stand unified with my fellow American. I’m sorry, but it seems unity is a value that’s been systematically driven out of me over time. I’m close enough with my neighbors and have a sense of community in town. Also, I feel a connection here with y’all. But there’s at least a million tax paying American families that know that “We” are not “all in this together!”
Judge rules Michigan stay-at-home order doesn’t infringe on constitutional rights
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/04/judge-rules-michigan-stay-at-home-order-doesnt-infringe-on-constitutional-rights.html
“A Michigan judge on Wednesday found that while Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home order does “temporary harm” to the constitutional rights of Michigan residents, the harm doesn’t outweigh the public health risk posed by the coronavirus outbreak.”
Oh, wow! Just replace “sex offender”with “coronavirus” and it all comes full circle!
I was just listening to the conference call and people please stick to topic on your questions. People are wasting time for Chance and Janice. Think board thinking on the overall process.
San Francisco is requiring Registrants to appear in-person to obtain a registration “waiver” which obligates them to return in sixty days to formally register. So, in other words, we have to appear TWICE this year in-person rather than once.
I lay here at night hoping to get covid-19. I think this could finally put me at rest. I seem to not have the will to either hang myself or drive up the coast and put my car off a cliff.
Problem is I don’t know how to go about contracting it.
Seems it would be a good way for me to go, not having to think about family, not having to think about all the other crap.
Wonder how long it would take Johnny Law to figure out I wasn’t going to make my next sign in date.
A.D.A.T. ~ With the current situation, I am sure there are jobs that won’t have time to do any background checks. Have you contacted manufacturers of hand sanitizers, toilet paper, etc, or packaging these items? I can only imagine how many people are needed to fiulfill all these orders, and I would doubt they would conduct a background check. Just a thought. Also, why were you denied UI benefits? Can’t you open a claim? I don’t think, a criminal history has anything to do with qualifying for these benefits?
Now Will Allen I have told you about watching your mouth but its ok my man as we all get frustrated over this. And with this Convid-19 issue it just brings a bit more confusion to all this ordeal for many. Even A.D.A.T. says he has no friends. And this, a mother says we all need to have hope and yes the right hope goes a long ways.
Some say they are treated like leapers and many other things but we are all human and althought our offenses might be somewhat different in many ways we are all looking at two different aspects. The one’s that physically touched a person and the one’s caught up by some internet devilish scam. Does anyone wonder why this Virus came up? Is it to tell people to get their act in order. While I’m in VA. and most all of you all are out in CA. its seems like a whole different culture shock.
Sure I wanted to go to trial with my ordeal and win in some way in my ordeal but I was even suprised when the detective that conned me via the internet offered me a plea deal. I believe Proverbs 17:15 can give many some more understanding on that one. I am sure Chance can help you guys out also in this understanding.
Hey I don’t like a lot of this sex registry ordeal. I myself wouldn’t have anyplace to stay as both of my parents are gone and I only have my sister here in VA to help and I get about 2 hundred a month in Social security. And yes sure at times I have wanted to be in jail but their is a reason for all season.
So you guys out in CA stand up for your rights and true justice and yes I’m sure Janice and Chance will be in your corner to help in many ways. Oh and yes a bit of the gospel goes a long ways in a person’s life. Much of this registry nationwide is a black mark on many but change is going to come I’m sure.