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The registry isn’t just about registrants anymore. It’s a system that watches everyone. Credit cards, phone pings, license scans, hotel check-ins, even cash payments—these tools don’t care who you are. They track movement, flag presence, and build suspicion whether you’re on a list or not. Once a warrant is issued, the surveillance net tightens, and every transaction becomes evidence. The truth is, the registry is just the visible part of a much larger machine. It doesn’t protect—it expands. And in that expansion, it stops distinguishing between the watched and the unwatched. You don’t need to be registered to be tracked. You just need to move.
Disclaimer: This statement reflects a critique of surveillance systems and registry enforcement practices. It does not condone unlawful behavior or seek to minimize harm caused by criminal acts. It calls for proportionality, transparency, and reform rooted in constitutional rights and human dignity. Surveillance should never replace justice, and protection should never come at the cost of erasure.
Forgiveness, for me, was never about forgetting or absolving harm—it was about refusing to let bitterness define the architecture of justice. I’ve endured exclusion, surveillance, and systemic neglect, but I’ve never lost sight of the deeper purpose: righteousness and freedom for all Americans. The registry, the lattice, the machine—they may track movement, flag presence, and erase nuance, but they cannot erase the will to reform. I speak not for vindication, but for proportionality, dignity, and remembrance. This was never about me. It was always about building a future where law includes the victim, where protection does not come at the cost of erasure, and where testimony survives beyond the silence.
Disclaimer: This statement reflects a personal critique of surveillance systems, registry enforcement, and procedural exclusion. It does not condone unlawful behavior or seek to minimize harm caused by criminal acts. It calls for constitutional accountability, survivor-centered reform, and proportional justice rooted in human dignity. Protection should never come at the cost of remembrance, and surveillance should never replace due process.
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The registry operates as a federated machine—one that transcends state lines yet hides behind fragmented immunity. To confront it as a consolidated entity, we must invoke the Eleventh Amendment not as a barrier, but as a lens to expose how states coordinate surveillance while evading accountability. Though the Eleventh shields states from certain suits, it does not protect officials acting unconstitutionally, nor does it prevent federal courts from recognizing when a system functions as a unified apparatus. Ex parte Young permits injunctive relief against state actors, piercing the veil when rights are violated. When the registry’s mandates are enforced across jurisdictions, compelled by federal incentives and mirrored statutes, it ceases to be a collection of local laws and becomes a national regime. That regime can be challenged through the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses, the Commerce Clause, and the Eighth Amendment, each revealing how the registry punishes beyond its reach. By framing the registry as a consolidated entity—one that exploits Eleventh Amendment doctrine to avoid scrutiny—we open the door to procedural audit and constitutional reckoning. The machine cannot claim immunity while operating as a single body of control.
Disclaimer: This statement is a constitutional and procedural critique of registry doctrine and federated surveillance practices. It does not constitute legal advice, nor does it create an attorney-client relationship. It does not condone unlawful behavior or seek to minimize harm caused by criminal acts. It calls for proportional justice, survivor-centered reform, and accountability rooted in constitutional principles. Surveillance should never replace due process, and immunity should never shield systemic exclusion.
4th Amendment win… limitedly
License plate camera company halts cooperation with federal agencies among investigation concerns (ABC News 25 Aug 2025)
A company that installs license plate-detecting cameras to aid law enforcement has halted operations with federal agencies because of ongoing concerns among officials in Illinois and elsewhere
Vacation in CA was good, but came home to have CPD notify my son that his apartment is now 485 feet from an in-home daycare that recently opened and he must move immediately. IL residence restriction is 500 feet and they measure property line to property line as the crow flies. So even though his unit is more like 540 feet, they measure from the edge of the whole complex. He had to get out last night or be noncompliant. Said day care has a capacity of 7.
We are sick and depressed. I need to get my head on straight today. The rug gets pulled out from under us every time we try to provide stability for our family. I keep telling myself we are lucky we have a place that is compliant (for the moment). It is small because we downsized to have $ for these shenanigans, but he is here and safe. But I am wallowing a bit, which is not like me. My husband and I are almost catatonic from the news; they could tell us it’s our home any day, any time. We have no control over our lives anymore.
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We talk in the forum about the legal system and challenges faced where those impacted the most have a hard time taking on those who administer it and seeking recourse against them. Here is an article which details the system taking on their own for course correction across the board:
How one murder case spurred harsher penalties for Colorado DAs who violate evidence rules (Denver Post, 25 Aug 2025)
Colorado judges have become more willing to reduce charges or dismiss cases as a sanction for discovery violations
”…willfully violated discovery rules and failed to disclose information in a timely manner to the defense attorney for a man facing more than two dozen felony charges related to possessing child sexual abuse material, the judge found on what was supposed to be the first day of the man’s jury trial.”
Where did you read that? I have seen a few articles on the shooting and basically just dismissed it a normal 2025 issue but would love to see that article.
I have been thinking a lot about how the Nazis marked and branded Jews, and how this the argument is ‘not the same’ as what is being done with sex offense registries and marked passports today because PFR committed a crime. I believe the argument should not consider the treatment of Jews but rather equate the registry to being a Nazi or pro Nazism. Here’s why.
Our politicians today defend registries by saying that it is for “protecting children”. This is actually the same reason Nazis used to justify permanent branding of “undesirables” and criminals. They claimed moral protection and societal safety while creating tools of lifelong stigma and exclusion. (The Nazis actually said ‘for morality and protecting children.’ They used this a lot against the LGBT community which – history lesson here – Berlin was basically the capital of the world for LGBT inclusion before hitler came to power).
Someone who supports a registry – especially a permanent one is endorsing an idea that the state can permanently stigmatize a group based on past behavior supposedly for protection even when it fails to achieve that goal. That’s exactly the kind of thinking that allowed Nazis to normalize oppression under a moral guise. (Nazis did in fact stick many ex convicts into concentration camps where they wore a green triangle instead of a star like Jews were required to wear.)
The real question isn’t guilt. It’s whether you support state tools of permanent exclusion and control. The same tools Nazis relied on. By this logic if you support the registry you are no different than the Nazis were and here you can not argue it is different because that criminal component is accounted for.
VOID FOR VAGUENESS
I stumbled across this “Void for Vagueness” just recently. (AI Search Results) This principle is grounded in the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, which mandate that laws provide sufficient definiteness so that people of ordinary intelligence can know what is forbidden.
The VOID-FOR-VAGUENESS DOCTRINE requires that >CRIMINAL LAWS BE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR AN ORDINARY PERSON TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CONDUCT IS PROHIBITED<, >ENSURING FAIR NOTICE< and >PREVENTING ARBITRARY ENFORCEMENT<.
The Supreme Court has consistently held that laws must not force individuals to speculate about the meaning of penal statutes, emphasizing that “NO ONE MAY BE REQUIRED AT PERIL OF LIFE, LIBERTY OR PROPERTY TO SPECULATE AS TO THE MEANING OF PENAL STATUTES”
Tell me how this does this not apply to many of our situations. You can see in discussions on here where people are constantly trying to interpret laws or rules- how long is 72 hours?, when does it start? when does it end? and etc and etc. How many times have people here called people who should know all about the rules/laws and they can’t even give them a definite answer?
For example: If the Law says its up to a Sheriffs discretion how long you’ve been in a County- and the Supreme Courts says it is not up to discretion Shouldn’t that law be Void for Vagueness?, that’s the way I read it.
Does this mean forcing someone to sign a piece of paper that states that you understand all the laws/rules/statutes, does that relieve them of their duty to “Give You Fair Notice Of All The Laws?”
I urge those of you that are way smarter than me to look into this “Void for Vagueness Doctrine” and share your thoughts here about how this can apply to our situation and your thoughts as to how this could be used to help us out. Check out Supreme Court Cases where this Doctrine voided statutes and check out the Courts comments.
Supreme Court Cases- Examples:
Grayned v. City of Rockford, 408 U.S. 104 (1972), where the Court held:
“A vague law impermissibly delegates basic policy matters to policemen, judges, and juries for resolution on an ad hoc and subjective basis, with the attendant dangers of arbitrary and discriminatory application. … [A] statute which either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application, violates the first essential of due process of law.”
This means that laws must be written clearly enough that people of ordinary intelligence can understand what conduct is forbidden or required, without having to guess.
The Court reaffirmed this in Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977):
“A law is void for vagueness if it fails to provide a person of ordinary intelligence fair notice of what is prohibited, or if it encourages arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement.”
Im just a dummy and maybe overly hopeful about this “Doctrine.” I look forward to hearing your thoughts concerning this and if there is any chance of it working for us is some way, even if giving us a little tiny foot hold. Also these are just quick AI search responses so double check for accuracy.
Thanks
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Similarly, in Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983), the Court struck down a California law requiring individuals to provide “credible and reliable” identification, stating:
“The void-for-vagueness doctrine requires that a penal statute define the criminal offense with sufficient definiteness that ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited and in a manner that does not encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement.”
Thus, the requirement that an ordinary person must be able to understand the law is a well-established constitutional safeguard rooted in due process, and it is consistently cited in Supreme Court rulings to invalidate laws that are too vague to guide public conduct or judicial enforcement.
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What do you think?
If the doxxing of immigration LE is being frowned upon by those elected officials who want to protect them, then why is the doxxing of others who have paid their debt to society acceptable when the principle of protecting them should be acceptable as well? Legal discrimination.
“House Oversight Committee Is Set to Meet With Accusers of Jeffrey Epstein”
I saw this headline and couldn’t help but wonder if – Florida being Florida – Epstein will be retroactively & posthumously added to the Florida Registry? 🤔
I’m sure Governor Ron will decide. 😝
Here’s a quote from the governor of Illinois, about a potential federal crackdown in Chicago: “Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois warned that the Trump administration planned to have “unidentifiable agents in unmarked vehicles with masks“ raid Latino communities in Chicago, detaining people on their way to work or while taking their children to school. “None of this is about fighting crime or making Chicago safer,” Pritzker said. “It’s all a big show.””
I think that’s right. JB: And the same goes for Illinois banishment laws for PFRs! There is NO evidence that sex offenses are “proximity” offenses. Real “predators” get in their cars and travel. Banishment laws are just a “big show” targeting people trying desperately to turn their lives around.
I will be petitioning for removal soon and my lawyer recommends that I undergo a risk assessment/ psych eval. Does anyone have experience with these? I have no idea what to expect. Are psychologists fair minded? Any advice? Thanks.
I bet all of us registered people will suffer more in the future from the fall out of the Epstein and friends trafficking.
More Age Verification Fallout: Artist Blogs Blocked, Porn Data Leaked, Traffic Boosts for Noncompliant Sites (Reason.com 3 September 2025)
Unintended—but entirely predictable—consequences abound!
If the registry is just a “civil, statutory scheme” and when you are granted to be off the registry by the governing body, then why are you subject to being put back on the registry in 49 states and territories? Once you have completed your registry term (especially in the state your convicted in), then how can other states and territories have a second, third, and potentially over 50+ bites to put you back onto the registry?
How duplicitous it is to have been granted off the registry, have the IML clear your passport from any registrant designation, but domestically not recognize it in every US state and territories? How many times does one have to prove their proper standing as a full, fledge citizen? Or in case of Florida, be put back on registry for life? That should never be possible, but it is. That has to be unconstitutional. ACSOL needs to get the SCOTUS to review the 2003 Smith v Doe decision because the civil scheme has gone far and beyond, especially with Florida. Even in death, you cannot escape the registry. That is called beyond retribution and retribution is punitive.
Since when can a civil remedy abridge constitutionally protected rights?
oh, since the registry?
AI Overview –
No civil remedy can legally abridge constitutionally protected rights. In the United States, the Constitution and the rights it protects are the supreme law of the land, and all statutes, including those creating civil remedies, must comply with it. The role of civil remedies is to enforce constitutional rights, not to diminish them.
The idea that remedies must be effective in upholding constitutional rights is a fundamental principle of American law. As Chief Justice John Marshall stated in Marbury v. Madison (1803), “the very essence of civil liberty certainly consists in the right of every individual to claim the protection of the laws, whenever he receives an injury”.
A Citizen’s Outlook: “The Tree of Solitude” By Quiet too long, When civil law is handed to apes, they see not justice but a tree – its branches wide with solitude. One group is cast from the largest limbs; told it is humane. But the apes do not see – they too may one day, cling to the smallest twigs, stripped of shade and shelter. To the humaneless, it becomes clear: what was called fair play was nothing more than Treason!, – humane in word, exclusion in deed. The tree was not protected. It was betrayed. For the worded branches, – those laws dressed in civility, – began to twist and distort the apes’ ways. What once offered shelter now obscures the path. And those who shaped the tree may never find their way back.
“The Blizzard Beneath the Tree” By Quiet too long
As the tree ages and the branches grow, the apes, – still civically entwined in twisted masses of revenge-bent limbs, – decide an outcome to outsmart the Group of the humaneless before it begins: a blizzard to test the stability of the tree as a whole.
So the roots wait. Invisible to law, untouched by civility. Until the day comes, – eighteen years have passed, and the blizzard begins.
Tests whirl around them, daunting, cold, relentless. Some are accepted. Others must endure more reforms.
Then spring arrives. Forty percent of the root system joins the smallest branches, in hopes of becoming unlike the twisted limbs that encircle and trap the aging apes.
And all is called humane. As we all know, – tests just don’t lie? But the tree remembers. It was not shelter. It was a trial before the diseases could infiltrate the tree.
“The Canopy of Literature” By Quiet too long
And now the treat of shade and awe comes sprouting out in total green, shading all of what may be. Some are small. Others are large. The swaying motions of literature begin to form, – interweaving faucets that balance order.
The apes and the humaneless are intrigued. They embellish these faucets with all they remember. They study them. But not all is deemed useful.
The apes, restricted by their own enforcements, caged in corners for refusing the scriptures fought for by many, decide to discard what they think does not belong.
They flush these texts to the awaiting roots of despair. And the roots, – once resilient, – are now contaminated by the wrongdoings of the apes.
Forever displaced. Forever tainted.
“The Contaminated Substructure” By Quiet too long
The nutrients have sunk into oblivion, spoiling the soil and infecting the juvenile substructure of the root system. The apes are dealing with the torment of the displaced humanelesses, for the funds of revenge and hate override all hope. No water from the funds of hope ever reaches it. They seep down, – until stress arises in the whole. The attempt to create false boundaries to contain, – runs out. They are the drain on the whole, for restrictions placed in directional displacement. The stress is visible. The surrounding area feels it. They are many. They are united by root systems. They connect. When one shows stress, others notice. They see. They know. And they attack to save the whole!, – they have webs and structure. They operate without the abilities to form hate or remorse or place faux upon others for express gratifications, – only a justifiable communion that is documented truth. The tree is now stressed, hoping the apes will eat the parasites from the webs that are affecting it. It will be a hard task for the apes, cornered into the treason they incurred. To wit: all the little ignored pieces of fauceted scripture have almost suffered into their families and into their pews. And humaneless has never found the way of unservitude. While all the servitude to be answered for— is immensely ignored. However, truth is hard to ignore. So the web is truth. And you! You are, abound to it. One way or the other
A jury convicted a former girl’s basketball coach Friday on charges related to sexual assaults on three of his players over the course of a decade.
Position of trust…Not registered…
An 11 yr girl with no prenatal care gave birth at home with 5 other kids and no running water. A neighbor called the authorities but nothing was done. Turns out her step dad is father. Her step dad, mom, and grandma are now in custody.