MI: Whitmer signs bill with long-awaited changes to sex offender law

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Tuesday signed a bill that would eliminate school safety zones and certain appearance requirements in Michigan’s Sex Offender Registration Act. Full ArticleFull Article

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Bobby S:
When we post a comment, we try to keep it brief. I was making a comment that in Michigan he can possess a firearm 3 years after he is off parole. In a brief comment it is to difficult to get into specified and unspecified offenses and were I to go into detail of the offenses and he had to pay his fines, etc., the point of the post would have been lost in the verbage. That’s why I referred to the M.C.L. I posted the M.C.L. as an afterthought to my previous post. Fed up took this afterthought to be a reply to your post because it is posted after your post when we both had posts waiting for moderation. My answer to your question is addressed to you in the following post.

not to be rude but guns are the least of my worries I can care less my main focus is this registry how its gonna affect us with 3 days to register now and all the other bs the state is pulling I know certain counties are making you register threw the pandemic and if you fail to register there locking you up and i wanna to know is this unlawful bill is gonna go back to court since nothing was changed also all 44000 pluss registrant dont know about this web site or know whats going on with these laws were I had to dig and find these sites to learn what’s going on myself wish they would send letters out to registrant so they can be more involved this is my opinion I just don’t think the state is gonna let us go registry was design for 3 purposes to make money and throw you back in prison or publicly humiliate you for the rest of your life

The 3 days is to report any changes, ie address, employment whatever and it is 3 business days. I don’t think they changed anything in regards to the verification itself.

With a 2016 conviction, this new law provides me relief as I can attend my youngest school functions now, well in March but with her graduating in May I have missed everything meaningful at this point. It probably means a job or 2 someday in my life might be available in the old safety zone or the off chance a rental will accept me. The law also makes my reporting requirements stricter unless by some stroke of luck the MSP sets up a way to do reporting online. The HYTA changes are exactly what a young person needs to change their life for the best and this will have a huge impact in their families. Unfortunately a set aside and HYTA is not an option for me.

Do the pending Does cases have any impact on me? Looking for some hope here

So I was convicted of CSC 4th degree in 2001, completed hyta, had record “expunged”… still had to register for the last 20 years. I know this bill isn’t what everyone hoped for, it does finally give me some hope.. so I can’t help but be excited for it. That being said, does anyone have any idea when hyta offenders will be removed? I check everyday, and am disappointed everyday to see my name still on there. I feel like I can almost start living like a normal person again.

To Patience in Michigan. Michigan ACLU says March 24th, and we should get a letter from MSP by then

@Same boat… you have stated that the Michigan ACLU says March 24th…what are you talking about? I have not heard anything about the 24th of March as related the Michigan SORA. Please explain what you mean and the source of your information. Thank you. Peace be with you all.

@Josh…thank you Josh for the information. I don’t believe we will receive “the letter” from the MSP, because that comes after Judge Cleland lifts his temporary injunction against the State, after he declares that the “covid-19 emergency” is over, in relation to our class action suit. And the judge still has to make his determination as to whether the State has fulfilled his requirements as to the constitutionality of the new State SORA law. Peace be with all of you.

When I spoke of Judge Cleland making his determination as to the constitutionality of the new State SORA law, I mean, if, in his mind, HB 5679 has met all the constitutional issues that he told the State to remedy through legislation. We will see. If my legal logic needs correcting, please feel free to do so. I try to be open to learning. Peace be with all of you.

@BM…thank you for clarifying. Peace be with all of you.

@everyone. Just wondering if anyone else received a email from Tim at the Michigan ACLU, and what he had to say about what is going on so far. I would like to get your thoughts on what he told us all. Personally it sounds like more of the same, just more runaround. HB 5679, goes in effect March 24 , but I don’t think it should apply to those of us, that are pre- 2006 and 2011. The courts have spoken, the Michigan Legislature and Whitmer meds to be held accountable for their actions concerning this unconstitutional Bill.

Here is something in regards to the Paul Betts case.

http://publicdocs.courts.mi.gov/SCT/PUBLIC/ORDERS/148981_87_01.pdf

So, ex post facto and due process have no footing in the constitution as far as the legislature’s judiciary committee is concerned.

Does this hb 5679 have to get in front of judge Cleland before the state police send letters?

Thanks josh,

Interim Order Summary April 6, 2020. The Court previously ordered that SORA is invalid for pre-2011 registrants

I copied that off from Aclu Michigan sora, web page and I just wondered

5-10-93……30 days county, 4 yrs probation, no contact sense other than sora

Thanks Bobby,
Any idea how many pre-95 people are affected ?

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THIS WILL get somewhere! I’LL keep you posted!

Hello everyone, I was in the hospital from Jan 26th until Super Bowl Sunday, I had to have major surgery. So my question is has anyone heard anything on the case lately?, or are we still in a stale mate, with no movement as of now. Thanks in advance, for any news or updates.

Has anyone heard anything about what was said during the status conference on the 16th? I emailed Tim, but haven’t heard anything back from him. I’m really hoping that Judge Cleland gets pissed that they didnt make ALL of the changes that he ordered, and just removes all of us Pre-2011.

Finally heard back from Tim. Here is his response.

The conference call we had with the Court was basically just to figure out the briefing schedule for when the government will respond to our motion for final judgment.

Respectfully Tim P ACLU of Michigan SOR Specialist

Hey everyone so this whole mess has really made me really focus on my life I am building a race car I have 2 sponsorships all ready. What do you guys think I should do when the law changes in march because im worried I may loss them? What should I do? I know this sounds stupid. I am getting my car finished right now with the roll cage. I’m trying to give my kids and wife a good life. What should I do.

I am one of the ones supposedly coming off, but although I should be excited, I can’t really go anywhere other than Michigan when it comes to moving. I wanted to go to New York, Hawaii, and even California to live. While I may be off Michigan’s Registry, I still can’t be free if I want to move. That was my goal. But do to stupid SORNA- which makes you report your whereabouts, I can’t move out of state without having to register all over again in that new State…..if they make you…..which they ALL do. They have that stupid saying in their law “if you EVER had to register”…..blah blah

I wouldn’t have to tell Michigan where I’m going (obviously any longer) but only the new State if i move there. ..know you may feel differently, but its pretty much just stuck living in Michigan, to AVOID being on another states registry. I keep asking myself “how would they know if i entered there state, unless i got pulled over)….but that’s a slippery slope that I’m not willing to take.

Even traveling internationally, it really makes no difference. SORNA needs to be defeated

@All… I should have checked my facts before posting but I looked up the states that have largely implemented SORNA and there are only 18 states according to the “SMART” webpage.

Well,I guess come April 1st we all get to see who the joke will be on….. sadly

Are pre 2004 Hyta off the register now?