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So you want to have a Registry for Community Safety

[ – 6/30/18]

For those of you who believe we have to have a registry to protect our citizens. I have from time to time thought hard on this and I recognize the fact that there are people out there that just aren’t going to change their beliefs and attitudes towards other people and will continue harming others, so here’s my solution.

If we have to have a registry, which I believe is unconstitutional, then let’s limit it to the most dangerous people. In order to be legal within the Constitution it cannot be limited to just one class of crime or criminal. Plus it must be proven that they are the worst of the worst and a danger to society. So here’s how we go about that.

First of all it has to be a hands on crime, that is it has to have a real victim who has physically been harmed. the claiming of mental or emotional harm without physical harm is unrelated in that we all suffer mental and emotional damage from our daily lives. But were looking for the worst of the worst.

It follows that those that have hands-on crimes involving a victim that suffers physically, mentally and emotionally are the worst. So what would fall within this guideline.The first thing that comes to mind is rape and sexual assault but we can’t stop there that is only one class of crime. We would have to include murder and assault, that could also included home invasion if the victims in the home were physically harmed. This could also include armed robbery or even carjacking if physical harm came to a victim. Also included in this would be things such as DUI, DWI if there was injury to either people in the vehicle that the drunk driver was driving or in another vehicle. I think you get the gist so now we’ve laid out the guidelines for what type of crimes would be on the registry.

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Let’s include domestic violence and all fraud related crimes because there are real victims.

This is a good article and covers some interesting points.

I only read the bit of the article that was posted above, and I’m not going to bother reading the rest. It started out badly enough that I suspect its conclusions, whatever they are, will lack probative or persuasive value.

The author first makes some arguable legal assertions without citing support for them, then equates hands-on offending with physical harm and avers that those who commit such crimes are the worst. This kind of writing is unhelpful because it demonstrates cognitive distortions, such as labeling, over-generalization, minimization, and simplification.

@CR – You should keep reading. He deliberately states that as a strawman argument and then goes on to use those definitions to expend them to other crimes such as murder, robbery, etc. Basically saying that if you’re going to define something as worst of the worst using any such broad criteria, then many more crimes than sex offenses would have registry if the actual goal of the registry was to protect people from future harm.

I agree with you AO, I think that there should be more articles that talks the straw figure fallacies that have been used against registrants.

Let’s just put everybody in America on a registry! Nobody has a perfect past, it’ll be quite simple! We will publicly post everybody’s mistakes on the internet, and air out all the dirty laundry in the whole of the U.S.A.!

Would love your thoughts, please comment.x