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Bret Kavanaugh just made a very interesting general statement about the SCOTUS reversing a ruling and conditions by which it could be sassed. Not surprisingly the registry meets all the conditions he sets forth for revisiting it. Here is the article:
Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh did not author Monday’s opinion that overturned a 1972 decision regarding unanimous jury verdicts, but in a concurring opinion he outlined how he believes the court should determine when it is appropriate to throw out “erroneous precedents.”
Kavanaugh asserted that history shows that the tradition of following judicial precedent – commonly referred to as the doctrine of stare decisis – “is not an ‘inexorable command.’” Still, he made clear that “to overrule a constitutional precedent, the Court requires something ‘over and above the belief that the precedent was wrongly decided.’”
The justice then put forth suggestions of three questions justices can ask to decide whether a wrong decision warrants being overturned. First is whether the old decision is “not just wrong, but grievously or egregiously wrong?” He explained that justices can look to quality of reasoning, consistency with other decisions, changed laws and facts, workability and more in answering that question.
The second question is whether the past case “caused significant negative jurisprudential or real-world consequences?” This includes “real-world effects on the citizenry, not just its effects on the law and the legal system.” The third question is whether overturning the case would “unduly upset reliance interests?” This would include looking at how old the precedent is and how people have relied on it.
At Homedepot the other day a person behind me who was without a mask was stating very loudly that he went to pick up his food for dinner but they would not give it too him without a mask and was told to leave the premises. This person said and I quote “Those *&^% A*$#@ treated me like it was Nazi Germany all because I wasn’t wearing a F*&^%$# Mask.” Standing in front of him I thought…. This person does not realize how lucky he is because when Covid19 ends he is free once again.
This is not good as Eric’s but, here is a Mayor with a PhD. and his ignorant comments
and letters to the State Governer, AG, Dist Atty AlCo., etc…is not with facts nor educated guesswork NO RESEARCH from a offender from 1997. NOTE; the thoughts for The Registry doesn’t apply to his …comments ugly as they are given;
Yes, Judge Reardon required Vien to wear an ankle bracelet, but the bracelet only tracks his movements, it allows us to know where he has been. It does nothing to prevent new crimes from being committed. Let me repeat, a man suspected of being a violent sexual predator has been released into my community with no guarantee that he will return for trial. District Attorney Nancy O’Malley vehemently opposed his release. What does this say to our officers on the front lines defending our community, removing predators from our streets when a judge like Reardon allows him to walk away free. Reardon apparently is more concerned about the safety of a suspected rapist than the safety of our community. His priorities are poorly aligned.
The Mayor of Livermore on a social media site copies his letter to the above and the community to instill FEAR
Precedent matters. Seemsa bit like the patterni law today is wearing a mask. On this registry issue the precedent is it seems law enforcement use the same pattern to get one to excuse himself or go down to meet this under aged person that basically turns out to be a sheep in wools clothing.
Laura mentioned about this person not wearing a mask and one would suppose if government said wear a mask when outside shopping or go to jail what would be the best measure in all this pattern type government issue. While comparisons are good this registry is not in many ways or were do commandments come in when someone overrides’ authority. Remember a mask is to cover up things.
What concerns me most about COVID19 is the way it is being used to promote the electronic agenda. Apocalyptic computer modeling of the pandemic has been exposed. https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/05/professor-lockdown-quits-after-breaking-own-rules-to-meet-lover/
That is the problem also inherent in the registry database. The model presumed a high rate of recidivism that is questionable at best. Other government use of computer modeling can be seen in hurricane path tracing models, which too are often wrong last 48 hrs.
I see in the news today California is busy building an army (20K) of “Covid contact tracers”
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/05/417346/ucsf-partners-state-develop-public-health-workforce-covid-19-response
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/may/05/san-diego-contact-tracing-coronavirus-trackers/
All of may sound benevolent to most, and perhaps irrelevant to some, but constitutionally speaking this use of the machine infrastructure has onerous potential for individual liberty.
Covid carriers cannot be considered criminals. Some of them certainly may not have mens rea or even know they they carry it. Public safety it seems can be the excuse for all kinds of inappropriate government activities.
We have the greatest economy. we have the greatest medical team, we know where this virus came from, we know what it is, even the greatest criminal justice system, yada, yada. But in the long run who actrually know’s the thoughts and intent of a person and yes they (law enforcement) will induce some trumped up charges on others to vindicate their position in much of this registry ordeal. I’m sure everyone seeing another without a face mask could make a bundle today.
https://old.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/gecd1q/the_sex_offender_registry_should_only_be_for/
The comments are of the predictable group think variety.
Hey All –
I have a question for anyone who registers with LAPD. I registered my annual in March, in person with no issue. I moved in April, called in as directed by their “closure” and was told I will be called when they open. I gave my new address, all well received by surprisingly polite cop. Issue I now have is my brother checked the Megan site for me and it still lists my OLD address. Are they waiting to update until we appear in person?? I don’t want ANY issues. Please help!!!
Group thinking can be very interesting to many. Even wearing a mask can be unpredicitable. All this mask does is cover-up things. One can wonder whos’ covering up in much of this registry issue in these inducements. In fact I was watching mask of the Red death last night. I like some of the Poe’s movies with Vicent Price. and his bio was good when he played charactor actors. So is all this ordeal today to wear a mask or not to wear a mask in much of this internet ordeal. Sure I’m we all are for keeping people plus myself safe as I’m sure all of you all are.
Saving lives is what matters but whos’ predicting in this virus ordeal when anyone could get this mask of the red death plague virus. if one wan’t to look at it that way. Yes we should all think of others better than ourselves, Sure I hate this pandermic and even keeping many of those labeled Violent in Prison or on Tier 1 whatever that means in prison labeling is inhuman and disrespectful in much of this human challenge. We all have rights and when they take away inalienable rights than thats where Janice and her team come in.
Student sexual misconduct accusations — You can find multiple online sources for this info, but finally this swings to a more middle ground, hopefully, with due process being restored for accused college students. Frankly, why colleges are in the middle of this with their own offices on this topic is beyond me since there is campus security who can investigate (or refer to a third party such as city/county/state LE to investigate) and then refer to the local DA much like the other LEOs can do when required. Keeping it on campus, much like the Greek system does, reeks of kangaroo courts for the accused or shifty justice overall, which has played out with higher education institutions as has been seen throughout the new changes from the previous POTUS Admin. May due process reign more than previous, but the battle will continue as we all here know in a push/pull manner for advantages.
Students accused of sexual misconduct get stronger protections under new federal rules (LA Times)
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-06/students-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-get-stronger-protections-under-new-federal-rules
Just thinking the last few days and ways to make money. I lived off 4k a year been risking in the stock market, lots to learn but I’m poor had nothing to lose. So actually hit on a company and plan on leaving the country but want to be a little better prepared. My idea I wanted to share with the board was this. I want to buy some land to live on, I figure a few plots and reselling high. I figure when the government of the county finds out I’m an offender, they will want to pay that price im asking to get me out of there. Any thoughts on that working lol?
Seems like that California Riverside sheriff know’s a bit or has some compassion about the constutition. Sure sending someone to jail for not wearing a mask or trying to work out problems and other everyday rights we all take for grant. Sure this virus is a wake up call to everyone. We all have hope and we all on the registry don’t want to be kicked around. Nothing wrong with properteries one has or hasn’t or even selling it. While we are all offenders it seems some tend to look at the negative before the positive which is a bit callous. Whether one knows about anothers past is inmaterial in many respects.
Sure I believe in Janice’s efforts and the team out there are working to make things right for the better cause. Voicing out is the best thing to do or who is playing a character role in this convid-19 ordeal. This virus is here for a reason and I’m sure its to wake up people all over the nation. We can all sit around and talk about this or that or even high taxes but we all want fair rights and true understanding of those rights. Cleaning up the justice system is a good goal and effort. Even a bit of Christianity if thats the mustard. One wonders today who respects who.
Well, after years of not making enough income to file taxes, I got my stimulus check today for $1200. For most of us on the registry that’s a lot of money. I encourage every person here to apply for their stimulus check. All you need is your basic information, a mailing address to have a check sent (PO Box okay) or a bank account number or net spend debt card for digital transfer and a DMV ID number to verify your ID. I got my check in about 6 weeks. If you are a SSI or Social Security recipient, or filed taxes in 2018 or 2019, your payment will be given automatically in the method you use normally to receive your money. If you made more than $12,000 last year, then you may need to have filed last years taxes before payment is made or wait until your 2020 taxes are filed and use that stimulus money to offset your 2020 taxes.
Well, on top of all the other stressful conditions surrounding all of us these days, my neighbor has taken on the responsibility of “exposing me” as a sex offender. He has currently taken up watching me when I leave my apartment in a quest to “catch me” (his words). The mental and physical stress that comes with this is causing a loss of sleep, paranoias about walking my dog or even going to my car.
This is a guy who sits on his steps and smokes pot all day, screams into his phone while walking back and forth in front of apartment, is supported by his working wife, and brags about being in prison 25 yrs ago. Yet he can go about his miserable life while with inpunity while making my life a living hell.
I have attempted to :
Ignore him
Look for other housing
Speak to apartment manager
Nothing has worked
I have done as much as I could to move beyond my offense. I don’t want to be in this environment. It is so unhealthy for someone like me. My emotional well being is looking into the abyss and I don’t see any other route for my life. This is scary.
⭐ Florida’s Catch-22 ⭐
It appears that Florida wants to have it both ways. The State argues that if convicted felons have not paid all fines and restitution, they should not be allowed to vote. At the same time, the State argues that if a released, convicted sex offender has not paid all his fines and restitution, he should still be required to register. So which is it, Florida: one or the other?
Daytona Beach News-Journal: Don’t let sex offenders hide from registration | SHERIFF RICK STALY.
https://www.news-journalonline.com/opinion/20200508/donrsquot-let-sex-offenders-hide-from-registration–sheriff-rick-staly
If any of you would know me, you would know that what I did not only didn’t feel good, but that it made me feel like crap.
I am a very peaceful person. I hate confrontation. It solves nothing and usually only leads to more confrontation. My reaction was contrary to my beliefs. It was a “pressure valve” response, and that pressure will surely build up again.
I lay awake most nights wishing I could disappear. Not in the sense of my death, although that is also is a common thought, but to just blend in so much that I can move through society without a trace. To become an ant, or a grain of sand. Something that wouldn’t be noticed among the millions of other grains on the beach.
But at the same time I long for the kind of interaction I once had with others. Just to see a friend and say “hello”, to be able to see an attractive woman and think about catching her attention, or even to buy a client’s child a gift for their birthday. These things are no longer possible. The stifling anxiety and fear of being exposed is so great that I quickly recede into my shell and wonder if tomorrow will be, as they say, another day. Or will it be another confrontation.
Ok, many of you guys stop it. I know all this is frustrating in many ways. First off this pandermic is here for a reason. Second, wth this sex offense via the internet or whatever someone is turning a person’s life upside down. Sure I’m going thru all this myself, maybe not in the way others do and yes I would like to be self-sufficent but at this time we have this vail upon us or a black cloud so don’t look at the negative at times.
Sure people want to teach people a lesson but who is teaching who with this type of internet blackmail. I’m sure we all have scruples and justice is a bit of a sour apple at times. Yes bringing things into prospective or compliance is good in any justice system and hopefully the USA will take note.
TS talks about kangaroo courts and A.D A.T, Love, peace, happiness just wants to be left along and I’m not choir boy but I do know, “at times” to keep one’s head above water at any age. Some of you all that have wifes, still have problems going thru all this. Striving to seek work, kids situations, etc, and trying to get motivated. We all need a bit of help and motivation as this registry is no picnic at times but truth comes out in the end.
@A.D.A.T.
Don’t sell yourself short. You are just as capable of generating happiness as you are in generating misery. Happiness does not reside in things like getting the attention of an attractive woman or buying gifts for some client’s kid. Sure they feel good but that is not happiness. Because if that was true then rock stars, famous actors, and other celebrities wouldn’t be killing themselves.
Happiness resides in your world view. The narrower your focus on what you believe makes you happy the more miserable you are. The more specific you want things to be the more disappointed you are. The more you yearn about the things you couldn’t do anymore the more you miss out on future opportunities.
There are so many things and opportunities around us that we miss out because we’re focusing on past wants and desires. If you can’t go back, screw it, move forward! Just explore and try out new things. Don’t have set expectations. Experiment. Make the most out of your current limitations.
But ultimately the “happiness” comes out at being at peace with your situation, focusing on the things you still have, and be open to possibilities. And don’t be afraid. Most people stay miserable because they are afraid to try something different.
I know this because I live with it everyday just like you. I hope you find this helpful.
California has gone from 21 billion dollar surplus to 54 billion dollar deficit. Severe budget cuts looms ahead:
https://calmatters.org/economy/2020/05/california-budget-deficit-severe-cuts-ahead-recession/
Janice, would this be an ideal time to press Sacramento to move Registrants with felony CP charges out of Tier 3?
FYI: Thursday, May 14: Today’s PBS NewsHour has a segment on COVID-19 in prisons. ☹️
Since the window is closing this year on getting a certificate of rehabilitation for those of us who are stuck on Tier 3 next year (in spite of a no-contact case), anyone heard any reports on what’s going on with that? I understand courts are closed and no one is getting a COR during the pandemic.
I am trying to move to Texas. I have been applying for jobs and may end up getting a background check. My conviction is now more than 10 years old. My question is does anyone know if my conviction will still show up even though it is more than 7 years old because it is a sex offense and I have to register every year? Thanks for any help.
People in Deland Fl had a block party. It was scheduled and allowed but it went a bit overboard. Why aren’t these people on a registry (see part between the ……………………’s)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqMIPcq0HVA
Starting Saturday afternoon and into early Sunday, an estimated 3,000 people gathered across DeLand for a party or parties that spanned several locations. While the daytime was relatively uneventful, things started getting out of hand as day turned to night.
Volusia Sheriff’s Office deputies working alongside DeLand PD encountered several issues: A long gun pointed out of the passenger window of a passing vehicle, a loaded gun handed off from one convicted felon to another, agitated crowds of bystanders and bottles, jars and bar stools used against law enforcement as weapons or projectiles.
Many in the crowd recorded video of their perspective of events.
Today, in a story headlined “Police, citizens clash after peaceful DeLand memorial block party,” The West Volusia Beacon published quotes from some members of the crowd:
“This is what they do to black people,” one party participant said. “Have a block party Downtown and see what happens. … It’s not fair; it’s not fair.”
“Can we enjoy ourselves? No,” one woman said, adding, “We are human too — black lives matter. Every life matters.”
She asked, “Why do they try to take our humanity? Our pride? It’s not fair to us — we’re all human. We all bleed the same blood. When he us, he made y’all.”
Sheriff Mike Chitwood responded today by releasing video footage of the events and defending the deputies and police officers who were surrounded by agitated crowds and hit by glass bottles and other objects.
Around 10:30 p.m., a passenger in a vehicle pointed a rifle or shotgun out of an open window, in the direction of a deputy and pedestrians gathered at a gas station at Beresford and Spring Garden avenues. The vehicle continued northbound on Spring Garden at a high rate of speed. Deputies and police searched for the vehicle with negative results.
As crowds grew in multiple locations, impeding traffic flow and causing safety hazards, deputies and DeLand police officers began ordering vehicles out of certain areas. As crowds dissipated in one location, new problem areas would arise.
One of those areas was the 1200 block of South Delaware Avenue, where a crowd of about 1,500 pedestrians and vehicles formed on the street. Shortly after midnight, deputies were walking southbound on Delaware and observed two men (Alphonso Parker and Charles Turner) exchanging a firearm. A deputy approached giving commands to drop the gun, and Turner ran away.
The deputy ran after him; Turner threw the gun and kept running, but he was taken to the ground nearby. Deputies recovered the firearm (Ruger 9mm, 15 rounds with one round in the chamber and the hammer cocked). Several other deputies responded to help secure Turner, who was resisting. He was charged with two counts of possession of a weapon/ammunition by a convicted felon, tampering with evidence, inciting a riot and resisting an officer without violence.
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Turner, who was already out on bond on other charges, has a criminal history that includes 25 felony charges with 5 convictions and 28 misdemeanor charges with 13 convictions.
Parker was arrested on many of the same charges as Turner, with the exception of tampering with evidence. He was also charged with possession of a concealed firearm.
After securing Turner and Parker, two deputies were hit with a cup of alcohol. While the person who threw it was being taken into custody, one of the deputies was sucker punched by another male subject who immediately fled the area. Another deputy and DeLand PD officer were hit with a bar stool and mason jar by other members of the crowd who immediately fled. Glass bottles were also being thrown at patrol vehicles in the street while arrests were being made.
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One deputy sustained a minor knee injury and a DeLand PD officer had a minor head injury when he was hit with the jar.
The behavior that occurred here overnight was dangerous, senseless, unacceptable and an embarrassment to our community.
None of it will deter law enforcement from coming back when we’re needed.
According to https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/doxing-arrested/ doxing can be pursued under cyberstalking laws. Okay, so if publishing private information is doxxing, then what is ML? I ask this in the vein of it rising to being punitive, to its being cruel, to its introducing risk of loss of life and limb. All those types of things point to an 8th Amdt. violation. It would be a very tough argument to make, but I wonder… Public standards DO factor into C&U cases. Dive into Gregg v. Georgia (428 U.S. 153) for a little more perspective on SCOTUS’ thoughts on C&U determinations.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/428/153/
Is it Morally RIGHT OR LEGAL TO KEEP SOME PEOPLE IN BONDAGE BECAUSE OF OTHER PEOPLES SEMI FOUNDED FEARS ?
What is this Country coming to when garbage Reasoning, Logic, and Rational as well as Emotional overdrive OVERRIDES True Facts, Statistics, Evidence, Research and Science !
Is this Judicial System Right and Just to Iron its mistakes or Unintended excuses out decades after Sentences were Served ? Not to mention all the other cases and situations !!
Doesnt Justice entail Balance and Consider extenuating circumstances and allow room for CHALLENGING ALL LEGAL PENALTIES AT ANY POINT WITHOUT OBSTRUCTION !
When the Gov. Is always trying to get 1 more Oppressive Law on the books to take RIGHTS, LIBERTIES AND AVENUES FOR REHAB AND RESTORATION !
Thks…