CA: 2020 Ballot Initiative to Repeal Justice Reform Would Come at a High Cost

A new report from the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice (CJCJ) analyzes a November 2020 ballot measure that seeks to roll back key elements of recent justice reforms, including Public Safety Realignment, Prop 47, and Prop 57. As California continues to disproportionately arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate Black, Indigenous, and Latino people, this proposal will particularly harm communities of color. Full Article

Report – CJCJ – June 2020

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Given the current climate, this bill seems less likely to pass. But what’s probably really going to kill it is that price tag.

Opponents of this bill need to highlight that none of these people are getting out automatically. They just have a chance to go up before the parole board who’ll have the final say. This bill would remove their ability to consider the person regardless of what the actual crime was and the persons effort to rehab themselves.

@ Russ, SR, USA and many of you guys its obvious that many need to stand up speak out in public and address this and I’m sure all races would benefit. Do we all do stink’n think’n? Sure we do, or do two wrongs always make a right. Should we all examine this. Sure I myself have two more years left to go on my probation but from hearing some of the view’s on here and many other issues that government seems to paint something isn’t right or whats black and white today in this color blind world.

Look at this pandermic here today. Is that right or can anyone honestly tell why its here or would they have to use some high teck computer to feed in the information and come out with an educated guess. I even thought computers were either garbage in or garbage out or are kids today learning their ABC’s from computer science. Growing up I loved the Jefferson’s, Standford and Son’s many of those sit-coms even Gomor pyle and Sargent Carter or night court. Sure Gomer had a beautiful voice but who knew his other life. While that is another matter the registry is the real matter.

Has the registry done any good for me, you, or anyone else. Guess its how you look at it but in all it hasn’t did anyone any good. Tell me is the registry more of a burden on you or the family members in yoru family. I don’t have any mom and dad and only a sister here.The others are in other states. Sure I have some black friends and some white and yes respect goes a long ways. In other words we are all Gods’ children. Today I doubt if people get involved in many things without a reason, Some people join the Elks Clubs and other organizations for a reason. Course I never heard of the Water Buffalo Lodge but I’m sure there are a lot of side steps in life. Does this registry test the spirits or try ones carnal nature?

Even Satan can be a Christian with false promises or who is holding a choke hold on you or me or anyone on here. Sure I’ve gone thru this since 2012 and many of you all even longer. My dad always use to say to me “Strike while the anvil is hot” and if women are steping up for the offender than that’s a plus, but do women feel the emotions like a man does in a biblical way with this transgression. I’m sure its time to say”STOP INTERNET SEX OFFENDER LAWS”.
Sure women have their own character faults just the same as others but who doesn’t have character faults today. All I’m saying is this sex offender is keeping many in slavery thats all. Authorities can be so unjust many times wtthout understand their own selves.

California has a lot of problems due too its single party majority making it easy to pass a lot of bad legislation. This election is a big problem as well as Biden is really only setting the country up for his VP pick and if current conditions are any indicator of who that might be…well then the country is in grave danger.

Already with what’s happened in the last 20 years it’s been increasingly difficult to defend sex offense cases and that’s only going to get worse. Much of California’s bad legislation has already spread to other states including the anti-self defense Marsy’s Law. So you’re looking at a time where possibly public defenders will be a thing of the past. Which is terrible given that the system was built to be predatory against the accused. Many people who don’t understand law or what’s happening to them will get railroaded including innocent people, while the district attorneys and police get to manipulate the system to their gain.

All this gets worse if the current “racial justice” media fodder keeps people distracted and they vote Democrat.

@SR I agree with most what you said but like the fella said, something else must have been going on if someone spent years in a California prison only for having cp on their computer, especially when they’re letting non violent offenders out because of the court order against prison overcrowding in the state. I always tell my story on this forum about commiting my one and only crimminal offense in 50 years, and that was having a handful deleted cp videos on my computer, no file sharing or googling child pornography was involved, yet I got hit with a mandatory minimum 3 year prison sentence. That never would have happened if I was living in California, no matter how bad of a day the DA was having. The fact that cp possession even a misdemeanor 5 years ago shows that California is more lenient than other states where its always (except Iowa) a felony. I’ve been coming to this forum for nearly two years hearing California people talk about their child pornography possession convictions, but I rarely heard prison or even jail mentioned until today after someone said imprisonment doesn’t happen for first timers, which is interesting.

@Jax

You have not taken into account the CP Federal cases that takes place in CA. I’ve had no priors before this case. I’ve met and known many people from CA doing time for CP. I know one that’s doing 20 years for the same charges and he had no priors.

Your info is incomplete.

@ Jax

Fair enough, I can see that other states are more strict than CA. But it’s definitely not perfect and furthermore there are opportunistic politicians sneaking a few bad laws for every one good law. It’s not that CA learned their lessons but that they’re creative. They’ll make just enough concessions so that the bulk of their system stays in tact. Any opposition to that system is always met with “buh buh buh support victims”. The old cloak and dagger since to be pro-victim is to be anti-offender.