This is an open discussion where you can share your ideas on how we registrants can find housing in a society that discriminates against us. For example:
- How to look for housing
- Available housing search resources
- Your success story
If your information is specific to your state, please mention the state.
WARNING: No advertisements for specific housing will be posted. We are discussing general concepts.
Tangential to this topic, but how does a registered person find rental housing? I’m in a cheap month-to-month apartment right now where they did not ask about criminal history, but I am moving out of state and so far most of the rentals I am seeing are managed by property management companies which deny sex offenders. I’ve got great credit and a great reference from my current landlord but none of that seems to matter when you have this Mark of Cain. I am considering buying a used RV as a hedge against homelessness and then just parking in month to month RV parks or private lots rented out by an owner. Being mobile, I could always park somewhere else if my status was discovered. I’m a truck driver and I’m looking for a job there where I would be away for a week or more at a time anyway (single, no kids), so I wouldn’t be around much. Wondering how feasible this plan is. Been trying to find a similar month to month apartment like I have now but I’m coming up empty-handed.
When I was waiting for my parole plan to be approved, the one sticking point was getting approval on my proposed living arrangements. I had no family in the state, and being in prison I had no real way to go apartment hunting. This was keeping me from being released.
My mother worked with an attorney in the local area to put together my parole plan. When it came to searching for an apartment there were two problems – finding one in an allowable place, and finding a landlord that was willing to rent to me. The bigger problem was finding the willing landlord.
After many attempts to find a place failed, my attorney came up with an ‘in-your-face’ way to do this. He placed an ad in the classified section of a few local papers where people post ads seeking living arrangements. The ad read, “Sex offender being released from prison seeking apartment/house for rent…” He followed with his office’s phone number. Believe it or not he got responses from landlords. Most of these were duplexes or apartments in outlying areas. They called fully aware of my situation, and it was not necessary to beat around the bush. Luckily, one of them worked out and was approved by the PO assigned to my parole plan. My mother paid a couple of month’s rent for him to hold the apartment open for me while the final parole hearing took place.
This worked for me. I was granted early parole and released to live in the upper flat of a duplex. I still live in the same building 18 years later, although a few years ago we bought the place and converted the duplex into a single-family house.
My point – sometimes the direct approach is the best one. I had nothing to lose by allowing the ads to be placed, and since the calls were going to my attorney’s office I was not worried about any nut jobs that might decide to call.
The term “registrant” is derogatory and offensive. It’s usage should be frowned upon.
How does denial of a rental reconcile with CA’s 290 status stating your registration cannot be used as a factor? Even your criminal record cannot be used as a factor if it’s more than 7 years old, right?
My family and I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt and with all too much pain (horrific pain), that finding a house that I am “allowed” to live in, is 1,000,000 times harder than finding a job. I am not on parole. I am very well employed. I am disgusted and ashamed by what I did CP. I am not more of a threat than someone who hasn’t been convicted of any sex crime. Funny thing is, is that I am way happier now than I was when I was acting like that, but disgusted and angry that I have had to move my family, again. They can’t stop my success & I am succeeding and I am proving “them” wrong & pissing them off.
I’ve always advocated even for non-registrants another “crazy” option that isn’t so crazy and it’s quite popular.
It involves minimalism, survivalist mindset, freedom to move around and affordability. It’s call RV life or vandwelling. I’ve noticed many registrants do not have a driver’s license so this would not be an option for them. In California, life in a small but cozy RV can be just the ticket to a bad mess. In my case, it’s saved my hide on a few occasions. In California, cities are no longer allowed to force you to move around simply for being “homeless”. If it’s a public street, you can park there. Just move around and obey the typical laws.
I lucked out after a fire last year and was GIVEN a class B custom camper-van, old enough to almost be considered vintage, but clean, never lived in, low miles and easy to work on. These can be had for a few thousand if you look around. It sure beats paying rent. Many, like mine have a kitchen, shower, toilet, couch/bed combo, seating area and even a pantry. If you are handy, you can build one from a cheap van. There is a solution for every budget.
If you live and die with a computer like I do, ditch the desktop computer and stick with a laptop and a great cell phone plan offering unlimited tethering. A tablet PC can be a blessing as well. Books to read, internet without burning power from the laptop. Adding solar, extra batteries can help quite a bit.
At some point, I will be back on the road in my Class B camper looking for the place I can finally call home. Of course, i’ll probably be on the road for a very long time. But again, it beats paying rent.
If for no other reason, it’s a great plan B if you do lose your place. Keeping it stocked with water, food, fuel, clothing and other supplies is always a good backup plan. Nice for road trips as well.
Keep it clean and cared for and you can fetch a lot of money for it if you finally find a good place to live.
I have noticed if you go around some small to mid sized universities, there tend to be some cheaper apartments in those areas catering to students which tend to be managed and owned by the same person. If you tell them you plan on attending school there, they tend to not to ask many questions beyond that. I have had a lot of luck in those areas.
For veterans, there is the Home Loan program which makes it easier to qualify for a home load with zero down. You can even get a duplex, for example as log s you live in it, and make sure someone is living in the other side to help pay the mortgage which would count as repayment, if I am not mistaken.
In Texas for veterans, there is the land program. You find some land you want to get, the TX VA Land Office will purchase the land, then puts the land in your name with the state as the lean holder, while you pay then off at a very low interest rate. No credit check, but you have to show you have the ability to pay them off. Then you can move your RV, camber on there, or build.
I live in Oklahoma City and I do not have to register anymore, Thanks be to God but I still can not seem to get an apartment. I am a 52 year old male Independently disabled I receive $698 check with $200 food stamps and $40 from Oklahoma debit program. I am a relaxed smoker of 10 smokes a day and have not been able to find an apartment even though I am not on the registry for 2 years all because of 3rd party websites not having accurate information and yes I know there are ways to try and get websites to remove info but 1 it is expensive and 2 they do not all obey the laws and as I am on disability there is no way to afford Lawyers so if any one knows of any apartments in Oklahoma city that is under $550 all bills paid or $450 and I will pay bills I would love to know about it. I have setup a new email that I will delete after I get an apartment and it is to be used to send me options for places to live. I will not click on links so please do not send links to web pages as that is a sure way to end up on a site where we do not want to be. Please be kind and send information for Oklahoma city and surrounding areas. The email address is izzup777@gmail.com Thank you
We found a for rent by owner home about 2 years ago. Now mind you that was before the AWA happened here in NV. Hopefully we have no issues and can stay here since weve been here a while!!!!
Finding a place to live in Penn is a bit easier than other states as there is no state law for residency restrictions. So now all you have to do is find a landlord that is willing to rent to you because of your status as a RC.
Again, as mentioned in many other posts it is best to avoid seeking a residence that is run by a management company. My experience and of those that I know it is best to deal with the landlord personally.
When I was granted parole back in June of 2010 it took me some time to find a place to live once I would be released and of course I could not get a confirmed release date until I had a confirmed/approved place to live. I sent so many letters out from prison to many places asking for some type of housing accommodations. Many just flat out did not respond or sent me letters of denial. Until I got one response which almost made me cry. There was word going around the “yard” of a landlord that was willing to rent to felons and even RC. He returned my letter with a very nice and friendly understanding of my circumstances and his belief that all people deserve a second chance no matter what.
He owned several properties and one of them was a boarding house. Long story short I arranged to have a one month rent sent to him to hold the room for me, submitted my Home Plan and it was approved about 8 days later. My release date was confirmed and I was out in Nov 2010.
The first day the landlord came by, introduced himself, we sat and signed the papers for my room rental agreement and then we had a nice long friendly chat. What a very nice human being he is. I say is because we still stay in communications by sending holiday greetings to each other via text messaging even though I moved from his until back in Feb 2014 after completing my parole. I bought a house up north for my retirement. Again, his belief was every deserves a second chance.
The rooming house had about 5 bedrooms, each person had their private bedroom and shared the rest of the house. There were other RC living there also and on parole. The PO liked that because he could visit several in one shot. The monthly rental was very reasonable and included everything. Here and there he had a boarder who would find out about some of the criminal history of the other boarders and would complain to the landlord that they were not told about them/us. The landlord told them he was not at all obligated to tell them and if they pursued to complain more to him he would simply tell them – “If you don’t want to live in the same house with them then leave” and would politely rip up their lease.
The landlord married a woman from another country. He is a Christian and he and his wife adopted all of their children; all six of them and all six from different countries and cultures. Boys and girls and they ranged in age from 14 to 24. Polite, friendly and respectful is the only way I could describe all of their children. He and his wife did such a fantastic job of raising them. Even the youngest knew of our crimes because his parents wanted him to learn from early on “forgiveness” and how to be a good human being.
Sorry, long story short here – After being out for 8 years now I found that living arrangements like boarding houses or rooms for rent were most times the best options for RC to pursue just coming out of prison. Also, some of the landlord also rent houses (he did) and the whole family could live together. His rent was very reasonable and if you felt you would be a bit short in the rent or a bit late all you had to do was let him know as soon as you could and he would work with you. Because of the respect he showed you all you could possibly do in return is show him respect back.
This shows that there are landlords out there willing to rent to you. He was a member of some type of Landlord organization and the other member knew he would rent to RC. They would ask him “why would you rent to people like that” – his response was – “because they appreciate the second chance and tend to be the most respectful and appreciative tenants you could have. He would also tell them if you treat people with respect you get respect back.
I have never heard of anybody in any state being arrested or convicted for living in a house that was “off limits” to an RSO. I’m sure I could find some via google. What about living where any other free American lives, and if you get arrested, already have a lawyer in place and already have contacts w/the aclu.
@Anonymous — “What about living where any other free American lives, and if you get arrested, already have a lawyer in place and already have contacts w/the aclu.”
The ACLU won’t get involved in individual criminal cases. The exceptions are things like Smith v Doe or Does v Snyder where larger civil rights concerns affecting large numbers of people are at issue. So having contacts with the ACLU serves no purpose. And so what if you have a lawyer in place ahead of time? If you are clearly in violation of the law, you are not going to win unless you can mount a successful challenge to the law.
And I wouldn’t be so sure that people don’t get arrested and convicted for living where they are restricted from living after being notified and failing to move. Testing this is risking being arrested and prosecuted, having your life and the lives of your family members turned upside down, costing you enormous amounts of time and money to fight it.
My parents brought me an RV and was allowed to live in the back yard until the country inspector saw me coming out of the place and told my parents. Country laws said no RV living So I moved to my dad condo then my dad had to sell out then I moved to my boss’s house.
I just got lucky.
I have been registering in Ca. with no living problems for 25 years. I had a stroke closer to a hospital in Oregon so I lived in Oregon for 4 years. When I was released from medical help and had to exit my assisted care building, I tried to look for a dwelling. However, I had no body from the state to help me deal with this new part of the law of PC 290 law. So I moved back to CA., and came across the same new part. So There is no transitional resources avalible for me. I ended up on the streets at 62 years old in a wheelchair with very little use of left arm or leg and on many medications. I am no longer a citizen of this United States or the state I was born Ca.
So Here I Am……