ACSOL’s Conference Calls

Conference Call Recordings Online
Dial-in number: 1-712-770-8055, Conference Code: 983459


Monthly Meetings | Recordings (3/20 Recording Uploaded)
Emotional Support Group Meetings

California

Many sex offenders killed in California prison

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Shortly after 2 a.m. on April 6, 2010, a guard at Salinas Valley State Prison noticed ____ ____’s cellmate trying to stuff something under a mattress. It was ____, blood trickling from his mouth and a cloth noose tied around his neck.

The convicted child molester died 10 days later without regaining consciousness, his death earning his cellmate a second life sentence. California state prisoners are killed at a rate that is double the national average — and sex offenders like ____ account for a disproportionate number of victims, according to an Associated Press analysis of corrections records. Full Article

We welcome a lively discussion with all view points - keeping in mind...  
  • Your submission will be reviewed by one of our volunteer moderators. Moderating decisions may be subjective.
  • Please keep the tone of your comment civil and courteous. This is a public forum.
  • Please stay on topic - both in terms of the organization in general and this post in particular.
  • Please refrain from general political statements in (dis)favor of one of the major parties or their representatives.
  • Please take personal conversations off this forum.
  • We will not publish any comments advocating for violent or any illegal action.
  • We cannot connect participants privately - feel free to leave your contact info here. You may want to create a new / free, readily available email address.
  • Please refrain from copying and pasting repetitive and lengthy amounts of text.
  • Please do not post in all Caps.
  • If you wish to link to a serious and relevant media article, legitimate advocacy group or other pertinent web site / document, please provide the full link. No abbreviated / obfuscated links.
  • We suggest to compose lengthy comments in a desktop text editor and copy and paste them into the comment form
  • We will not publish any posts containing any names not mentioned in the original article.
  • Please choose a user name that does not contain links to other web sites
  • Please send any input regarding moderation or other website issues to moderator [at] all4consolaws [dot] org
ACSOL, including but not limited to its board members and agents, does not provide legal advice on this website.  In addition, ACSOL warns that those who provide comments on this website may or may not be legal professionals on whose advice one can reasonably rely.  
 
28 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments

“The very day they let him into the yard, he was filing complaints, ‘Get me the hell out of here,'” said Ager’s son, Daniel. “‘This is not safe. I’m going to get killed out here.'”

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/02/16/4381879/ap-exclusive-many-sex-offenders.html#storylink=cpy

The prison warden needs to arrested for accessory to murder. The son should file an citizen arrest.

I disagree…they allowed vigilante “justice” and that’s what the prison warden should also receive!

Wow and a judge said the prison officials were not at fault .Omg they had this guy murdered basically by putting him on the general population yard.

Prison guards don’t care what happens to RSO’s, or any other inmate for that matter. Neither does the rest of the law enforcement community. Nor do the lawmakers. They never have, and they never, ever will. As far as any of them are concerned, a dead RSO is a good start. Showing these people that the treatment is unfair, while true, has no chance of bringing change about. The California prison system has been operating in violation of court orders for years and years. They don’t care. Inmates are not humans. And RSO’s are a sub-class below regular inmates. I… Read more »

One way to make them look good is for them and others (including the media) to say they are SMART on crime, not soft on crime. That will indeed be the truth when public safety is increased by the efficient use of taxpayer dollars spent only on monitoring those who pose a current danger, not an individual who committed an offense 20 years ago and has not re-offended.

Speaking of Orange County, compare…

Death sentence: The deadly jail beating of John Chamberlain

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-62296–.html

Prison guards are terrible. When I got to San Q I didn’t want to pc up as they say. I went to the white shot caller as they are called the main guy who tells all the white population what to do basically and explained my case and showed him my police report which I had to sign for because of the nature of my crime. The next day a group of very unfriendly much larger than me white guys came up to me and said don’t stress just do your time. Over a year went by when one of… Read more »

Doug, not all behind bars is FUBARed and I respect that it went well for you. What I question is working with the guards so closely and believing in them so blindly. Take another case already covered here that was part of the same story. Chapluk didn’t need to answer. Petrovich told me that anyone who was considered a “chester” was open to attack by inmates of all races and would be subjected to a merciless assault, which is exactly what he was expected to arrange. As he told me this, Petrovich added that chesters weren’t the only people subjected… Read more »

I think this family needs a better attorney. It is the prison’s business to guard the safety of an inmate. They didn’t. They are at fault. I know that the county of San Diego has paid many settlements for similar cases. Do NOT give up.

You all know, all to well, that once inside there, there is no real law. It the law of the jungle, and no matter how many writs are filed, if you are targeted, its just a matter of time. The guards, most of them, know that in order to keep the respect of the yard and thus their life, that they either give up the guy or they turn their head when it goes down.

And in other news…water is found to be wet.

Clearly this is sanctioned MURDER by the prison system admins. Nothing Less

Yes, it’s our new University system for the new American economy. It’s for people down on their luck to learn the finer arts of hate, drug dealing, torture, rape, gang violence and murder. One can even earn a degree in vigilante justice. Fine job Corrections and Rehabilitation for using all those tax dollars diverted from real universities and using it to make us all feel safer. Horay for the liberal state.

The prison guards are accessories to crimes because they: point out who the victim will be; they arrange for the crime to happen and, they turn their backs when it does happen. It’s the same in county jails, if not worse. These guards think that they’re doing some noble service or living up to a higher calling by allowing sex offenders to be murdered and at a rate higher than gang members! you see, because it’s a sex offender, nobody really gives a damn. What’s a second life sentence to a lifer? Stupid and laughable. Everybody in prisons knows this… Read more »

This is clearly a very disturbing article. I unfortunately spent a little time in LA County Jail 20 years ago/it was my one and only time and to say the least, I was rather shocked at what I saw. I was more afraid of the jailers than convicts. Its also very disturbing to see how gang members, murderers, drive by shooters and strong armed or gun related robbers consider themselves better than some guy who exposed himself or ect. I just don’t get it. You can join a gang and drive by an innocent bystanders house, shoot a gun into… Read more »

Not just California… ALL of the United States would be well advised to take its cues from the other, more enlightened Western democracies, and on many issues. Unfortunately, we arrogantly believe that this is the “greatest country in the world” and thus everyone should learn from us, when it’s so clearly the other way around. A few fun facts about the United States of America In terms of the percentage of women holding public office, the U.S. ranks 79th out of 147 countries, Our unemployment percentage is worse than 102 of the 200 countries listed by the CIA World Factbook.… Read more »

@USA, I agree, it’s a disturbing article, and was hard to even read. As a mother who had a son incarcerated, it was torture and sometimes felt worse then death. I know that doesn’t sound right because they are not gone, but let me explain. In losing someone you love, you grieve, but it’s final and eventually you learn to live again after going through the “stages of grief”. But when someone you love is incarcerated, every night, every day you wonder….are they okay? are they being beaten, or worse? It’s agony, and you can’t get through the stages because… Read more »

What’s more disturbing are the comments supporting these murders. One can understand how, when you put people with anti-social behavior and crowd them in an inhumane environment, there is bound to be violence; but, where do these commenters get this desire to see people they don’t even know tortured and murdered. Sounds like they need to be watched.

What do they teach in California prison’s today? Do they kill sex offenders just out of spite or do they kill for the thrill of being the big man on campus to coin a phrases. They should be teaching the Gospel in prison to every inmate. A sex offender is no different from any other person that commits a crime. It is sad to hear that people do these things and would make any mother of a loved one go a bit stir crazy. I know they have monitor’s in cells to keep track of populous but sometimes that becomes… Read more »

Religion like the registry is a huge failure and for the same reasons.

Religion is, however, knowing God and understanding and living His values is the foundation that country need to go back to.

“understanding and living His values”
And there we have the problem. No one can decide who’s interpretation is correct?

Hmm… Notice how the corrections officials are blaming their inability to control what goes on in their own prisons on “an overhaul meant to reduce overcrowding?” I wonder if they would ever consider being a voice against this state and nation locking up so many of it’s own people for crimes that usually aren’t crimes anywhere else in the world; probably not, because to their kind money, looking good, fitting into their LE culture, is more important than truth or justice. “The problem is most acute with sex offenders ?!?!” Gee wiz; you would think if these dubiously upright people… Read more »

Is it really that hard to protect SOs by maybe sending them all to one prison with a special unit/wing just for them?
Considering that the vast majority are non-violent or otherwise non-criminal people, it wouldn’t take much in the way of staff resources to manage/guard them.

One simple way that Corrections can reduce violence against sex offenders is to eliminate the “R” or “Restricted” classification. This classification is only for sex offenders and those inmates who have attempted to escape. Corrections understands very well how sex offenders are treated in prison and they want escapees to have the same treatment. Everyone on the prison yard knows who has an “R” classification and everyone knows that essentially no one escapes because the security is so strong now. All the “R” classification does is put a target on the backs of sex offenders. It provides absolutely no other… Read more »

Interesting article. I can relate to the environment – I spent 3 years in state prison as a SO, 6 of those months in reception at San Quentin, which was a hellhole. Here’s the thing about SNY yards (which the victim in the article WAS in), it’s made up of two main groups – SO’s and DO’s (gang drop-outs), and other smaller groups (gays, ex-cops, etc) Anyways, the culture of an SNY yard is that usually DO’s will not talk or associate with an SO. The problem is when the prison cell’s up a DO and a SO together, which… Read more »

This is the reason that so many innocent people like myself took plea bargains rather than face juries which can be manipulated by lawyers so innocent people do NOT always win.

It is a matter of life and death – what choice did we have – NONE!

This should be a federal oversight. The feds are already in oversight mode due to overcrowding. A federal civil rights lawsuit is in order. bypass the state on this one.

28
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x
.