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First time posting.
I want to thank Janice for the advice she gave here. I had a compliance check this week and the person doing it wanted to enter my residence.
This is something that has never happened in the 12+ years since being off probation.
Had I not read this thread, I likely would have not known my rights and let them enter.
Since I had read this, I was prepared.
When the person asked to come in, I politely said I was not on probation and in the 12+ years since being off probation nobody has ever entered my home for a compliance check.
Some people here are saying that just agitates them and puts you on their “troublesome” list.
That may be true, in some cases.
But it also may be true that they see you are someone who knows your rights and someone who is not afraid to exercise them and that intimidates THEM.
Maybe they think, “I’m not going to mess with this one, they seem to be smart and know the law”.
But really, what THEY think is irrelevant.
What I think is what matters, and I feel empowered.
I feel empowered that I actually still have some rights in my own home and that I stood up for my rights and I won.
The person didn’t enter.
They couldn’t enter.
I feel like my home is still a place I can have some dignity and some rights as a citizen of this country despite a political agenda trying to take it all away.
We must stand up for ourselves.
It may be small, but I feel so much better for actually being able to say NO to something THEY want to do, and THEY had to obey ME.
It’s a very small start, not a finish.
Thanks to Janice and everyone.
Cops came to my house Friday morning looking for me for a compliance check. Been off parole for 3 years always register on time even updated when I bought my wife a new car. I was at work when they came. They said for me to call the police station when I got home. When I called they asked if I got a letter. I said no then I was put on hold. Then he comes back and tells me if I want to find out what it’s about to call a detective Monday through Thursday. WTF? Been paranoid all weekend. So has my wife since I am the sole provider in the house. If I go to prison it’s over for her and everything we own is gone. But I haven’t done anything wrong. Just freaked. The neighbor next door told me the police blocked the street and surrounded my house. How humiliating! And it took so long to finally find a place to live where I don’t get embarrassed by the neighbors… was homeless for over a year because either parole forced me to move or the police did. Here we go again.
Azusa
I have a secure fence around my property and I love it. But the Sheriff does not like it as he cannot get to my front door. So today I was at my post office and as I was re-entering my car, a unmarked and plain clothes Sheriff pulled behind my car and blocked my exit. He complained he could not contact me at home and wanted to verify my address every 6 months. I told him that if he called me I would step out and wave to him in the future. It all made me very nervous.
I am waiting for something like this to happen to me since they still have not come back or tried to contact me. Did that sheriff agree to call you for you to just step out? This stuff really freaks me out since in the years I have been back in society this has never happened. Is this a new thing they do to try to run rso’s out of the city? What can be done to stop this harassment? What is the purpose of bringing the whole police force to my front yard for a “compliance” check? I just did my annual update 33days ago. I have lived in this city for almost 6 years and never had this happen before
Tattooarms,
Home compliance checks are a “legal” form of police harassment in my opinion. In my 11 years as a member of the elite registered citizenry, I’ve only had two. One involved 7 officers and FBI wearing swat gear and their giant letters on their backs, right at 5:30 pm when everyone is getting home from work. Nothing more than a farce of force, but I wasn’t home! My good neighbor told me about it and I called the cop in charge the next day and chewed her butt good. I had another one late one night, just two officers wanting to verify, I stuck my head out the door to show my face and that was it.
Government grants to law enforcement usually spike the compliance checks as do sexual re-offenses by others that make the news. The police have to appear like they’re on top of things, but we know it’s an appearance only to cover for their ineptitude and laziness.
Wow. The worst part is that it affects my wife and family as well. Sometimes I feel like I don’t deserve anything good to happen for me but since I am fortunate enough to have a loving wife and family, these things are just not right as it is upsetting good people who had nothing to do with. My offense
I am curious about the responses here: was the commenter on probation or parole? Were they on the public registry or not? (Many registrants are not on the public registry in California). I am also curious (though I doubt any of us know) whether these were special sweeps or routine. It seems some agencies do them, while others do not, or only do them intermittently.
I have run the whole gamut of these Compliance checks here in Santa Ana. Misdemeanor 290 in 1995 expunged in 2006. I am not on the Public Registry. They started about 2007 and stopped in 2011. I have not had any since. But, I can tell you I had all the worst of the SAPD. The horror stories about annual registration at the jail, for me, are all true. They came twice a year for the Compliance thing and it was about 50/50 (good cop/bad cop) what I was going to get. Now I will post a no trespassing/no soliciting sign and install a fake camera with a “you are being recorded” sign as well. I am very happy to gain a little knowledge.
This is not living.
I’m not sure if I am writing this in the right place, but I have to say something. I cannot do this. Live like this. This is not living. I’m forced to speak about the most intimate details of my life and every sexual experience I have ever had, things intimately private to me and my loved ones or I will be thrown back in prison, I honestly feel emotionally and physiologically raped by this, not to mention the polygraph and the emotional abuse that comes with trying to intimidate me. I’m a full time student going to college and I live in fear everyday that today will be the day that flyers will be all over campus when I get to school, something that has happened to a guy in my group, only the flyers were posted all around the town he worked in. I recently found out about compliance checks. I live in a quiet nice neighborhood and there is peace here, but once a compliance check happens I’ll have to leave because my entire neighborhood will be in an uproar. They don’t understand, all they see is police and assume the worst. Or if this compliance checks occurs at my college? I’ll have to quit school. I’ll not be able to return. No one will treat me right after an event like that. My family has no experience with the police and I now live with retired and disabled parents who I’m afraid will have a heart attack if the aggressive things I’m hearing occur. Another guy in my group had his wife handcuffed when he arrived at his hotel room. She had no record and did not even live there and was treated like that. I cannot allow my family to go through this. I honestly think about suicide daily not because of depression, I love life and have dreams, but because it seems like the only logical solution for my family. They will never abandon me, but I cannot watch them suffer anymore. I have an appointment to talk with Janice tomorrow, and if I don’t see some hope in legal actions I can take to protect them and myself I don’t see what other options I will have. I cannot let my parents, my kids, my family suffer like this, I won’t let it go that far, and I won’t dishonor them by running either. I have no choices that protect them or me, but dying. I love life I love people, but this is not life, this is not living. This is cruel and unusual punishment. I’m so tired of living in fear terrorized by the state of California. Can’t I sue for emotional and psychological abuse or something? Any advice is welcome. I don’t know what else to do. I’d lay my life on the line right now if it would make changes for registrants.
Everytime I hear an RSO tell his or her story, I have a nagging desire to compile it in a book. Don’t know why exactly, maybe in the hopes that someone will wake up and see those deemed least of their brethren are people, too.
I live with a family member on probation. this week them came and did a compliance search. does this give them the right to search my person or my belongs. I am not on probation and I was searched and arrested was this lawful of them to do?
Our house is lucky enough to get Compliance Checks in addition to Probation searches. 4 Cops for compliance checks and 9 Probation Officers all dressed in Swat Gear walking two blocks up to our upscale Town home, we myself my husband and our 4 kids live. As a result we have been asked to leave our place. Our landlord refused to renew our lease. 30 days before Christmas with two of the kids having Birthdays that fall on and two days after Christmas. I lost my job last April when my boss read an email to a friend of mine that talked about my husbands case. So far my husband has been a model probationer; no dirty UA’s never missed an appointment with PO graduated SO treatment and Alcohol Treatment. Last week they arrested him here at our home. He was asleep upstairs; had been for 2 hours. My friend walked in and was standing in our doorway her kids were outside. Probation walked up and flash incarcerated him because they said he was around kids. They literally had to drag him out of bed. There were 3 adults and my three teens standing with her kids while he was on a completely different floor and they arrested him. You see when they come here they are super pissed that this guy with this record; has a nice home; nice cars; nice family and is allowed to be around them and all of them are happy. They see that and boom they will find something to ruin that for us. He almost lost his job due to being arrested and then two days later our landlord terminated our lease.
Today I got a TEXT message from one of the officer.
He just said he was contacting me to see if I am around.
I reply
this is (my name)
and that was all he cared about and didn’t come over
Just had 7:18AM Saturday-morning compliance check, which ended up making my wife late for work.
I live in San Bernardino county and have completed 2-1/2 of 5-years of probation with no violations for a 2012 plea agreement to PC288A(b)(2) from 2009. The SMASH unit deputy confirmed my identity at the front door. I informed him that I was on probation, which is when the probation officer appeared and finally greeted me (this seemed like they were testing to see if I would volunteer that to a police office, one of my conditions).
All four officers came into the house and asked that my wife and I sit down. My mother-in-law (on oxygen with metastatic breast cancer) was already seated. I made sure to inform them of the oxygen since they all had fire arms.
While one of the PO’s went through our bedroom and my cell-phone (first time for that), one of the SMASH deputies went over the information they had on me from what seemed to be the Megan’s Law website, which was mostly incomplete, outdated or wrong. Last I heard, I’m not appearing on the public site in California. I answered questions to update/complete the information and was asked to sign off on it’s accuracy afterward. The SMASH deputy was polite enough, stated that I was in complete compliance, had me sign a paper to acknowledge the accuracy of the information and departed.
The PO who was running the home visit then took over. He went through my cell phone, my wife’s computers, the fridge, the garage, and our bedroom. The PO was not my regular, and therefor didn’t even have my file. He had to ask for my backstory, which was ridiculous. They stayed for about 20 additional minutes after the SMASH unit was finished. He asked me about my victim and where they live (another condition check) – I replied honestly that I had no idea where they live and that last I overheard from the DA two years ago that she was in college somewhere. He saw beer in the fridge and bourbon on the shelf and asked if I had alcohol conditions (another check), which I do not. Also asked about some corncob pipes in the garage – wanted to know what I smoke. I said tobacco, he asked if there was anything else I smoked (another check) to which I said no. He continued looking through my phone. Asked who my responsible parties are (my wife and mother-in-law).
I mentioned my probation experiences in NYC and how unobtrusive they were by comparison, to which they seemed surprised. In SB County, probation officers always wear full uniforms and are always armed and drive unmarked Dodge Chargers, Ford Explorers and occasionally a Crown Victoria (in NYC, my assigned PO was in street clothes and drove a Prius). The PO with my phone asked where my charges originated (again, completely unfamiliar with my case since he had no file), so I explained that I moved on an interstate transfer to NY and back to CA but that my charges originated in CA. I informed them that we moved back to CA to live with and help take care of my mother-in-law (cancer) and grandmother-in-law (dementia). He didn’t seem too familiar with the interstate transfer process nor with SO cases. This was by far the most thorough probation check I’ve experienced since the first one.
I hope it has been worth their time as they continue to waste state and federal funds to unnecessarily enforce ineffective laws. Maybe even some double-time pay?
I feel horrible for putting my family through all of this. I guess I’m at least thankful we don’t have kids – we’ve decided it’s best to not bring anyone else into this situation for the time being.
At least they didn’t toss our place up.
Is it beer:30 yet?
Had my first compliance check today.
I was released from custody in late December. I am on summary probation for a misdemeanor 647.6. Two officers rang the bell, and had my Megan’s List profile in hand. They asked my name and kindly announced they were here for a compliance check. That was it. They said thank you and left. Am I the only one with a positive experience?
What exactly are the rights of someone on supervised release in terms of compliance checks?
Does someone on supervision have to let law enforcement in if they wish to do a compliance check? I ask because people have provided different information about requirements. Some say a compliance check is all about verifying registration details such as proof of residence, but others say a check goes beyond to include verification that someone on supervision is in compliance with their terms and conditions.
Can someone locate in the California penal code and federal statutes where compliance checks are authorized?
My bad, I didn’t read every post above.
It seems to me that compliance checks are unreasonable searches because the compliance check fails to show probable cause that you are not in compliance. Under this presumption it seems an injunction or restraining order could be requested that the DOJ cease and desist from unreasonable invasions of privacy under the guise of conducting compliance checks.
I have a question. I was visited this morning at 5:30 AM by 3 police officers who advised me that they were conducting a compliance check. I asked them why in the hell were they conducting compliance checks at a time when they couldn’t even serve a search warrant unless there was a night endorsement signed by a judge? I was told they can conduct compliance checks at any time, day or night.
They then advised me that they wanted to come in and look around my place, and they advised me that I had to let them because I was on probation. I told them to get the f–k off my property, I am on probation but the judge failed to impose a search condition when I was sentenced, and I am on Federal probation. Local Officers cannot even enforce my terms and conditions of probation.
I really want to file a complaint about this. It seems totally unreasonable.
Well I always being a bit “hositle” towards the officers when they checking up on my brother.Every since I heard about vigilante had killed a low-tiered registrant.I am afraid someone pretending to be officer and going in and trying to kill my brother just because he’s a registrant .
I started dating a guy 17 months ago. He recently told me he had a Federal PC290 conviction. Long story but he was in possession of 3 short videos on his PC (compliments of an adult step-child). He did 28 months. We both live in Orange County but different cities. Since he sometimes spends the night at my home his P.O. said he was required to go to the city I live in and register my address as a second address. He was told it was just a “paperwork” formality. When he got to the Police Dept. in my city they treated him like he was first time registering. They were so clueless as to how it worked and what they needed to do for a “secondary” address that they had to call the DOJ to find out what to do. They did another DNA swab, etc. I figured my address would end up on the “list” and it did (which is fine). Only the police show my address as a primary address now and his as a secondary. My question is “where are MY rights”? Shouldn’t there be something that tells me someone registered my address? What if my boyfriend hadn’t told me about his situation but had just registered my address? Doesn’t seem right. This is all new to me (and frankly, some of the craziest stuff I’ve ever heard of). So, now the question is…if they can’t find him at his home are they going to show up on my door step? I have an adult child living with me and was hoping not to tell her until I had absorbed the whole thing but now I will have to tell her just in case an army of police show up asking for him. I’m looking to educate myself. I’ve read the horror stories; but, I’m wondering if anyone has gone through a similar thing and can tell me what the outcome was?
Once an expungment happens, are compliance checks legal? My boyfriend had a previous conviction that was expunged and hasn’t been required to register anymore. The police showed up and opened the screen door (which was closed, but the front door was open) and saw legal medical cannabis. They told our roommate they were issuing a search warrant and that we all were detained while they executed the warrant. Now my boyfriend sits in jail because of this. My question is, isn’t what they did illegal therefore everything found fall under illegal search and seizure? I am 8 months pregnant with high risks and they are threatening to file charges against me. I only stayed there to be closer to my OB due to my complications. My boyfriends mother won’t allow me to speak to his attorney to push this. I feel that his attorney isn’t representing him the best way. I have zero control and don’t want any of this to affect my child. My boyfriend has been in jail for over 20 days with a bail amount of 500 grand just because of the issue from before that was expunged. I don’t know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you.
Are you sure he’s still not required to register? Expungement does not eliminate the requirement to register. He would need a certificate of rehabilitation for that…if he qualifies based on his particular crime, that is. The mere fact that a compliance check was being carried out on him, leads me to believe he’s still required to register.
Well i’m on probation and i haven’t done a thing wrong, yet the police showed up at my house when i wasn’t home? i’m worried to say the least. can they do that?
Brett.. If your on parole or probation the cops can be banging on your door and you have to let them in, based on the terms of your release.. Also you can get cops banging on your door after parole of probation, but you don’t have to let them ib