CA: Registration Procedures Vary Greatly at Local Law Enforcement Agencies

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Registration procedures currently vary greatly at local law enforcement agencies in the state of California.  While some agencies, such as the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), are remotely registering individuals by telephone, there are other agencies that continue to require individuals to register in person.

“It is difficult to understand why local law enforcement agencies continue to require individuals to register in person during a pandemic after issuance of both the Governor’s Executive Order and the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) Bulletin,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci.

Based upon information provided by registrants, ACSOL has sent letters demanding that five local law enforcement agencies stop in-person registrations and replace them with remote registrations consistent with both the Governor’s order and the DOJ bulletin.  The agencies include the Oakland Police Department, the San Francisco Police Department, the Riverside County Sheriff, the San Bernardino County Sheriff and the Lake County Sheriff.

Registration problems in the City of Oakland and the City of San Francisco have resulted in hundreds of people being listed as “in violation” for failure to register on the Megan’s Law website.  Many of the people listed as “in violation” were not allowed to register either remotely or in person.

The most recent registration problems involve the City of Long Beach that closed its registration office due to protests in that city.  At least two registrants have reported that their scheduled appointments to register were delayed for a week or longer.  The delays could result in their being listed as “in violation” for failure to register.

ACSOL requests that anyone who has recently experienced or is now experiencing a registration problem, report that problem to service@all4consolaws.org

 

 

 

 

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I can’t imagine how my registration is going to go this year. Fremont PD already has registration by appointment only. Last time, I waited 3.5 hours at night. I was the only person in the lobby. They already don’t allow any other person in the lobby save for registrants.
Oh and it took a week to get confirmation of an appointment to get one.

This was all w/o pandemic. The annual is going to be fun this year.

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2020/06/10/police-officers-personal-info-leaked-online/

Just saw this. Police are scared that their personal info leaked online (home address) will lead to personal attacks. We do this shit every year. Police are scared. How about us?

Thanks ACSOL for sending a letter to Lake County. I did not know if they were still doing in person registrations, so now I know. They do normally make appointments and have a somewhat private registration office, but I’d rather not be exposed to anyone unless I absolutely need to. I have several conditions that put me at high risk and I have been sheltering at home before it was mandatory. I only go out when I must for food supplies. Even the doctors here won’t do in person medical visits unless it’s an emergency room situation.

This should be forwarded to all of our local congress reps. Talk about hypocritical. So our safety is of no concern if it’s made public, but their’s is. Good times…..

Help! ~ I am soooo mad again. My fiancé did the phone registration last month, on time. It took about an hour. I don’t remember if they said he would have to come back for fingerprints, but I do know they said nothing about signing paperwork. And if that is needed, they need to contact him to come in and not knock on the door, announcing themselves as Sheriff’s department, with all our neighbors working from home. They did not wear gloves, I believe, and they had a clipboard, probably full of germs. This is again UNACCEPTABLE. Please advise on what you would do. I don’t want to complain until I have calmed down a bit.

Still venting! Here is what is wrong with this whole situation. CA governor Newsom signed Executive Order N-63-20 and the DOJ Information Bulletin was supposed to be issued to LEA for guidance on remote registration. Now, since we did the telephone registration, each page was read to us one by one and we were asked to acknowledge each and every bullet. At the end, the person who conducted the Interview signed everything on the Registrant’s behalf. This is all part of this order. I even called back afterwards to make sure, we are good to go, and we were told yes, and that my fiancé was now in compliance. So, there is NO NEED to have him sign the paperwork AGAIN! Especially not at our home since he is never obligated to answer the door or answer any questions, and much less SIGN anything. I was told this was the new OC policy, but when I asked what policy, I got no answer. Is there anything that overwrites the Executive Order or the Attorney General information bulletin? I wouldn’t think so. Granted, the executive order is only a recommendation, but if the Sheriff does not want to go by it, then they need to OPEN THEIR office for In-Person Registration and not make up their own rule that they now can come to the person’s residence to go over the SAME paperwork again and ask for fingerprints. Please, somebody tell me their take on this.

I registered in OC. Initially, the admin took the info and 2 months later, completed the process via the telephone. The telephone process was pretty easy and the woman signed on my behalf. They then emailed me the documents in a secure email, where I would be the only one to open it. I registered in LB as well. Very simple and I picked up the documents in person. I hope to be off the registry in 3 months via a COR in LA. Turn this negative into a positive

@ also in lake. Actually you make a lot of sense. Many times responses don’t get answered are sweep under the rug. Its like law enforce and congressmen are above the law. Today its a whole different culture with this AL thing whatever that is and this technology and this space race and all that money spent for nothing. Its as if people don’t care about sex offfender groups.

Now you tell me what s the sword of Justice? Its the word of God plain and simple. Sure I have black friends and other friends of different races but I’m not gonna ignore them and just pass them by. We all have hard times but I would rather confront a person face to face than do a telephone interview over the phone when talking about being on the registry Or should a dope dealer on probation do a phone interview with a police officer.

Protection is protection and and yes I do know that we all still have inalienable rights and also a right to be heard. Look at all the black congressmen and women speakng up about the presidents demeande. Some wish now they hadn’t voted for him but thats spilt milk and like he said once.. nobody tells me what to do.

Even my black friend has never heard a president ever say that. Sure my PO when we first met said for the next ten years, “I’m the man” and I said no your not and I don’t fear you and I also said just don’t ask me to bow down to you. Nothing wrong with checking in with one’s parole or probation or whatever the case may be as that does show respect but who respects the other one.. Doesn’t show love thy neighbor mean anything today.

When my old PO use to come to the house we has some pretty good conversations and sure I told him one time that he should of chosen his vocation wisely. About a month later he told me he didn’t like that but thats what it says in the bible as he didn’t seem like he had the character for it. I found out since his retirement he is still working for court services in another capacity. Guess he was tired of dealing with people on a one on one bases but he did mention I was different from some of the others but I’m sure he couldn’t specifically let down his guard.

Rules during this pandermic change and that brings pandimonium at times. Talking on the phone is like talking via a computer you never know who’s tapeing it and I’m sure they tape conversations. I’ve even said that to my PO. many times and he denies it. Things can go so far and we all have to take a stand in constructive ways. Authorities are slick, just like a spy plane on the Floyd protest trying to interceed. Trust goes a long way so who can one trust today ones cell mate or soul mate.

Thanks. The 1st time I attempted a COR, I almost received one. I filed it in LA this time.

Nondescript ~ I don’t recall which county you are in. What is the current procedure for registration where you are? I think, it should be remote by phone, e-mail, etc or in the office (not recommend with Covid-19), but NEVER at a person’s residence. That is complete invasion of privacy, especially since we already did the phone registration, which took an hour out of our busy lives. They think they can ask for fingerprints and signatures out in the field, not even wearing masks or gloves, or having any type of sanitary precautions in place. Even though, he is done with the registration, and if they really still need his fingerprints, they can make an appointment to have him come in once their office is back open. Not that we have to do that either, but if that’s the only way to get them off our backs, we’d be willing to sacrifice this one time. Someone has to be the bigger person. Their department employees don’t even know the rules and regulations and seem to read from a script every time. They completely ignored the Governor’s order and DOJ Bulletin I read to them.

I register in Anaheim and Diamond Bar and both are requiring me to do in person registration next week for my annual.

I kind of have difficulty understanding your issue. I initially did a phone update and I was informed (OC) I would have to come in. I received a call from one of the attendants (I’ve been in OC) and we scheduled an appt to register via telephone. Thereafter, she sent me a confirmation via email/copy of the registration. She signed on my behalf. I never (they already have them) had to submit additional finger prints. Furthermore, I’m kind of wondering. They take your finger prints via their automated system? So, if you have registered in Santa Ana (OC), can you explain what they asked?

Someone, we emailed each other. I’m beginning to think your a fake. Your emails and stories don’t make sense? Neighbors? OC initially had you call in and thereafter, they would call you back and set up an appointment to register via telephone! Thereafter, you would register your information/the attendant would sign on your behalf and they would subsequently email you the documents via email. When I registered in (dual registration) LB, they already had my fingerprints and I simply signed in person and I was on my way. Someone who cares is claiming to be the fiancé of a registrant and now informing us the police are coming to their house and requesting they let them in their home, take fingerprints and process the registration in home? Sorry guys, this person emailed me and I’m beginning to think they are a fraud and simply coming on this site to create havoc and hysteria. I stand by my comment. As soon (email) as I reached out to ask details, they disappeared. Be warned!

USA ~ Wow. I thought you were maybe a bitter person, but I still liked a few of your comments and did not care what others thought of you. I am sorry I e-mailed you now. It won’t happen again. I am not trying to instill hysteria obviously, and others have experienced the same scenario as myself. I won’t respond to you again on this forum or by e-mail. I had higher hopes for you and can usually accept other people for who they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I saw others attacking you. Lesson learned.

Guys, I’ll say it again. Someone emailed me and as soon as I asked for clarification/details, no response! There story makes no sense and I believe they are a fraud! Banging on doors? I’ve lived in OC for 20 plus years and it’s never happened. Furthermore, I asked in detail when registering via telephone the protocol. I think someone is a fraud and simply trying to create hysteria and panic.

I’ll be registering in long beach next week to my knowledge nothing has changed its still in person annual registration.
As for the cop’s coming to your house who cares you don’t have to answer your door and if they wanna talk to your neighbors big deal your neighbors most likely already know who you are and could careless. In my opinion people don’t even go on Megan’s Law Like they did when the internet first came out.
I remember when people couldn’t wait to jump online and search for sexofenders in they’re Neighbourhoods especially the soccer moms but now it’s so played out and over rated. The registry has grown so much that 4 out of 10 people has a friend or family member who are force to register.
It’s a total shitshow we can all see it falling apart why do you think they’re so focused tier 3 sexofenders so they can still get there funding from the government and still make the public feel safe with no backlash All they have to say is these people are the worst of the worst.
The United States government and the DOJ aren’t stupid if you combine the the number of sexofenders in the whole United States thats alot of people and when a nation of people are fed up thats when the marching and protesting starts and if you think the public is scared of sexofenders now imagine 1 million of them marching to the White House for their civil rights America’s head would spin clean off politician’s would have no choice but to negotiate.

@ AERO1. Actually you have something their. When captured by the enemy only give them your name rank and serio #. Yes I’m gonna miss my old probation officer but he was just only doing his job. And yes the last time he came to the house was before this whole pandermic started bac, in Dec or Jan can’t remember now. He’s the one that introduced me to this female lady that is suppose to be my new PO but now its a man. Strange but the courts remanded me into the custody of the PO’s.

As I mentioned I wanted to go to court on this but I was a bit upset about the whole situation. Sure much of this ordeal is a devilish and a bit satanic. I’ve alresady got a letter from the public attorney that says I’m not a SVP but I’m still in denial according to sex offender classes. Even the second time they wanted me to take classes again. They kicked me out and all agreed that it was do to Christianity after giving a boy a Christian view of all this in class. So the instructor agreed, the DA, and the PO.

One wonders whos’ a under sin today in these enticements or who is the tempter. And AERO you are right this registry is ready for a breakdown. While I will say their is right and wrong in everything its helping others that actually count. Here’s an article that may be of help to all those people worried about all this and actually makes meaning in many ways. I even believe Janice would be interested in this article. Once you get to the article scroll down just a bit and start reading.

https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

Learn to read details. Someone who cares emailed me and claims to be a registrants fiancé. In there comment, read the details: (Help! ~ I am soooo mad again. My fiancé did the phone registration last month, on time. It took about an hour. I don’t remember if they said he would have to come back for fingerprints, but I do know they said nothing about signing paperwork. And if that is needed, they need to contact him to come in and not knock on the door, announcing themselves as Sheriff’s department, with all our neighbors working from home. They did not wear gloves, I believe, and they had a clipboard, probably full of germs. This is again UNACCEPTABLE. Please advise on what you would do. I don’t want to complain until I have calmed down a bit.) They stated they don’t recall if they mentioned finger prints or needing a signature? Then, they Stated they didn’t wear gloves? Read the details? They will announce the Sheriffs Department? This person via our emails is lying, can’t get their facts straight and is attempting to create hysteria? Ie: I don’t recall? Who is registering? In Santa Ana, an attendant registers you and you never see an officer. Furthermore, I did the phone interview. It takes about 30 minutes, they sign for you, they don’t require fingerprints and they email you a copy! Notice how someone disappeared? I regret to inform you that I believe someone is a liar, wouldn’t respond to points of clarification via our emails and I believe they are on this site to antagonize, create hysteria and misguided information! The sad part is, they are bad liars. Read their comments: I mentioned I received copies of registering. They (alleged fiancé), I requested copies per their own words? I guess anyone can call down and request copies? Girlfriend? Fiancé? There comments make no sense and if you read the details, you can easily note the errors with their lying! Don’t participate in their delusions! They are creating hysteria amongst registrants and their families. Do officers now do fingerprints without the fingerprint machine? Maybe 2-3 officers along with (duh) a technician can randomly show up with the swat team to process your fingerprints and get a signature? How long would this take? How many registrants in OC? Maybe they can rent a Hertz truck, load the fingerprint machine onto the truck, plug it into a generator as well? I highly recommend you post my comment to bring the reality of this matter into the open
and bring some peace to registrants and their families. Thank you

Thanks Nondescript. Yes, it will definitely take some time for me to get to where you are, but I am working on it. PC290 is such a convoluted, lengthy and not very clear law, and I agree, whoever wrote it must be disturbed. This whole thing spiraled out of control so long ago, and I wished someone would have nipped it in the butt before it got this bad and just said WTF is this all about??? So many rights are violated in so many ways.

Note: my apology. The OC Detectives just showed up at my residence. I register in 2 locations. They (male and female) requested I sign the registration paperwork and give a thumbprint! They asked if we could do this someplace (they won’t enter my home/I said nothing!). I signed and initialed the paperwork and gave 3 thumbprints! They couldn’t believe I did this in my front yard. Badges out/undercover out front. I did the paperwork on a car and walked in! They couldn’t believe I wouldn’t let them in. They went outside and clearly had boxes of registrants files and yes, they will visit you in OC. Came at 8:30am. No phone call! Kind of rude. Neighbors may have seen me, but I could be filing a complaint? Applying for a job? I don’t care and hope this will be done soon!

Ha ~ Funny, when I talked about our “compliance check”, USA did not believe me and thought I was instilling hysteria and I was a fake. So, maybe now USA knows that these things are indeed happening, especially with Covid 19. I might elaborate at a later time how our situation turned out.

I’m wondering what if I had said, come back wearing masks? Or, is this covid free? Please leave my property! I had a copy of the receipt? Make an appointment? I can’t sign unless I know this is covid free? How do I know? AJ, grow up. Someone, your response to my apology tells me what you are. I should have asked them to leave my property! I had a signed copy of my registration! They are requesting you co sign after the technician and initial and give 2-3 thumbprints! The lady detective couldn’t believe I prohibited her from entering my home! I was in shock they showed up, badges exposed! I came out, grabbed their folder, placed it on the hood of the car and they where gone in 3 mins and I walked back in! Someone, I retract my apology. Your not a registrant, yet you troll this site like some victim. Personally, I wasn’t and won’t act scared. When I offered to come out and sign on the car, you should have seen her face! I imagine most individuals are afraid and invite them in! If I wasn’t in the process of a COR, they wouldn’t have received a thumbprint or signature! You need to know when to bite your lip! Ie: I can’t come outside? You can’t come in? I have covid? Call and make an appointment? I don’t have to sign! Wear a mask? I’m afraid to touch this? Is it covid free? Bring it back after covid? Sorry, I can’t be exposed? We have a troll on this site! Someone, get a job! Or, you can only come in if you wear a hazmat suit? Or, can I take your temp? I can’t even imagine how many roadblocks these detectives are having? What if I’m traveling? Cruise? It’s probably a nightmare. Someone, go somewhere else! AJ, I think it’s best you avoid calling others names to detract from your bad behavior. I posted my comment with the hope of helping others. Your demeanor clearly demonstrates your education level and I truly suggest you change both your outlook and I would avoid calling anyone names, until you look in the mirror. I wish all the best and hope this will pass after Dec! Best of luck OC!

I guess I should’ve called someone a “troll” instead of a “freak.” Apparently “troll” isn’t name calling. With that in mind, I retract my previous question and now ask, “how many thumbs does this troll have?”

From the original “Running Scared”(1986):

Anna : You can’t be a kid your whole life, you’re gonna have to grow up!

Danny Costanzo : Why? I don’t like grown ups.

I typically don’t participate in silly social media or sink to anyone’s level to justify myself or my opinions.
USA never apologized to me personally, and I simply replied that I was being called a liar, a troll, a fake and probably other things. An apology was nice but does not take back the cruel words. So, if stating my opinion or my disappointment shows who I am, yes it does! A person who felt attacked for no reason at all. Here is how USA should have responded: “Someone, I apologize for not believing your story. Now that this happened to me pretty much the way you described it, I realized you are not a fake”. But in any case, I gave USA the benefit, but I only give people the benefit once. How USA responded to the the deputies was his choice. I would have had a better solution for him based on my own experience, but my opinion fell on deaf ears. Of course, I am real and not a troll, and I think everyone on this forum know this, including Janice, who I spoke to a few times by phone and e-mail. I don’t want to elaborate on our experience, but all I can say is: Know your rights and don’t EVER do anything you are not required to do. It worked for us.

Someone, your comments are both alarming and thought provoking! I would have? I’ve spoken to Janice many times? I gave USA the benefit? Your not even on the registry and your provoking anxiety amongst many who are too afraid to join these toxic individuals you enjoy trying to put others down and avoid addressing issues. That’s called being manipulative. You would have stated something else? You clearly must think highly about yourself. I read between the lines and we have 3 people on this site. Those who truly mean well and seek help and answers! Those who have control issues and attack those with different opinions! Then, we have (they typically fall into child related crimes) those who act childish, grab onto comments and call others names in the hope of feeling powerful and free for that one second. Yet, you must spend every waking hour on this site with the hope of? Rather then provide insight or clear answers to this dilemma, your in hysteria. I’ve had my charge reduced to a misdemeanor and expunged! I have a court date for a COR! LA is very liberal and my chances are excellent! After looking at the updates and comments, I’ve concluded that many of you enjoy being on this site. Very sad. Much of the info is very informative, but a select few ruin it for the silent majority. Janice, thank you! I wish everyone all the luck, but I find this site becoming increasingly toxic and I feel moving forward it no longer serves me purpose as I move towards getting my life back! Cheers