This is basically a check in on my most recent visit to the Sheriffs office to do my annual registration. One thing that surprised me was I was able to register for my annual registration 26 days before my birthday. I knew they required an appointment to register, so I called on September 1st, and much to my surprise the told me to come in the next day at 10AM. The Detective told me this counts for annual registration. Another thing they told me after asking about any short travel out of state, like 3 days, they said I am required to check out with them regardless of the amount of time I would be away. That sort of surprised me as well. Basically I feel like I am a prisoner in my own home or at least in my own state. I really wish we could get this freedom of travel fixed. For me I grew up with the famous saying of Give me liberty or Give me Death school of thought. The other thing that was different is, I had to give them a name address and phone number of my next closest relative. Just posting this, it’s been weighing on my mind.
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Maybe 5 days is 5 days, before or after birthday.
https://scocal.stanford.edu/opinion/people-v-carmony-33440
Carmony failed to register with the Redding Police Department within five days of his birthday—October 22, 1999—even though he had registered on September 16 and again on September 23 in order to notify the police of his new address.
Got 26 years to life under 3 strikes!
Long Beach police department had me initial by my address and phone number for the first time I’m not stupid I know why they wanted my phone number, so they can track and monitor phone with their new STINGRAY technology, and by signing my initials by my phone number if I gave them the wrong number they could say I lied to law enforcement which is a crime and could probably turn it into a FTR charge.
The last compliance check I had 5 years ago they just asked for my phone number and left immediately after obtaining it like they we’re in a hurry to go check out what was on my phone something.
I know for a fact the District Attorney’s office uses that annual registration paperwork with our initials on to prove in A court of law we willingly and knowingly FTR in the state of California.
As far a leaving the state of California there ain’t no where on the annual registration forms that I initialed next to that says anything about haveing to notify Long Beach police if I plan on go to see my mom in Denver,
But to be safe I never stay gone longer then 5 working days just incase the SAFE taskforce shows up at my door knocking and after 5 working days surveilling my home with no contact they’ll put A warrant out for my arrest for FTR
Good luck
State Law specifies “within 5 days of one’s birthday”. State Law exists for public safety, and public safety alone. How is it that these police departments get to violate state law, which exists for public safety, as they see fit? Who knows what other rules they are bending. This is beyond upsetting……
What County was this in?
Just moved into San Bernardino county and checked in and was given a temporary mini card to carry around. Permanent will be mailed. Never got that from LAPD.
No tier letter was offered until I asked. They gave me my tier letter and expected tier 1. But had to ask. 10 years on and will petition next year on my birthday.
This is a recipe for disaster. The law reads a certain way. You must comply with the wording of the law, not an officer’s interpretation.
I don’t live in CA and I’m too busy/lazy to learn CA’s laws, however I would bet piles of $$$ that this sheriff’s office is breaking the law. In the state where I live I have yet to see a sheriff’s office that does not break the law. It is expected. They are called law enforcement criminals (LECs) for a reason.
If the law says “x days before your birthday” (and/or after, whatever), then that is what the law is. Does anyone have the authority to move that around as they like? If I decide I don’t like the “x days” part (e.g. perhaps I’d like to travel on my birthday), do I have the option to change the law around as I like? How much slack do you think the LECs are going to give me for that? So I think they deserve the same slack. Less, even.
They are the criminals who created these “laws”. Are the laws important or not? The least they can do is be competent enough to follow them. I’m really not interested in their excuses about why they can’t. They have far more resources than they should have. They have no excuse. Perhaps they will have to put some effort into it just like every PFR, their spouses, and their children must all of the time. Where I live I have 3 days. F that! To me, that proved just what a bunch of scumbag aholes they are. They could allow say 2 weeks around whatever events and that would not affect public safety AT ALL, not in any imaginable way, even idiotic. But no, they say 3 days. So, F them every day. All year.
You said, “I am required to check out with them regardless of the amount of time I would be away”. That is unacceptable. I would force them to put their beliefs/stance in writing and if they were wrong, I’d get an attorney involved and take it as far as necessary to correct them. I have had to do that numerous times, but it has not been very hard. I find out what I think the law is, write them and tell them, and ask what their position is. I copy in their attorneys and the people who control their budget. They have always responded. I’ve always been able to get a concrete resolution that I think was correct. Your results may vary.
Quick rant about that “notifying of travel” BS too. The criminals could do a lot of things to make the Oppression Lists (OLs) more intelligent and acceptable. I’m not on probation or parole and haven’t been forever. It is not acceptable to ever tell them when I am traveling. It could probably be acceptable if they set the timeframe at like 2 consecutive weeks or something like that. Anything less than that, then they’ll have to continue suffering consequences for their harassment. They don’t care, of course. The OLs have nothing to do with public safety.
You said, “I had to give them a …”. Did you have to? Or did they just ask and you did it? Where I live, they ALWAYS operate outside of the law and ask for more information than is required by law. Always. They’ve fixed that a couple/few times, briefly. But they always recidivate back to breaking the law. They are criminals, of course. Personally, I only answer what is explicitly required by law. I also write something on it like, “I think I have provided all of the information that is required by law but if I have missed something, please inform me and I will provide it.” The only issue I’ve had with that is some LECs will cry about it. That’s it.
I do find it hilarious that they brag and think they are brilliant that they force PFRs to initial every item of information on Registration forms (on pages and pages) because they think that “proves” that a PFR knows that item is something that is “required” of them and so if they do not follow that in the future, it will help convict the PFR of a felony. They brag about that like middle school children. So dumb. But the problem for them is that there is a pile of stuff on the forms that is actually not the law, lol! The only thing that a PFR knows is that the forms are inaccurate and that they do not reflect the law. Pretty much the opposite of what the criminals think it “proves”.
The OLs are a simple idea that any moderately successful company could easily administer. It takes big government’s special skills to F them up as much as they are.