This post is intended as a place for discussions about Domestic Travel ONLY.
Please help us by sticking to the topic of Domestic Travel only.
Scroll down this page to make a comment in the form.
====
Links:
A2TwoZee domestic travel blog
To see the “State & Territorial Visitor Registration Laws Guide” chart, scroll down to that section and click on the “HERE” link.
To see the map of states, click on the “HERE” link to the right of “Summary Map”.
Domestic travel information (Probation Information Network)
Hi,
Can anyone please help clarify what the following Wyoming visitor law means?
“Visitors must register within 3 business days.
§7-19-302(c)(iv).”
I can’t determine if this means there is a 3 day grace period when visiting or no grace period at all and registration is required no matter how long of stay within 3 days:
Note that I’ve already tried reaching out to Wyoming SO registry at 307-777-7181 and left a VM to be contacted back for clarification, but I don’t expect a callback.
https://a2twozee.blogspot.com/?m=0
Also note that I’m planning a roadtrip with my family soon and currently using the latest AtoZ laws guide and I’m planning my trip based on the visitor day limit requirements for the following states, Wyoming seems to be the only one that seems confusing based on the wording. If there are any other gotchas that aren’t obvious in the guide, please let us know!
California (start)
Oregon
Washington
Montana
Wyoming
Utah
Arizona
California (end)
Thanks in advance for your help!
Has anybody been to Utah? I just got offered a freelance gig out there that’ll span 4 days, so probably need a total of 6 days max in the state before returning to California.
I see on both links listed above that Utah requires registration “if present for 10 days or more in a 12 month calendar year” so theoretically I’m fine for being there for 6 days and not registering right? Has anybody tried that?
misdemeanor, tier 1, possession, not on probation or parole.
Can someone please point me to where in Federal SORA it talks about needing to register in a state you are visiting if there for 7 days? I recall reading on this forum something about that.
My son is going to PA and will notify our home state of IL within three days of leaving of his plans. PA has a very generous visitation program; he will be in PA 7 days (including the day of arrival and day leaving), so we are comfortable with the PA statute and not having to register there. However, I thought someone said SORA requires registration in another state if you are there 7 days. Or is it over 7 days? I can’t find it in the Federal SORA site. Any direction greatly appreciated. Thank you.
For Atwo Zee: Hi AZ — I am trying to gain clarity on Washington State where you added the following update: “A person who is NO LONGER required to register in their conviction state reports moving to WA in 2024 with WA’s written agreement they are NOT required to register there.”
While one reading of this seems to imply that those off the registry could move to WA without having to register all over again, I am trying to understand whether this written agreement was policy or a one-off? One guy got in writing that he did not have to register upon going there. But was this a letter he had to obtain only through negotiating with the State to get it? Or does the letter imply that it is WA policy that someone not on the registry does not have to re-register there upon moving to WA?
I have family in WA and am off the CA registry with 1203.4 misdemeanor expungement. So I am assessing whether WA might be a possibility to move to after CA. Do you happen to know this guy or anything else about his case? Do you think each person would have to get a lawyer and negotiate with WA to get a letter like his? Or can we assume what applies to him would apply to us?
Thanks so much.
Hi I am a person forced to register (PFR) in MN and currently living for 10 years. Can you please help below questions.
After I am off the registry which states I can move and not needed to register. Mine is Gross Misdemeanor. Are there any states are lenient not need to register if I move with in 10 years.
Also If I want to travel out of state do I need to inform local registry office or police that i am traveling out of state every time I travel with in United States.
Hello. Considering travel to New Mexico.
Kindly poke on my assumptions below:
From A2Zs blog and reading the NM statutes, it is my understanding that I have 4 “business” days without triggering registration. I am assuming WEs are not counted.
So if I fly-in Thursday night and leave Monday afternoon I am still “safe” because I will only be there 3 business days (Thu-Fri & Mon). Or is after hours already considered non-business day?
Also when flying, for the sake of “registration times” – when are you technically in the destination state? Once you cross the state border or when you land?
TIA
i am curious would flying to Puerto Rico for a long weekend, but the information online is very vague for visitors.
does anyone have any additional info?
I am wondering if I understand Colorado’s time requirements for registration for visitors. I would like to vacation in CO for 9 days Friday to the following Saturday. As I understand the law, I would not be considered a temporary resident because I would be there less than 14 days. However it appears I would have to register within 5 business days of arriving in CO, even though I would not become a resident. So I would need to leave before the 5th business day to not trigger a registration requirement.
I am no longer required to register in my home state of IL.
Travel To Florida: I am a Person Forced to Register (PFR) in MN and currently on probation. My PO officer likely to give permission to travel to Florida. What are the restrictions. Do I need to local police in Florida and how long I can stay. Anyone has experience traveling.
I’m asking for a friend who lives in Utah and doesn’t understand if something is actually a requirement. He just went to the local PD to update his registration and during conversation they told him that if he travels out of state for more than 3 days he has to notify his registration office. I looked online for a while and I couldn’t find anything stating that. Does anyone know if this is an actual requirement written in the law? Can the local PD where you register just create a new requirement and if so, is that binding or just something they want but can’t enforce? He is in SLC somewhere but I don’t know which PD he registers at. Thanks for any clarification
We are traveling to CA this week and very excited to visit your beautiful state. I read AtwoZee’s travel chart and also read CA statute 290.011 so I believe we are safe not to register because we will be in CA less than 5 working days (arrive Thursday, leave Monday).
I wanted to double check presence restrictions because IL is the most restrictive. He is off paper completely, no more probation or supervision. However, his conviction for possession involved a minor <14. Everything I research indicates we can go to the beach and public parks because he is off paper and there is no mandated court order otherwise. If anyone can confirm to give me comfort, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
I want to fly from California to West Palm Beach airports later this year. What is required for Tier 3 Person Forced to Register (PFR)? My sister lives in Port St. Lucie.
I have a question about Hawaii. If I were to spend the winter there and return to my home state in the spring, will Hawaii remove me from their registry? Or would it turn into a Floriduh situation where my name is listed on their rolls forever? Maybe Atwo Zee or someone familiar with Hawaii would know.
I am putting this out here for feedback to ensure I am understanding. I am scheduled to be off the registry @ 7 months and anticipate doing more domestic travel. I want to avoid being put on any other state’s registry. I want to determine how long I can visit various states. I am thinking the easiest approach is to know which states I could relocate to and reside without having to register, meaning those states I can visit for unlimited time, and all other states that would require for me to register, I would need to pretend I am still on the registry and do not overstay the number of days of visiting that a person already on the registry must follow. It will be easier to travel overseas.
This means for the vast majority of states, I have to live like I am still on the registry. Being on the registry never goes away even once off the registry. And I understand the Atwozee blog would be a good place for a starting point to obtain this information and then read the statutes to see if I come to the same conclusion and to see if there are any statute updates to what is on the blog. Thanks.
It just occurred to me, that as a person to register, and even once no longer a person forced to register, it is difficult to hike any long overnight hikes as one will almost always stay too long inside a state, meaning required to register in that state. And one should not just go anyway – what happens if there is an emergency, LE will then know I was once registered, and then I have a ftr charge in the state I am hiking.
I am thinking that once I am off the registry, I need to limit long overnight hikes to states that will not put me back on the registry if I stay too long.
Just heard on a nomadic You Tube channel one can get a felony for sleeping more than 3 hrs at a rest area in Tennessee.
Atwo Zee, please update and clarify your blog article pertaining to the international peace garden park.
I do understand that one does not need a passport to visit. I understand that you do not have to go through Canadian Customs. I do understand that when you leave the park you have to go through US Customs.
But I do not remember seeing any mention of the IML 21 day notice. To enter the park and to pay the admission fee, one must cross into Canada because the admission booth where you pay is on the Canadian side. The IML requires the notice if traveling outside the US.
This is an update to my question about former PFRs registration obligations in Washington State. A specialist from the Sheriff’s office registry unit responded to my letter of inquiry. My CA registrable conviction for 311.11a (M) was vacated per 1203.4, and because of that, I will not have to register in WA State were I to move there. Their assessment was based on the conviction status and not the successful 290.5 petition. So had I not been granted the 1203.4, it sounds like I would have had to register there even though I was a former PFR. It’s heartening that the 1203.4 was recognized in WA, but I realize that it is not an option for everyone. I will say that I continue to lament at the injustice prevalent in so many states whereby former PFRs are being required to register all over again if they moved there.
I know the limited resources of ACSOL and other organizations are best directed at taking down the registry and helping current PFRs. I do hope that the PFR/FPFR community will someday soon also tackle the insane injustice that former PFRs face when they are emancipated from the chains of the registry. Going back onto other state registries just because we visit or move to them is truly unjust. It’s another front in the war we must wage battle on to end the madness of these registries.
Has anyone, being on the registry, went recently to disney land in Anaheim without having trouble going in? Just asking because I have a family member that works there and said they recently have facial recognition system and if your face or info pop up they red flag you and get turned away.
If visiting IL and if you want to read the rules, read “2024 Illinois Compiled Statutes Chapter 730 – CORRECTIONS 730 ILCS 150” as well as other chapters referenced on Atwozee’s travel blog. It appears that if visiting IL whether currently on or off the registry, you should follow all rules disclosed on Atwozee’s travel blog because if caught violating any rules, you could be placed on the IL registry [and/or sent to prison].
But there appears to be an exception to not having to comply with any rules if visiting if 1) you are not currently on any registry, 2) your offense is listed under the definition of sex offense found in Sec 2(B), 3) your state did not deem you to be a Sexually Dangerous Person, a Sexually Violent Person or a Sexual Predator, and 4) you registered for a period of 10 years after conviction or adjudication if not confined to a penal institution, hospital or any other institution or facility, and if you were confined, for a period of 10 years after parole, discharge or release from any such facility.[Moderator warning: Illinois law separates the restrictions and prohibited locations and rules from the requirements to register. The restrictions (located in other laws) are tied to if the person has ever been convicted of a sex offense in any state or other place, not dependent on if they are or have been required to register.]
Do not rely upon my opinion as I am not an attorney – do your own research.
I just wanted to point out there possibly appears to be a situation where one can visit IL and not have to comply with any IL SO rules.Atwo zee gave some good advice if visiting Chicago and you prefer to stay outside the state because the numbers of days you can visit IL without having to register is short. Atwo zee stated you can stay in Hammond, IN, just across the IL state line and still be in the Chicago metro area. I want to share additional information in case anyone may be able to use, especially if traveling into Chicago by plane, rail or bus and not renting a vehicle once in Chicago.
South Shore Line (Rail) has a few stations located within IL in the Chicago area and goes all the way to the airport in South Bend, IN, where there is a Amtrak station and a local bus system. The first station across the state line is the Hammond (Indiana) Gateway station. I found one hotel within 1 to 1.25 miles northeast of the station where one can walk or get an Uber/Lyft.
Another option, though is a longer train ride, maybe 1.75 hr or so if I correctly remember, is the Metra rail system. The Metra Union Pacific North line (dark green line) starts not too far from Union Station, has many stops heading north, some of the way is just off the lake and the line terminates in Kenosha, WI, the only station not located in IL. I found three hotels within .5 to 1 mile east and northeast of the station where one can walk or get an Uber/Lyft. Do not stay more than three nights in Kenosha or you will be required to register per the city ordinance. (Read the ordinance and do not rely upon my statement.)
If any locals have any additional advice on this topic, it is appreciated.
I want to attend a week long convention in Vegas, but not too keen on registering as NV has a 24-hour check in requirement.
Can anyone speak to the registration experience? Would it be kosher to touch home base every night and sleep on the CA side of the border?
TIA!
Chicago LE does not give out info regarding location of parks and trails (or any other child safety zones) based upon my personal experience and based upon statements from Athena. who lives in the Chicago area. But I did locate a city website with a map of public parks and public trails.
http://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com
Do a search for “trails”. When the results appear, click on “Paths & Trails”. Scroll down and click on map view. Click on the park tab at the home page, click on “Park Finder”. Scroll down and click on map view. Note that the Art Institute of Chicago is not considered by the city to be located on park property. Per the city, the Millenium rail station is considered to be on park property but the Van Buren St rail station is NOT located on park property. Do not go by Google Maps from a private company, but go by what the City of Chicago “government” says is a public park and public trail.
For those traveling to or living in Chicago and if required to comply with the public park restriction (which includes bikeways) and/or school restrictions, one can find the Chicago bikeways and public schools on the following website. http://www.cps.edu
At the home page click on “Schools” then click on “School Locator Map”. Click on the overlay button, the blue button with white horizontal stripes located in the upper right hand corner, and click on bike paths, or if interested in the schools, click on the appropriate school radio buttons.
I already reported in Nov 2025 how to locate the Chicago public parks. See Domestic travel 2025.
During out-processing of the registry (aka removal from), is there a checklist of things you must know once off the registry and does the removal agency (state or otherwise) inform you of it to include being wise to other state’s registry laws (akin to initialing and signing off on the paperwork with the laws during the registry visit)?
While not knowing the law is not a defense, if you are not wise to the laws as they pertain because you are not informed of them, then being held accountable is hard to be had in a court, IMO, e.g., restricted area boundaries without a map to show them in place and signs denoting the physical boundaries.
Would be interested in hearing from those who have been removed and their experiences with this for others facing removal to temper expectations.