The Florida Action Committee today has submitted a complaint to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, on behalf of our members and registrants in the State of Florida who are now subject to the new requirements of the International Megan’s Law.
If you are interested in filing a complaint on your own behalf, please contact info@floridaactioncommittee.org to request instructions. FAC Statement
Awesome….Go FAC !!…
I actually believe this will be the only way to make change. Our system of justice and politics has become too polluted with a baseless foundation of law built upon one myth upon another. The political and judicial costs are just too high in the US to go backwards. We need to take it to the UN and they have given us the angle we needed: International travel! Now we need a world voice to tell us what country policies will be for us!
I’ll be doing a complaint myself and I encourage others to do so as well…
I can recall taking a Business Law Course. This is a Human Rights Violation
So is this just for the people in Florida?
Unfortunately, legal action pursued through non-US courts are generally worthless. They may hold some value in promotion, but it seems such an awfully expensive proposition to obtain something that can’t be used as a citation in a US Court. I’m not dissing FAC’s action, per se, but it would seem to make more sense to try to work the court system within Florida, or the federal circuit court, than trhough an international tribunal.
Through Angle Watch and IML, the United States has infected the whole world with its obsession for punishing former sex crimes offenders. This is an appropriate venue to have our petitions addressed. It is a complement to the efforts within US courts. You put pressure from both ends to weaken the middle.
Any action is better than no action.
This could really help people visiting or wanting to move abroad, like me! I care more about the world than this f***ed up country, and it seems from reports that the rest of the world thinks this government and their stance toward “human rights” is pathetic.
I ran across this put out by Interpol: resolution AG2014-RES-02.
Regardless of how much we file lawsuits, the way I see it the problem is not going away, as stated in the Resolution: “ENCOURAGES member countries, within the limits of their national regulatory frameworks, to develop notification-sharing and information-sharing measures regarding travelling child sex offenders to ensure better protection of children from convicted offenders; ”
The issue I see from the side of the US is it’s implementation. Whereas they International community seems to take care of the humanity sides of those subject to these needs, with: “TAKING INTO ACCOUNT that the right of child sex offenders to travel freely should be balanced with the right of children worldwide to protection from all forms of sexual exploitation and sexual abuse”
AND
” RECOGNIZING that any notifications and information-sharing measures regarding travelling child sex offenders must comply with national and international standards regarding the privacy of individuals and protection of fundamental rights.”
Notification is not going away. I can only hope and pray it’s done humanly. I personally feel this IML lawsuit must be a list of criteria the government must be burdened with by implementation of this global scheme. The trouble for us in the US is that we already got off on a bad step with our punishing laws and so implementing from here an IML global scheme they will go about it in the cowboy way they have been doing: passport identifiers. Whats more, I believe this lawsuit is an opportunity to ask that due-process be performed before any notifications can occur ( a process not statutory in nature to assess one’s risk level). The latter ensures only proper notices are sent; furthermore, this individual assessment should have been done from the beginning! If they cry, “we dont have the resources” then my answer is stop making the whole damn country a bunch of sex offenders!!
I feel this lawsuit is an opportunity:
1) recognize global travel notification is not going away
2) to implement IML in a humane manner
3) to develop long-over due processes to individually make risk assessment of RC’s.
4) to call upon the global community to maintain travel data by country so that traveling is not a gamble.
The ICPO-INTERPOL General Assembly, meeting in Monaco from 3 to 7 November 2014, at its 83rd session:
NOTING that individuals with a sexual interest in children often travel to other countries, particularly developing countries, in order to sexually abuse and exploit children
AG-2014-RES-02
Subject: Improving International Notifications and Information Sharing Regarding Travelling Child Sex Offenders by Using INTERPOL’s Green Notices.
NOTING that individuals with a sexual interest in children often travel to other countries, particularly developing countries, in order to sexually abuse and exploit children,
RECOGNIZING that transnational child sex offending is a global phenomenon, and can only be prevented through the efforts of both origin and destination countries,
CONSIDERING the importance of making accurate and timely information about the travel of convicted child sex offenders available to border-control and protection agencies in destination countries,
ACKNOWLEDGING that a number of INTERPOL member countries already have systems or practices in place for travel notifications, and for sharing information about child sex offenders whose travel originates in their countries,
RECOGNIZING that any notifications and information-sharing measures regarding travelling child sex offenders must comply with national and international standards regarding the privacy of individuals and protection of fundamental rights,
TAKING INTO ACCOUNT that the right of child sex offenders to travel freely should be balanced with the right of children worldwide to protection from all forms of sexual exploitation and sexual abuse,
CONVINCED that INTERPOL can play a major role in facilitating the sharing of timely information between countries regarding travelling child sex offenders, providing notifications regarding the travel of such offenders, and promoting the transnational investigation and prosecution of offenses against children,
ENCOURAGES member countries, within the limits of their national regulatory frameworks, to develop notification-sharing and information-sharing measures regarding travelling child sex offenders to ensure better protection of children from convicted offenders;
Resolution No. 2 AG-2014-RES-02
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FURTHER ENCOURAGES member countries to work together through INTERPOL on the establishment of a global system for notification and information sharing on travelling child sex offenders, which makes information instantly available while being transparent, accessible, and fair;
URGES member countries to extend the INTERPOL I-24/7 secure global communications network to border and specialized police authorities and to seek the publication of green notices and diffusions in order to notify destination countries about travelling child sex offenders in a timely and systematic manner and encourage the regular sharing of appropriate information regarding such offenders.
Approved
I was wondering if anyone had put together statistics on attempted suicide rates of RSO and their family members. Someone had commented on a post on an article that they received 24 calls in a six month period at a suicide hotline they worked at from family members of RSO’s who cannot bear the punishment of this list. I think these statistics need to be compiled and assembled as proof of the effects of this debilitating punishment because it is punishment. Not a civil obligation.
I dont see how comments 1 and 2 have to do with the INTERPOL Resolution. wake up!!!! see the writing on the wall. it ain’t going away! deal with it!!! i myself will join this lawsuit, if necessary, in pursuit of what I see are the objectives
David H, help me out here. I assume comments 1 and 2 refer to the comments made by Joe and myself. I think they are relevant to a complaint filed with the Human Rights Commission. The fact that we are not international traffickers is a valid complaint against the Interpol’s actions. What is your point exactly?
Article 2 (of the Interpol constitution) states that its role is:
“To ensure and promote the widest possible mutual assistance between all criminal police authorities within the limits of the laws existing in the different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
To establish and develop all institutions likely to contribute effectively to the prevention and suppression of ordinary law crimes.”
Interpol hardly “represents the whole world.” It is an information sharing service of member police organizations and isn’t supposed to arrest people on its own. It was once headquartered in Nazi Germany, and most of the member nations bailed out for duration of the Nazis regime. More recently, Interpol violated its ban on political involvement, and was put on notice by civil societies for giving political dissidents,refugees and legitimate asylum seekers red notices. A quick Wikipedia (OK it is Wikipedia, I haven’t verified it beyond that) search gives many other examples of Interpol controversies. They are not without oversight by human rights organizations and other international civil societies. They themselves appear to recognize their need for improvement by setting up a Working Group on the Processing of Information to hear recommendations of civil society as regards the reform of the international investigation system. Maybe that is the place to negotiate a more humane and just notification system.
David H said “David K I can and agree with everything you and Timmer say; I am not a defeatist; but we cant even win this sex-offender stuff in one US State of the country; and the Fed. government has turned into the two-ton-gorilla, how can we possibly win at the global table??”
I’d like to chime in, if I may. This kind of reminds me of the opposite of Trumps strategy for cutting deals. Instead of making the most demands up front, we would be giving away most of everything before it even gets started.
“We better start planning on getting an International human rights team and attorney if we believe we can change the international community–this is a Hugh leap whereas we have been unsuccessful in large part here in the US.”
Most of the world does not buy into all this registry stuff, though. The change of mindset needs to happen at the source of the hysteria and with those closeby who do buy into the hysteria. It will be hard talking over the loud hypocrites like Bill O’Reilly, who had a sex scandal with one of his adult interns himself or John Walsh , unconvicted child rapist and SORNA creator who instead of conviction and registration in New York, gets a street named after him. Then, there’s the show Law and Order:SVU, where every registrant is portrayed as the worst of the worst and registry add-ons are falsley portrayed as being productive, where 2 of the shows writers have been convicted of child sex offenses, and that show has been on for over 20 years. The US is the main place for an education effort, as well as Australia who seems to have taken some of the worst aspects of our criminal justice system.
“The US contributes the largest share of the funding for the UN and has perhaps the greatest influence to sway direction.”
At one time, that was true. Back when Clinton was President, he fired Boutros Boutros Ghali from the UN. I don’t know exactly when things changed, but it’s different now. The US is not the dominant world player we were. If we still controlled the UN, there wouldn’t be all this anti-Israel stuff coming out of the UN. Russia and China currently control the UN, and they ,like the US, have veto power.
“To do that in our favor would require new data in our case law and new judgements resulting from these data. I just believe we must negotiate a foundation one case at a time! and in this matter I believe the tenets that Interpol have expressed is a good foundation for a foundation.”
I’m liking the UN more than Interpol. Interpol is complicit in this denial of leaving the country for US citizens. They seem more like North Korea to condone this. North Korea doesn’t let its citizens leave and also doesn’t let them speak freely ( kind of reminds me of Kelly’s attack on the 1st Amendment ). The UN has a Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as Timmr pointed out, a freedom of movement article. I think the tenets of the UN are a better foundation. If Interpol had this, they wouldn’t be part of the unannounced policy of slander and resulting denial of travel.
” That should be the foundation we have at home here but we dont!”
That Interpol resolution was not very reassuring and should not be used as a foundation. The UN declarations, on the other hand…
“At no time in history even with the most liberal of Presidents, FDR, have we been a truly compassionate people–look we turned a blind-eye to the Jews in the 30’s, as did the rest of the world”
I don’t think there is any nation at anytime in history that was 100% compassionate. But nations can strive for that by making improvements. And many have. The US improved on its treatment of vets in ww2, where it treated ww1 vets very badly. Of course, regression occurred in how we treated our Vietnam vets. Also, in the early 60’s, a lot was still wrong, but progress was made. Obviously, still a lot wrong in how non-whites were treated, but the 60’s were better than the 50’s, which were better than the 40’s. Progress was being made, whereas with all these new faceBook funded pet project anti-registrant Megan’s law add-ons, we are going backwards. It hasn’t always been this way and doesn’t have to be like this.
“; shall we demand our own State some where in the world??”
True about the Jews in the 30’s. The U.S took in some, but not enough. To stay within the US, I think if California ever breaks up into 6 smaller states, there might be room for our own state. Or possibly part of Vermont as I have heard of a Vermont seccessionist movement. Vermont seems like a decent state.