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What has been the experience with getting hired by an employer after you have been given an offer letter…tell them before or after the background check about your history? I’ve been made a great conditional offer but there’s a background check. My conviction is thirteen years old but I’m on the hit list. I live in Orange County, CA (Southern California) and I’ll mainly work from or out of my home with trips to client offices (the main office is in Northern California so technically my employment would be Northern California). This job is double what I currently earn and… Read more »

Here’s my advice: 1. Know your story. Don’t lie, but don’t disadvantage yourself either. Plan ahead (even write down and memorize) what it is you are going to say. Know what points you want to make: “it was 13 years ago and no trouble at all since that time”; “10 solid years with your current employer” (shows stability, commitment, serious work ethic, etc.), maybe emphasize that you’ve paid for your mistakes and you’re working hard to be a valuable, contributing member of society. I like to think people are generally good and would like to help out if you can… Read more »

Thanks for the input David. I’m hoping they at least give me the opportunity to have “my say”. Your points are appreciated!

KWA, I am putting my responses in your post so I can follow it! What has been the experience with getting hired by an employer after you have been given an offer letter…tell them before or after the background check about your history? I wouldn’t say a word. The law has changed in California. If they say they can no longer offer you the job, they must send you something writing telling you the results and why the offense would disqualify you. They can’t just use a board reasoning. I’ve been made a great conditional offer but there’s a background… Read more »

Thanks for the input! Very helpful and appreciated!

I just went through the same thing literally this week. Thank god I got the job I was offered but I had to fight for it. Do not disclose anything!!! They will run your background and in California they can only see 7 years. If the job doesn’t involve direct contact with minors they are not allowed to use the registry at all. CA PC290.46 strictly prohibits this. If they find it, you will be given the opportunity to respond and explain lyourself. I wrote a good letter and got letters from my wife, current employer and some friends who… Read more »

Thank you so much. This is so encouraging!

Done this many times. First, a conditional offer is NOT an offer. Tell them once they complete their check, you’ll be happy to accept their offer. Do mention they may find things during their check. As another poster mentions, do be ready to explain… If they ask. Generally they don’t ask, either way. Many companies run only completely legal checks. If your offense is that old, a legal check only goes back seven years. *Technically* searching the registry sites IS illegal… That doesn’t mean you have real recourse if they run an illegal check. They ARE required to give you… Read more »

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK TO PULL UP 290 STATUS. I had this happen and I got a positive outcome. 1) Always document everything. Never delete those emails/documents. If denied, you need names, dates, and those documents. 2) If they ask for an explanation, but conciliatory, overly so, if you can stand it. Say that you’ve grown, you recognize what you did was wrong, etc. 2) Report it to the dfeh. It will take a 6-12 months for a case to process. You will need to continue the job hunt. 3) Bug the caseworker for the dfeh weekly.… Read more »

Thanks for the topic. First off – my disclosure policy is on a “need to know” basis – and I think it is always better for an employer to have the opportunity to get to know you as a person and an employee before learning about your charges. Also – while “Ban the Box” is helpful, in allowing returning citizens to submit applications, it doesn’t keep employers from running standard checks at the time of hiring you. They can choose to make up any reason they want to “eliminate your position.” Although the “7 year rule” sounds nice – the… Read more »

@Joseph

Thank you for sharing your insights on this matter. It seems that I can relate to lot of points you have brought up.

You mentioned visual artist in your background. Which industry was it in? Graphic arts? Animation? Filmmaking? I’m curious…

KWA…hang in there I was in a similiar situation about 10 years ago for a great job in So Cal for an international company; the long and short is they only went back 7 years for background check and nothing came up of my SO. I worked 7 years for them and retired 18 months ago. Not sure how to find out how far back they go…but hang in there

Thanks for your encouraging words. I think best case scenario they won’t find it, but I know I will show up on “the list”. I think it’s best to wait to see what they uncover before I say a word and then hope I get an opportunity to at least fight for myself. If nothing came up of your SO status, did you feel like you were always looking over your shoulder? Part of me just wants them to know and hope they can deal with it (like the employer I have now). My current employer is a small company… Read more »

Hello there, Sadly, background companies like HireRight and ChoicePoint LEGALLY and DO use the registry. My husband lost his job after 15 months for being found on the website. Ignore the fact that they are not allowed to use this for Employment or Apartments, etc. THEY DO. They are using it through Third Party Vendors and get away with it. We even personally spoke to one of the attorney’s whom was present at the ACSOL conference, and they can use it. ( They are using loopholes) I always say honesty is the best, but let’s be honest, in big corporations… Read more »

Do you mind if I ask what they used as an excuse to fire him? Was it company policy and risk as you mentioned? I find it so crazy that someone could work for you for that long and then suddenly they are a risk or liability. It’s not like you lied on an application. So lame.

UPDATE: Got the job…background check did not find the felony. Started working two weeks ago and couldn’t be happier. I did wait to give notice until the background check came back which meant giving notice of only a few days. That didn’t go over to good but I offered to help via telephone if they needed me and that seemed to go a long way. Big concern now is I know they have a school as a client (although I think there is only one among thousands of other clients). I may be called to go work in their front… Read more »

@KWA

Congratulations! I’m happy for you! Nothing like a win now and then for Registrants.

How long ago was your case that your employment couldn’t pick up? And how long were you under lifetime supervision before you began petitioning to get off from it? Are you in CA?

Well it’s that time of the year again. Time to snap out of my illusion of normality, of being just like everyone else. Time to go down to the police station and submit to my yearly registration. I hate it. I hate this month. It makes me anxious, angry, and sad that this has to happen, that this has to intrude on the holiday season with my kids and family. I don’t know why the law wasn’t set to have your yearly registration date be your conviction date instead of your birthday. That would make it easy and almost guaranteed… Read more »

I feel for you. Just went to my fiance’s son’s wedding in Vegas. Been there before and registered there before for a four days stay but of course had to ask permission to go again as I ‘m still on a lifetime leash for CP. Even my P.O. says it’s a waste of his time to come out to visit me every month because I’m so low risk…but do you think that will change any time soon? So, I had to fly out early before everyone else to spend half a day in the Police station registering, again. My phone… Read more »

@JesusH I have this personal theory that the decision to make appointments during the birth month was NOT done for their convenience or efficiency. But rather it was done out of spite to inflict emotional distress and further torture us psychologically. Same goes for how they make us wait 10-20 minutes in chairs AFTER the designated appointment time. I know fully damn well it’s done intentionally Never smile, joke or be friendly with them. Ever. They are not your friends. Look through them, not at them. Most of them lack sensitivity training and have an empathy deficit when it comes… Read more »

JesusH
In California it is 5 business days. Weekends and holidays don’t count if they are closed.

I feel you.

If you got one, wear a suit. It rattles the hell out of these cops. They want you to be scared, to look like a mess, to look like a criminal.

It is night and day when you present yourself as professionally as you can. It’s a small victory, but a victory nonetheless.

Yeah, this.

Myself, I don’t own any formalwear, but I go in wearing my Sunday best like I’m going to a job interview. Something like business casual. Don’t go in looking like a deadbeat.

I was wondering if the 7 years limit on background check is the same for rentals as I will be looking in long beach ca.next year. Any suggestions would help as my conviction misdeameanor is 25 years old.

Hi BA, I can only speak from personal experience and from working with other registrants in the outreach areas of my work. Many rental properties that are LLC owned, use background companies. They can only go back 7 years, but if you are a registrant, and they are signed up for sex offender checks, they will find you. We have lost 5 apartments in the past 8 years. My husband was never on the lease, but sometimes when you move in, the local residents are signed up to alert a neighbor when a sex offender moves in. BOOM! They are… Read more »

Well have you given thought to buying a mobile home and putting it in a park that’s has older owners or any mobile park that needs to fill a space ?

I had an apartment overturned, but two acceptances!
I was upfront, but did not disclose everything. I just said there was something that happened x amount of years ago and how should I fill out the form. I also gave them a copy of my expungement. The apartment tried to weasel their way out of it, but I living there now.
However, some places don’t even run a background check. A nice complex down the street only ran a credit check.
Oh and always look professional and never grovel.

Bay area Res.,
Did you feel it necessary to show your expungent of the crime, did they ask if you were a registrant? As a guy with the same circumstances here, I also have copy of expungement. How do you go about this just wait to they ask you if you have past record? Don’t give it up if you don’t have to? Sounds like we have to decide ourselves?
BA

Any lawyers here care to speculate how a new Smith v. Doe would turn out?

I’d say we have three guaranteed votes in our favor: Ginsburg, Breyer, and Gorsuch. Thoughts on the other 2 needed?

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/gundy-v-united-states/.

If they reheard it, it might be five (Alito, Roberts, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh) to four (Kegan, Sotomyer, Breyer and Ginsburg) in favor of Gundy.

Gundy is final. The request for rehearing was denied.

You may know this, but while one party in both Gundy and Smith were “sex offenders”, the question in Gundy and the question in Smith had nothing at all in common. While there might be one or two justices who would rule in a way favorable to the “sex offender” party in both cases, most would likely be in opposite camps on the questions presented.

To clarify, the SCOTUS blog article suggests that a future, similar non-delegation case might be ruled 5 to 4 that too much of the legislature’s authority had been unconstitutionally delegated. (In “Gundy”, for example, to the USAG.)

@anonymous: I don’t know who the other 2 would be, but I’m rather sure of 2 who they would NOT be: Alito (always falls on the side of LE) and Roberts (hired-gun attorney who argued for AK in Smith). That leaves Kavanaugh, Sotomayor, and Kagan. Of those three, I only see Sotomayor as a possibility. I don’t trust Kav. in any case to help the citizen. Kagan, as a former Solicitor General, is a bit of a law-and-order liberal. @David: My reading of Alito’s limp-wrist concurrence in Gundy made it sound to me like he is open to looking into… Read more »

Florida ?? Is there any news about two lawsuits in Florida, both about Florida keeping people on their Florida Registry long after they’ve moved a ay or died?
(I posted last month, but did not see any replies.)

Finally a “Homeless Shelter” (Clarksburg Mission’s) is sticking up for “Humans” on the registry. However the newly elected councilman warns donors about this shocking finding and suggests that donations to the shelter should cease until the rules of the shelter are changed. https://www.wvnews.com/theet/opinion/columns/bullying-the-mission-won-t-help-end-homelessness-in-clarksburg/article_df14772e-7891-56f9-a5fe-ee5b3836dc36.html “Gary Keith, Clarksburg City councilman, stooped to a new low by hurtling accusations at the Mission on a Facebook video for 30 meandering, disjointed minutes.” “Councilman accuses mission of bringing in sex offenders” https://www.wdtv.com/content/news/Councilman–565302392.html ‘Marissa Rexroad, associate director with the Clarkburg Mission gave a statement saying “We’re not going to engage with the kind of morally bankrupt… Read more »

Maybe beating a dead horse on this question, but bare with me. Janice, if you want to chime in, Filing for a 311.11(a) reduction to misdomeanor. 6 yrs since release from jail in Northern Ca. If I wait to file ( due to shortage of funds ), until 2021 and the tier system takes affect, am I a tier 1 or 2 ? and is the reduction retro active if tier level is in fact reduced. I wasn’t going to bother with any of it, didn’t see the reason to, but someone told me to not give in and fight… Read more »

I believe at the moment a felony 311.11 is T3 with a misdemeanor being T1. I don’t see any reason why a reduction in your charges wouldn’t effect your tier at any point. It might take a while to take effect, but if you manage to reduce it at a later date, you should be bumped down.

Thx for responding. I have asked different law firms supposedly specializing in reductions, but get different answers.

I finished an article that listed an ICE agent that was convicted to 6 yrs for possesdion of multiple CP videos. He had used his goveenment ID to gain access to the site.
It seems that the people that judge us are worse than we are.

@So tired:
“It seems that the people that judge us are worse than we are.”
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You mean like the LA cop just busted for groping a corpse? Ooops..someone forgot about the two-minute recording buffer on body cams. (He had turned it off, but the camera kept rolling.)

And so it begins… Got my letter yesterday from the local PD reminding me of my duty to register and that I need to call in for an appointment. It ends by saying that if I don’t register they’ll file a criminal complaint with the DA. Very nice to be threatened like that. Icing on the cake though is how the letter starts. It says “As a convicted sex offender…” Well, let’s see, I got my 1203.4 and 17b this year so basically as far as the law is concerned I don’t think I’m “convicted” anymore at all. I really… Read more »

If you are still a registrant, then you are designated as a “convicted sex offender”. PC 290.5 removed all the benefits of 1203.4 from all registrants via PC 290.007, where it disregards you earning 1203.4. It makes no sense because the registry is disseminating information. PC 1203.4 provides three privileges or immunities: 1) the court shall set aside the verdict of guilty; 2) and, in either case, the court shall thereupon dismiss the accusations or information against the defendant and except as noted below, 3) he or she shall thereafter be released from all penalties and disabilities resulting from the… Read more »

@ JesusH I think you might have something here. PC 290 states your accusation/information is currently standing as you’re a part of the registry, but you earning the 1203.4 also states, “the court shall thereupon dismiss the accusations or information against the defendant.” There is a conflicting overlap between the two statutes. Both cannot be true. I wonder if this issue is something Janice can help or Janice can inform us that it has already been addressed. The courts and DA agreed that you are of low risk to deserve the immunities of 1203.4, but the registry signifies you are… Read more »

The Google Play app “Sex Offender Lookup” has some very interesting reviews. Seems the app tries to sell the data for a high price and then says it gets its information from a third party when it is incorrect.

Sorry everyone for a simple question… need some guidance on how to get court transcripts. If anyone has knowledge of how to get I would greatly appreciate the assist.

@Interested Party Don’t know what state you are from but here in PA (would assume it is the same everywhere) I wrote to the county of my conviction attention: Prothonotary (Clerk of Courts). Gave them my personal information about my conviction in that county and requested my court transcripts of my hearings etc. I was in state prison at the time so I received them for free. I believe there is a charge for them. Best to call the “Clerk of Courts” and request them. You will probably have to submit a request in writing. But they should let you… Read more »

The California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) goes into effect Jan 1, 2020 (in 3 weeks). The wording is similar to the European GDPR and includes provisions regarding the deletion of personal information collected by websites: https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa

I’m wondering if this could help registrants get information removed from third-party “registry” websites that attempt to commercialize personal information, such as OffenderWatch, Family WatchDog, HomeFacts, and so on. This new online privacy law could help registrants and their families in some specific areas.

@ Sunny: *Fingers crossed*

Oh, okay, yeah.
https://www.nepr.net/post/mass-bill-allow-first-time-dui-offenders-drive-could-make-progress-2020

So they continue to do what they are not supposed to do, so we’ll make it easier for them. Huh? 😒

Now the legislators can get back to creating new ways to ex post facto punish Registrants, right? 😠

You know I find it extremely puzzling that anyone, including any attorneys, can read the CA Harris decision and not see how it mirrors the notification elements of SORA. The CA SC would have to completely contradict and reverse if it held any different in a suit against SORA for the same reasons. Plaintiff has pleaded a right to association as well, ECF Nos. 1 at 14, which includes freedom of speech and association on the Internet in his First Amendment challenge and fears divulging his identity online for the exact reasons as stated in Doe v. Harris because he… Read more »

Vice did a nice three-part series on Ring and how it’s working with LE to create a surveillance network that is able to dodge the constitution. I know something along this line has been posted before (by @TS?), but part two of the series goes into some detail about how nefarious it all is. Though they don’t explicitly address it as such, Ring uses the Third Party Doctrine to hoard and possibly release videos to LE **even if you say no.** EVERYthing your Ring device captures is fair game for Ring’s use, including giving it to LE without a warrant… Read more »

@AJ

Yes, I shared the Ring stories earlier this year. They need to need be continually shared here as far as I’m concerned. People in this forum need to be aware.

Guess I am going to have to file in state as well. I bet I can get an immediate injunction as well as it moves thru the CA courts.

If the stated disabilities are the bar I see it being met many times over by SORA,

Seems as though CA SC has a problem with subjecting ” them to harassment, retaliation, and intimidation.”

Here’s a video I just came across that was put up 4 months ago. It was very interesting to watch. I don’t think he will be doing anymore “stings” anytime soon, if ever.

The Rise and Fall of Chris Hansen from “To Catch a Predator”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQfTy8XVJmI

@Janice- As we’re nearing the Tiered System in Ca I was wondering if and when you and your team will challenge the FTR 3yr penalty? I had an FTR 13 years ago because of a technicality. I had to take a felony charge and live another 3 years on probation being harassed by LE every month and had the clock reset for the 7yr background check when trying to find a job. Not to mention the 4 months I spent in jail waiting for a judgment and the marriage that deteriorated during the process… I feel I have paid my… Read more »

I live to see the day when the media runs this headline:

“The dark side of Megan’s Law – it’s more about money than you think.”

I’m working on getting my Certificate of Rehabilitation and was informed by the public defender’s office that the DA in Los Angeles is now upping their game when it comes to fighting to keep us on the registry. In many cases, they’re arguing against the CoR or they’re arguing that the person should not be relieved of the requirement to register…and their winning. I was also told this was prompted by the fact that the tiered registry is coming. As someone part of that group moved from Tier 1 to Tier 3 just before it was approved, I’m feeling pretty… Read more »

Dear td777

The PD may just be being careful from you having unrealistic hopes…he also may just be being honest.

HOWEVER, none of the above is cause for you to not seek a CoR, and for you to not put forth your best efforts in these regards…

Keep pressing for the CoR…with a friendly, but firm smile

Good Luck, James I

I just got my COR last week in LA Court working with Public Defenders office; Jane . I went for the first court date and the judge who was sitting on he bench is not Pro COR for SO so the PD set a new date. Then the DA informed that HE wanted a psych report (my crime was attempted molest from sting 664-288(a)) so I got a letter from a psychologist I has seen in the past…no good…wanted a formal report saying I was unlikely to re offend. Anyway got the COR …. BUT…was told I still have to… Read more »

It’s been well known that L.A. was a difficult County to get a CoR approved. You would be better off moving to another County and try it there.

That’s probably the case in every county. In Orange County or Riverside County, you can pretty much forget any chance of getting a CoR.

My bad, I was actually thinking of Orange County. I’m actually not as familiar with SoCo as I am in NoCal.

I live in Bay Area. I have a misdomeanor offense (CP) from 6 yrs ago. I saw that Amazon was flooding the area with job opportunities. I went to job fair, applied for a midnight warehouse job figuring it was a safe bet. After talking to a Rep for a few minutes, I was “offered” a higher position at a different location. I was told that I seemed to be a step above most applicants. I finished the process and left. I was stopped on the way out by the Rep and she thanked me for applying ( not exactly… Read more »

That’s a violation of the California Fair Chance Act. You have to be offered employment BEFORE they can start the background check. Even then, the prospective employer must evaluate whether the applicant should still receive the job in light of the severity of the crime, the nature of the crime, and the amount of time that has passed since conviction.

@ NPS SB 530 (pertaining to 1203.4) link: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/sen/sb_0501-0550/sb_530_bill_20131010_chaptered.htm Actually, employers can’t use any information sought against you in the employment process, according to SB 530, which was passed in 2014. The only exception to that rule? If you’re a registrant. (how sad) Read the analysis and see how registrants are not shared the equal opportunity to improve their lives like anyone else who earned the 1203.4. It’s shocking to read we’re second class citizens. SB 530, 1203.4 Bill analysis link: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/sen/sb_0501-0550/sb_530_cfa_20130422_094757_sen_comm.html In short, SB 530 created a disability within 1203.4 that extends to the hiring process, but that disability… Read more »

@ New Person,

Your analysis is incorrect with respect to SB 530. You are presuming that this law applies to all places of employment regardless of the field. That is not what SB 530 says.This is only for those seeking employment at a health care facility who will work with patients.

The law states that there is an exception where an employer at a health care facility can ask an applicant to disclose if they are 290 if that applicant is going to work directly with patients.

So tired: I understand where you’re at. I have been torpedoed out of several jobs, or not hired to begin with. For what it’s worth, here is my suggestion: Find something that you can do as a self-employed individual. That’s probably the only way. Especially if you’re looking to make actual, life-sustaining money. Be creative. There are lots of things that all of us can do, and earn a living with. You just need to find what fits for you. I have held a Class A driver’s license for many, many years. I can’t even do that anymore. Most truck… Read more »

I too am a class A license holder and I’ve definitely had one hell of a time finding gainful employment. I had to start off at a small company driving really old beater trucks hauling wood products and barely made more than min. wage with the hours I worked. I actually got lucky and moved up to a major for about half a year on a dedicated contract making fairly decent money until the contract was canceled and I was laid off. Took me awhile to find work again and was turned down by numerous companies, despite having 3+ yrs… Read more »

Since your’e offense is that old, it’s still eligible for the 1203.4 expungement (convictions in 2014 forward are not for this offense). This can’t be denied to you as long as all your fines are paid up and you haven’t had any issues while on supervision.

If your offense is a misdemeanor, then you shouldn’t even be on the Megan’s Law website. If you are, get that 1203.4 because it will remove you. Just be sure that your conviction date is on or BEFORE December 31, 2013 Just as an FYI: I, too, have an expunged misdemeanor and not (nor ever was) on the website. I have passed background checks related to employment and housing. Don’t get discouraged. Despite what Matt said, there are jobs out there that don’t do background checks. I, too, am in the Bay Area and only one potential employer conducted a… Read more »

You maybe right, So Tired, however, that is less than 10 working days ago. I would not jump ship just yet.

One of the big issues is potential perceived liability. Not sure if there is a way around that. Possibly if the threat of a discrimination lawsuit trumps the liability one….
If an employer is afraid, they will not take the chance. Similar to a landlord with laws being passed which shifts potential liability to them.

Liability is always an issue. I would bet 99.9% of attorneys would tell employers not to hire any felon or sex registrant.

Sorry to hear this, but consider it a blessing. Do you REALLY want to work in a menial job for less than you’re worth? Do you really want to fall into such a fricken’ trap? Man, for you and anyone else tired of getting canned or passed over for whatever reason, the time is now to start your own business and generate several other streams of income. This is not just advice for registrants who can’t find gainful employment. It’s for anyone who wants to have a life of financial freedom, enjoy life and have your adult diaper changed by… Read more »

As a follow up to my issue with Amazon, their third party background agency reported to amazon of my SO status, even though 6 yrs ago and misdomeanor (cp). I was applying for a midnight shift warehouse at their large merchandise location, doubt if too many women there. I was turned down. My therapist said , “ good! Why would you want that job.You want something better.” Her response told me she hasn’t a clue of the stress we are under just to survive. Sure I want something better, having a MS degree, but have been turned down multiple times… Read more »

Business insurance agents and companies do tell their clients to not hire people on the registry. I’ve seen it in person as one who was denied by that reason. Have the proof still.

This is 100% true. My sister is an executive with Church Mutual. They will drop any clients they uncover that hires sex offenders. They have three full time employees in their Merrill, WI office that do research on the employees of their clients to uncover felons of all types.

Please elaborate – you could not get business insurance because you’re on the registry?
I’m currently shopping for E & O insurance for my consultancy.
Looking forward to your response. Thanks!

@C

No, the company I interviewed with said they could not hire me because their insurer warned them that they could lose their business insurance if they did hire me, which is what they wanted to do. I have that in writing.

I’m sorry to hear that.

Using the sex offender registry as a weapon against combative family… I have an inlaw member who continually slams me on social media, I get screenshots sent to me by other people, I left social media earlier this year. She is very sweet to my face. I go to her property to pick up and drop off my direct relative. Since I am on her property a few times a week, I am thinking about adding her address to my annual registration. Even though I am on her property often, I do not overnight there. Has anyone done this? Sadly… Read more »

@Request Opinion…..Unfortunately, family doesn’t always act like family. I’ve been more fortunate than most in terms of my overall experience having to deal with the registry for 25+ years. The worst persecutions have come not from cops, teachers, principals, neighbors, or employers but from family members who attempt to use the already public registry to further shame me publicly. Unfortunately, this is just another consequence inflicted upon us by the registry. My (unsolicited) advice is to live your best exemplary life with integrity and try to force people to see past the “label”. That is what I’ve attempted to do… Read more »

@ Josh:. Excellent advice! 👍
“My (unsolicited) advice is to live your best exemplary life with integrity and try to force people to see past the ‘label’.”

I have learned that unless you already had a relationship or a family, you are in this on your own for your life. That is unless you want to drag someone you care about through a river if shit. Or if you want to continually be tossed away when the other has gotten fed up with their friends abondoning them because of you. I was ready to end it, but stopped short. I pulled over and texted my okd therapist and told them. The response was “ Oh Dear, that’s not good.” Accepting that your talents ( and many of… Read more »

Do you really want to escalate this? You would list this person’s address as a residence to go on the registry, a place where someone cares for your “direct relative?” Think this through – do you want the offending relative to be that much more involved and then get your “direct relative” involved, not to mention the police, too? You said you don’t even stay there. Would it be a crime to list that address as a residence? Use your head. If you need that relative for logistical help with other relatives (eg. picking kids up and watching them after… Read more »

So there’s more BS. Been calling the PD since Friday to schedule the appointment for my yearly. Have left messages and still nothing. I want to hurry up and get something scheduled so I can plan out the rest of my holiday break. Can’t do a thing until this appointment is setup. So damn frustrating. I think this whole thing is beyond ‘cruel and unusual’. It’s psychological torture being held hostage to just try and get the damn appointment scheduled. I mentioned in an earlier post about having your yearly centered on your birthday instead of your conviction date. That’s… Read more »

Cert of Rehab Question in California
I recently received a COR for a 664-288(a) offense in 2001. I have waited and worked for this in the attempt to get done with registration and off the Megan Site. I was told it would happen BUT, when I was in front of the judge and when I received the paperwork. They are demanding that I still have to do the annual registration. Can someone help me understand how and when this changed from the time others in here had received their COR
Thanks

Please read the comments at this link for more info:
https://all4consolaws.org/2013/04/certificate-of-rehabilitation/

With Census positions coming available here is a story about a sex offender that was hired but then was arrested for another charge… way to ruin it for everyone

https://www.govexec.com/management/2019/12/census-still-has-more-steps-take-ensure-it-doesnt-hire-more-child-sex-offenders-ig-says/161869/

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COR follow up I just read this and have some questions :
A Certificate of Rehabilitation (“COR”) is a California court-order declaring that a person previously convicted of a felony (or misdemeanor sex offense) is now rehabilitated. The purpose of the COR is to restore civil and political rights of citizenship to ex-felons who have proved their rehabilitation.
Does the restoration of my civil rights include not having to be a registered citizen??
Thanks for feedback and response

Yes.

Matt … your answer was short what should I do since I was told by the judge and paperwork I have to still register…my Public Defender has not offered any more assistance

@Mot, There are exceptions to the CoR. The plus side is you have the ability to have the Governor’s Pardon to relieve you of the duty. I did find a listing of which offenses that do not relieve you of the duty to register with the CoR: *** You will still be required to register pursuant to Penal Code Section 290 upon obtaining a Certificate of Rehabilitation under Penal Code Section 290.5 for any of the following convictions: Kidnapping under Section 207 or 209 committed with the intent to commit: – Rape (PC261); – Sodomy (PC286); – Lewd or lascivious… Read more »

The Supreme Court said on Monday that it would not hear a closely watched case City of Boise v. Martin on whether cities can make it a crime for homeless people to sleep outdoors. The case was brought by six people in Boise, Idaho, who said a pair of local laws violated the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. One prohibited “camping” in streets, parks and other public property. The other prohibited “lodging or sleeping” in any place, whether public or private, without the owner’s permission. A three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the… Read more »

To those that keep saying ‘“lead an exemplary life and show them”, I seem to recall another prrson that led that kind of life. He was hung on a cross and stabbed with spear. At least he could live within 1000 ft of a school.

Wow.

“Hey, I know! Let’s just dump all of our sex offenders into the snow this New Years!”

“SEX OFFENDERS TOLD TO MOVE OUT OF WAYSIDE CROSS MINISTRIES IN AURORA (outside Chicago, Illinois) ”

The mayor suddenly realizes that “sex offenders” exist. Decides they must leave by January.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMibWh0dHBzOi8vYWJjN2NoaWNhZ28uY29tLzE5LWNoaWxkLXNleC1vZmZlbmRlcnMtdG8tYmUtZXZpY3RlZC1mcm9tLXdheXNpZGUtY3Jvc3MtbWluaXN0cmllcy1pbi1hdXJvcmEvNTc2NDA5MC_SAXFodHRwczovL2FiYzdjaGljYWdvLmNvbS9hbXAvMTktY2hpbGQtc2V4LW9mZmVuZGVycy10by1iZS1ldmljdGVkLWZyb20td2F5c2lkZS1jcm9zcy1taW5pc3RyaWVzLWluLWF1cm9yYS81NzY0MDkwLw?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

🐘”Former (GOP) Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin on Thursday defended his controversial last-minute pardon of a man convicted of raping a 9-year-old, saying there was no physical evidence of her abuse.”
That’s it! I’m switching parties 🐎 and becoming a fundraising bundler for the Republicans! I’ll get my record wiped clean AND be appointed Ambassador to Wherever-I-Want! 🙄
Henceforth, I would appreciate you’re referring to me as “Mister Ambassador.” 😁

I don’t know why I am writing this here. I guess because I have no where and no one else. I have been looking for jobs to kerp me afloat for 4 yrs. No one will hire me. Even places that say they hire felons trun me down. I have depleted my savings to the point that I probably won’t be able to pay rent or bills for Jan. I have answered multiple ads for rooms, but that old registry thing keeps getting in the way. I thought I could somehow get back on my feet one day and live… Read more »

So tired…. I get it. We are slowly being tortured. It is cruel. We have much to rejoice for. 2019 brought us several court ordered improvements. There are huge changes coming. We have tipped the scales of justice in our favor. Pennsylvania and Michigan both are being forced to make changes. While I understand this does you no good in the short term, change is coming. Do not give up on the verge of the battle being won. These laws are unconstitutional and illegal. Hang in there my friend. Do NOT give in to the bastards. You are not alone.… Read more »

with about 890,000 remaining silent…smfh

…and we need to get them to speak up and energize them.

@ So Tired: Where are you located?

@So Tired. Where are you located. I am also looking for a job and have been turned down by many. AND lost my REALLY good job of 25 years because they “found out” But… please tell us where you are located.

Merry Christmas everyone.

I put a query out earlier on court opinion publishing stats and a related website that was shown here in the forum, but got no reply. However, today, I was able to find some stats of what I was looking for on this page: Federal Court Management Statistics, https://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/analysis-reports/federal-court-management-statistics I mention it because some cases take longer than others with no known reason, e.g. waiting for another case to finish since it was similar or the panel has not decided yet (in their prerogative). I would take some of the stats here with leeway considering there is all sorts of… Read more »

it would cost too much money for cops to collect the registration data. so they force the disfavored subclass to provide the data for free.

cert was denied in the piasecki case last november. registrants following SORNA requirements are “in custody” for habeas corpus purposes.

getting harder to deny that registrants are held in servitude for exploitation.

😠😠😠 Here is yet another reason why SORNA must be repealed/overturned/defeated! This unfortunate fellow was jailed simply for not having ID on him! Does this ever happen to anyone else??? Those on probation for DUI?: No! Those previously convicted of domestic violence?: No! Those previously convicted of any non-sexual offense felony?: No! 😡😡😡

Athens, ALABAMA: WHNT News 19: Sex offender arrested for not having identification during traffic stop in Athens.

https://whnt.com/2020/01/06/sex-offender-arrested-for-not-having-identification-during-traffic-stop-in-athens/

Alabama should be dissolved and most of its residents forced to move to crappy, third world, authoritarian cesspool countries where they will fit in better. What a bunch of scumbags.

I’ll be praying that this guy very significantly retaliates for this and that he harms a lot of Registry Nazis. Thoughts and prayers for all the scumbags.

Only corrupt, criminal regimes have $EX Offender Registries.

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