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Hi all I have a question that someone may be able to answer. Not sure if it’s just a mistake the way the law was worded or if I’m reading it wrong.. In the new tiered registry bill, there is a provision for tier 2 to petition to get off after 10 years, it states:
b) (1) A person required to register as a tier two offender, pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (d) of Section 290, may petition the superior court for termination from the registry after 10 years from release from custody on the registerable offense if all of the following apply: (A) the registerable offense involved no more than one victim 14 to 17 years of age, inclusive; (B) the offender was under 21 years of age at the time of the offense; (C) the registerable offense is not specified in subdivision (c) of Section 667.5, except subdivision (a) of Section 288; and (D) the registerable offense is not specified in Section 236.1.
I have a 288(a), one victim under 14, when I was 19 years old. Would this apply to me?
At first glance, I would say no. Because in section (A), it says the victim has to be 14 – 17 years old. However, in section (C), it says the offense cannot be a violent crime under section 667.5, only exception being if it’s a 288(a). But, the victims for 288(a) can only be under 14, not 14 – 17 years of age so why does it specifically mention this? Why would it say that you qualify if you have a 288(a), yet one of the other qualifications need to have the victim at 14 – 17 years old?
Can someone clear this up? So confusing haha, I might be reading it wrong.
Interesting article addressing the “non-delegation authority” and even mentions the case of Gundy:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/supreme-court-gundy-doctrine-administrative-state.html
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Remember last year when the Michigan ACLU said they were discussing legislation with state lawmakers to reduce the registration time requirements to 10 years, 15 years? And then we were told, as the process dragged on into late summer and fall, “Well, it’s an election year now, so this might be hard.” Now we’re in lame duck season–literally the safest season for any lawmaker to actually get practical things done–and what are we presented with? This trash law that makes the lives of post-2011 registrants harder and only marginally makes the lives of pre-2011 easier (tbh, as someone who owns a home not in any “school safety zone” and was a Tier 2 this doesn’t improve my life in any respect and only makes my registration requirements MORE burdensome).
The ONLY solution going forward for all registrants is eliminating the registry as cruel and unusual punishment. Everything else is a complete waste of time. Taking people out of prison and putting them in a world where they can’t get jobs or housing or even just leave for 20, 25, 50 years is cruel and bizarre and if the courts don’t recognize that then they’re utterly useless. When these laws were created we didn’t know what “doxing” was, we didn’t have smart phones with registry access glued to our hands, we didn’t have employers routinely searching registries before hiring any applicant (even 10 years ago this was uncommon), we didn’t have Angel Watch, we didn’t know that there would be several bills proposed annually in each of our 50 glorious states designed to make the lives of registrants harder. Now we know. And it’s utterly contemptible that these registration laws continue to stand. In a world where both parties claim to be committed to “criminal justice reform,” the continued support and expansion of the registry is proof of their lack of meaningful commitment.
All of these registration laws wouldn’t of been a hot potato issue, if these lawmakers would of left people alone instead of raising hell on a bunch of lies. Those on the bench should have spines and actually follow the constitution without the hysterical public recalling them. I guess wrong is now right because we all have been convicted of something wrong and trying to live a just life; while watching the wrong being done to our families and ourselves.
I have completed my two years probation and will be looking to travel for vacation. Was curious to know if any veteran travelers have useful information they may want to share. I live in a SORNA state and must let the registry office know if I leave for 3 or more nights. I plan to have my wife drive in case of an accidents and avoid unnecessary harassment. Is it best to contact the local police in each place we plan to vacation and treat every state like I must register immediately? Has anybody had a run in with police and questioned about how long they have been in the state? Just curious if I am thinking to much about it or if it is smarter to register everywhere and hope the registering offices give me correct information. Or is this just the new reality for a relaxing vacation haha 😑
On a general note, who wants to eat the icing and take the cake too in this sex conspircy fraud. Talk about voter fraud. Oh thats right those that set people up are police officers. My mistake. So who’s controling who in a lot of this registry type game of probation vs Jail time, senting pictures, graphic language. One wonders who’s incriminating who. If a real teenager was involved one could understand.
Seems government doesn’t want to look into their mistakes and nobody’s perfect and thats a proven fact or did Washington actually chop down the cherry tree. They say action speaks louder but someone has to “act” to prove or disaprove the action or is everyone missing the point of Paul in the scriptures.
Now I’m not going to talk any more about biblical as it seems its like a pipe dream to the many American’s today. Why do you think this Convid-19 is here? Are we all learning lesson’s of truth? How about the act of nature.
Well nature takes care of itself but for the human that is involved in much of this registry garbage its a circle of stranger danger or one step out of line and your back in the joint or are we all perfect or who calls the upire of a game a toad hopper.
Josh – it is just utterly sad and frustrated the position we’re now facing. What’s worse, it gets worse. 3 business days to 3 days?? My reporting place isn’t even OPEN on weekends and I have tried to go to MSP previously (as a test) to offer changes and they will NOT take them unless that is your place normally. So now we have 1 business day if changes are made on Thursday? Let not forget to mention the publishing online of ALL our private information for everyone to harass us. Utterly ridiculous. I’ve gotten all the ACLU emails and sounds like there was absolutely ZERO effort to make any meaningful reform from Rep. Filler or his committee. I know you’ve spoken about filing suit. Have you spoken to your attorney on this potential garbage? Any feedback? I’m contemplating my own actions as well, looking for feedback.
Just ran across this case in research, Doe vs Brown, 177.Cal.App.4th 408. It challenges PC 290.007 in the ways it digitally avoids PC 1203.4 and publishes convictions that have been dismissed.
The court concluded that it’s “regulatory and not punitive”. On prima facie, when anyone reads an offense published online by DOJ that no longer exists they will reasonably believe it’s a current and valid conviction. Seems like a punitive disability. As far as I know, no law enforcement agency can produce a certified copy of conviction once it has been removed and replaced as a dismissal after conviction.
Does anyone have experience joining “abolitionist” activist groups like Critical Resistance or Democratic Socialists of America? I wonder if they would welcome people on the registry…
@ New Person
Just read a legal study titled California’s Right to Privacy by Pepperdine Law Review. The paper states privacy breaches are classified into 4 classifications:
1) Intrusion into private matters
2) Public disclosure of private facts
3) False light
4) Misappropriation of name or picture
False light = protects the interest in the truthful dissemination of information about one’s self.
Truth is a defense to claim of false light.
The paper considers false light insignificant tort. Maybe because defamation laws are usually the tort action.
Couldn’t find any case law in respect to false light, privacy and the DOJ’s publishing online convictions that no longer exist.
I have court this week. I am off probation and I am going for a 1203.4 which I know they cant deny it. I was caught in a bs backpage sting. I have a misdemeanor. They didnt make me take classes and my fine was $150. I did 40 days in county jail. My lawyer also wrote a motion to get me off the registry. I used the same lawyer to terminate probation early and when my lawyer filed the motion the DA went crazy and said I was a menace to society that I was a threat to the public. This time we haven’t gotten a opposition letter from the DA. I don’t know if that is a good sign or not. Has anyone had luck winning motions? I am nervous and I just want my life back. Any advise would help. My lawyer said he would do the appeal and take it to the California supreme court for free because he feels like what they did to me was so wrong the police broke state and federal laws during the sting. How can they say I was looking for a minor when I was on an adult website? How can they switch the age when we already agreed to meet and I was at the location? I said no to sex 4 times after the age was dropped and drove away the police called my phone and said they needed help and me being dumb I agreed to help and I was arrested. My lawyer feels like the police went way to far and broke a lot of rules. The police lied of the police report and said I admitted to the crime and said I was horny. I found the video on YouTube and I can prove the cops lied. Also the video was uploaded a day before my first court appearance why wasn’t it given to me during discovery? The DA keeps saying that I admitted to it I keep telling my lawyer why cant we use the video to prove they are lying and he said that because I didn’t do a prelim I cant use the tape because at prelim is when we can say the police lied. Please help with any advise you can give me. Thank you guys.
Due to the subject matter of this general comment section people under the age of 16, 18 or can’t read the back of a Weatie’s box are not allowed to review this content. They say all’s fair in love and war. Well this sex registry takes the cake as far as true justice goes and as far as some type of cover up goes. Well thats government for you and with many on this registry gulf it amounts to no mure than “Control”.
As mentioned on another comment on here about biblical and yes anything can be biblical but nothing can overshadow the truth. Sure going to church is good if thats what one seeks to understand life a bit more even about that wife you married ( sorry ladies ). Now marriage life can be sometimes rocky but with this hanging over many of men’s heads or one of the family kids it can be ruff. This comment is for mature audiences only.
Now we have just seen a president (pardon the song lyric) cry like a baby in a manner of speaking so what does that say about government, prosecutors, juries and the like. Why do they…. the courts, probation officers want to make a plea deal with you … Hi I’m Monty Hall… Lets make a deal!,,,, a plea deal…..if thats not fraudlent behavior than what is swearing all about. Someone doesn’t understand the this legal system when it comes to this sex registry garb. And this sex chatting is a bit too much via this internet as far as those that give the come on and those that tell a guy to get lost.
So the next time one sees something wrong with this sex registry point it out to Janice and her team and I’m sure it all comes out in the end or should Donald Trump pardon us all for having bad behavior or should he just say get him out of here. No offense to Democrates or Republicans. Looks better in writting. One wonders who offends who in this devilish ordeal. And we all thought democracy was all about the truth.
Hello,
I was one of the lucky ones who was able to keep his job after I was arrested and convicted. That was almost 7 years ago. Since then I finished probation early and got 17b and 1203.4. 2 years ago I bought a house and everything has been as good as it can be. I managed to rebuild after the disaster of getting arrested.
Well, last week I got laid off. 15 years in this job. They’re giving me until March so I have a few months before I need to find something.
But I’m scared to death of having to look for work with me being registered. I’m an IT person. What are the chances I can find a job paying 6 figures that doesn’t require a background check?
My wife has a steady job and we have savings so it’s not going to be desperate, but I worry about the future.
I have to do my yearly in a couple of weeks too. What a slap in the face that after paying my debt to society this still hangs over my head.
@ New Person
California Constitution, Article 1, Section 9 is a persuasive argument. And PC 1203.4 is a contract between state and resident.
The state won’t lay down on this challenge. What do you anticipate would be their rebuttal argument? All I can find in research is the state said Kelly vs Municipal is “bad law” and enacted PC 290.1 in 1981 (which is now PC 290.007).
@ Ditto
I hear you. Most can vent their frustrations here because they are no threat & caught up in a widely cast net or are just plainly innocent. For you and I one can gather that we have been declared not guilty by state law.
I’ll work on a writ and post it here. The key imo is showing the court that it’s not regulatory or remedial in function. Its plain unconstitutional, publishing online underlying accusations that have been summarily dismissed.
Ugh I found out that a relative has passed due to COVID-19 over the weekend. I Don’t want to travel to a state where you have to quarantine for 2 weeks. I rather wait till the spring or summer to pay my respects. Talk about throwing my emotions in a wood chipper. Hopefully nobody else has go through this especially if they are a registrant.
Has anyone ever used https://sexoffenderonestopresource.com/ to find housing or anything? The info for my state is old but maybe it’s good in other places.
I know this sounds ridiculous……..and redundant……….and obvious. BUT I AM SO SICK OF THIS REGISTRY!
We need a do as I say, not as I do registry for government officials for violating the same rules they put in place for us citizens. We also need an asshat registry for those that can’t mind their own business, think they are better than others, and cause harm due to their immoral views.
Those are the unhinged loons that need to be tracked, not someone who peed outside 30 years ago.
I was speaking to my therapist yesterday ( an amusing past time that I am slowly becoming bored with ). She insists that everything will get better. I keep asking her, “ How do you claim to know about the future when you don’t even know what will happen in the next 5 minutes”. Her answer is always,” You don’t want to miss out on possible happiness”
Well, I went through my life not really being happy. Barely being content. Then I met someone and my life suddenly had purpose. I felt like something had flipped and I was finally in a place I kept hearing and reading about. Then I lost that person. She reminded me throughout her ordeal that if we had even 5 minutes of happiness, then our meeting was worth the lives we had lived to that point.
Which brings me to my point. If I have had my moment of happiness, then why worry about what happens going forward. In fact why keep pounding through time only to have it end. I don’t need to look for happiness in my future, for I have already experienced that joy beyond anything I had hoped for to that point. I am neither worried about what path my life takes now, nor fearful of it ending without that feeling of happiness.
So keep passing laws that push me out. Keep making life harder for me even to take a step. I really don’t care. I have an option. I have been happy, and I don’t need to try anymore.
One wonders in all of this registry issue is the confusion, even about calling once a month to check in. Here in Virginia they want you to call in. I’m sure many at times fail to call on the day of the month specified. I even think I forgot this month but basically its to show responsiblity. We can all get a bit under pressure even with family life, some trying to find work or other issues on a persons life.
So what if a person forgets to call in to verify things are ok? Lets say a person calls in a day or two later than what. Guess that would be up to the probation officer. Now if anyone travels this holiday one can bet that Covid issues are not preventing police to watch for speeders as I have seem several doing the holidays here in VA.
I’m sort of like most on here that much to a lot of this registry is a bag of intimidation to try and abuse one’s conscious with this sexual ruse. One has to remember they are servants to protect and serve in all this pretending issue when it actually comes down to getting over on another to prevent one from talking to a teenage person when the facts come down they are the ones that are unjustified in this game of judgement call. Why do you think plea deal comes up in many of these types of sex issues. Look at this as over abuse of power. Life is not a pretend game. So right now I am a day or two short so a late call is better than a no call I hope. This has probably happened to some across the nation also so I’m sure I’m not the first.
This probably needs its own thread. Here we see that law enforcement has their sexual misdeeds swept under the carpet. They get to land on their feet. They get to remain private, but we average people in this nation, we get exposed, punished for a lifetime. So unjust. Sexual misconduct shakes FBI’s senior ranks: https://apnews.com/article/us-news-sexual-misconduct-a0d33e4770acef8ff5f4a48f0267202c
While I did call in today and left a message on their voice machine which I have done since Feb of this year its best to call as I’m sure we that are on probation during this pandermic ordeal tend to at times lose tract of time. Seems much of this ordeal is a punishment/responsiblity type of issue and those PO officers are only doing their job in all this ordeal stuation. Course probation and paroble doesn’t know what the person that is under this registry is going thru and the pressures many face. Its like a mind consuming game that can drive one bonkers at times if one lets it.